State of Nebrasketball

[brfrad]

 

 

 

1. We don't know the situation with Hilliard. You don't either. Maybe he wasn't buying into Miles system. Maybe, it was a mutual decision. Hilliard wasn't going to get much playing time.

 

I can drive down to SF and ask him it is only 60 minutes away. What we do know is disturbing.

 

 

While your down there, maybe you could ask him why he hasn't played since November 30th?  I haven't found any mention of an injury or anything that would keep him out of action.

[bobcat402]

i wonder what Icedragon's opinion on pennants in basements, and a certain nighttime Lincoln park dweller...just saying.

[icedragon101]

1. Most coaches do some house cleaning when they come aboard especially when taking over as horrible team as we had.

If he's a user then explain why David Rivers is still here?

Rivers has talent and does not cause problems.  Now if i remember correctly there was an article on Rivers called "Odd man out".  Miles did not start Rivers until he was forced to because of a loosing streak. 

2. You like the scheduling and yet you don't?!?

I like the attitude, but the schedule give up to much control.  the SCC gave up to much control to other, they dictate our fate.

He upgraded our schedule during the non-conference and it is paying off now.

there is no question we are playing a better non-con, no debate,  the question is weather it is helping or hurting us.  Exactly how is it paying off now???

3. Rather than going to a tournament that wouldn't have helped us one bit it was decided to focus on recruiting. 

This is debatable,  Exactly how would have going to a tournament hurt us???  We play more game, get more expouser, it helps with recuriting and help our player get noticed and Miles had a chance to get more wins and it boost the morale of the fan base.   Exactly what is the Downside??  How did not going to tournament help us in recruiting?????

4. Miles was put in a bad situation here and that's all I'm going to say about this subject as it's already been discussed.

He knew what he was getting into when he got here.

 

We've been a horrible basketball team for more than a decade now

I am sorry to burst your bubble, but somebody has to say it.  Do you really want to wait another 2 years to make the NIT?  That is what happened under Barry.  it was 4 years under him before we made post season.  That cannot happen under Miles.   You seem to think I have some great pull under Miles and he will actually listen to me.  Answer me this what damage have I done to Miles or the program by posting my concerns?  None as far a I have see.  I care about this program too. I want them to be successful, BUT I see red flags,  maybe it is something maybe it is nothing, but that is what I see. Sorry i can't jump on the band wagon yet.   I take a Sober approach, not an Idealistic appoach.  I want results.  I will grade Miles on results, not what might happen, not on possiblities or hope, but results.  Right now he has not gotten any results worth mentioning.  Sorry you prove other wise. 

 

 

[icedragon101]

im only going to address one point from icedragons post

 

2. regarding the Classic tournament, when Miles schedules the tournament, he has no idea, how skewed the officiating will be, if those games are played last year under the old rules, or in January or February, where the refs and the players have a rough idea of what the game should look like, i think the outcomes are greatly different, plus ill take a few losses over good competition than 4 wins of directional state, and sisters of the poor a&m

That is a cop out.  we weren't going to win that tournament.  It was the wrong tourney for this team. 

[icedragon101]

You mean to tell me wins over Alcorn State and Denver wouldn't impress the NCAA selection panel if we found ourselves in the discussion?

Are you one of those who actually believes we are going to make the NCAA any time soon???  Do you actually think we  will go this year or next year or the year after that?

 

 

Of course...non-conference SOS means diddly squat to the selection panel....right? 

Non-cons on mean something to the NCAA selection if we actually have enough wins to quallify.  Do we have enough wins to quallify?  NOPE, so take that idea and throw it far away from you and start viewing Nebraska basketball for what it is not what you want, hope and believe it to be. 

As hard as it may be...I've found it best to just not reply to Icedragon's opinions as they are very far out there.

I know how hard it is for you to believe, but I am right and your personal attacks just prove it.  You are scarde of the truth. You have not made 1 reasoned argument.  I

 

[bobcat402]

 

im only going to address one point from icedragons post

 

2. regarding the Classic tournament, when Miles schedules the tournament, he has no idea, how skewed the officiating will be, if those games are played last year under the old rules, or in January or February, where the refs and the players have a rough idea of what the game should look like, i think the outcomes are greatly different, plus ill take a few losses over good competition than 4 wins of directional state, and sisters of the poor a&m

That is a cop out.  we weren't going to win that tournament.  It was the wrong tourney for this team. 

 

how is it a cop out? the entire landscape of college basketball was affected for the first two months due to the changes, the game UMASS last 3 hours for goodness sake, there was 90 combined fouls, 6 of are ten players available had either 4 fouls or fouled out in the course of that game, the UAB game wasnt any better.

[icedragon101]

I think many people misunderstand what I think the SCC was a failer.  let me explain,  the Non-con is the one part of the schedual we can control ,  If we go to the Sunbank classic, we could have possibly won the torunament,  With this team we had a legitimate shot.  Win a tournement and that says something. Now maybe it would not be against the  same level of talent as the SCC, but we would have won and then we could have scheduled some of SCC team to come to Lincoln, UAB and Gerogia at PBA any one?  control is the issue. If you don't think this is worth considering,  Just look at Wichata St.  look at their non-con  it is not a stellar resume and look at where they sit.  I am not saying that we should play only people in the 300+ range that won't do it, but playing teams in the top 25 when we know we can't beat them dosen't help either.  We can get the same RPI and SOS by schedule by doing things differrently.  Let me show you ,  Here is what I propose.  

 

1.  Floridia gulf coast
2. Georgia 
3.  Alcorn state

4. UTEP
5.  UAB
6.  Arkansas St 
7.  Tulane 
8.  Drake

9.  Miami
10. Valpo
11.  TCU
12. Rhode Island 
13. USC 

14. Wyoming

 

[icedragon101]

that is a schedule tha works for us, achieves a decent RPI and SOS and dosnent' kick our Butt's

[icedragon101]

how is it a cop out? the entire landscape of college basketball was affected for the first two months due to the changes, the game UMASS last 3 hours for goodness sake, there was 90 combined fouls, 6 of are ten players available had either 4 fouls or fouled out in the course of that game, the UAB game wasnt any better.

  You are not controlling the circumstances.  Miles put himself and the team in that situation.  Sure there were bad calls not going to deny that, but he choose that situation.  You can control only what you can control. 

 

[royalfan]

Icedragon101>Tim Miles at RPI manipulation strategy

[icedragon101]

it may not sound like it but I want Nebraska to win and I want Miles to be a success. Really I do

[icedragon101]

Icedragon101>Tim Miles at RPI manipulation strategy

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[Concrete]

"Just look at Wichata St.  look at their non-con  it is not a stellar resume and look at where they sit"

 

This will hopefully be my first and last post in this thread, but I have to say that is not a valid point right now.  Yes, Wichita State is undefeated and ranked in the top 4, but if they were to lose even 1 game their ranking/seeding will plummet because their non-con is "not..stellar".  Even if they finish undefeated, they still may not get a 1 seed.

[Norm Peterson]

Mistakes Miles has made

 

1.  The dismissal of Corey Hillard - Hillard was accused of stealing a cell phone.  Charges would be later dropped as he was found to not even be involved in the incident.  Why is this a problem. 1.  The false accusation made against him could have wrecked his life.  It says Miles will not allow due process & he will not stand by his players.  Bad sign for an one coming in.  2.  It is possible Miles was looking at a potential extra scholarship spot, I could get more of MY guy's in MY System.  Hillard was a Sadler guy and that was most likely what did him in.  Miles showed that he was not concerned with the well being of the student.   He will throw you a way in a heart beat if he thinks it will effect him or he can get a better deal. TIM IS A USER.  NOT A GOOD SIGN.

 

2.  The scheduling of the Charleston Classic was a big mistake.  This is a classic case of they eyes are bigger then the stomach syndrome.  I like that Miles is willing to take on name brands school. That speaks well of his attitude, fearless.  I like it.  But TIM styles himself "An Advanced Stats Guy". What do the Stats say.  They say we got our butt kicked.  I am betting right about now Tim wishes he had those 4 win back.  Don't get me wrong.  I like that Tim has the Cojones to play some decent teams, but Tim   should have gone back to the Sun Bank Classic.  We could have won that and he could have then brought UAB and Georgia in to play at PBA.  Wouldn't that have been nice to see. For us the Non-con defines the season, 11 or more wins are required in the non-con, preferably 13 or 14.

 

3.  Not accepting a tournament offer.   BIG BIG,BIG BIG mistake.  Tim had a chance to play, get exposure on TV and play some decent  teams and passed it up.   The team deserved to play, and we fans deserved to play and Tim deserved to play  Who cares if it was not the NIT or NCAA.  TIM you does not get that this is Nebrasketball, not Kansas or Duke.  We play in the Big 10 not the MW.  We play in one of the hardest leagues in the country and we deserve something.  CIT or CBI it does not matter to us.  Put your ego aside Tim. Take any tournament, we can build off of that. Here is a hint:  Pick the one where we can get the most wins.   There are over a 120 slots for tournament play.  If you don't make tournament this year, it is on you and you only Tim.

 

4. Deverell Biggs.  I want to reserve judgement on this on for now.  It is too early to tell if this was the right decision or not.  If we make tournament play it was, we can second guess later.  I will say that I have seen a propensity to be a dictator and come down hard on guys.  You mess up under Tim and boy it is over for you.  Maybe that is the case with DB.  He got on Miles Bad side and was never same after that.  

Icedraggon, can't believe I'm getting draged into this, but here goes ...

 

1.  The dismal of Correy Hilliard.  Where do you get the information that he wasn't involved?  In the cell phone.  And what makes you think that was the ony think he did wrong  He had two thinks he did wrong and got in trouble with polise but you just heared one.  So Miles had no choise in the mater.  Correy had too go.  If Miles just wanted to cleer space on his rooster, why din't he just get rid of David Rivers to? 

 

2.  Scheduling the Charleston Classic.  I agree this was bade because playing good teams a the Charleston classic helped our rpi and make us look better now since we didn't win all the games.  but beat Georgia and lossed to Massachuets.  So really that helped are rpi now but that only helps if we make the dance or the INT.  So if we win few more games then that was good that we went at Charletson because it helps our SOS but if we don't win few more games then we don't have to make NCAAs and then that's bad.  So that's bad because we could have won better against badder teams and give us a good record that has bad SOS all over it.  So maybe it was good going to charletson.

 

3.  Not excepting trounemant offer.  Well, you half to remember it was not the same team last year that it is this year.  If we had went to trounement like CIB lsat year its Ubel playing and we play 7 guys and the only guys coming back from that group were benny Parker and Rivers and Ray and the tall guy who doesn't play to much.  And shavon.  Shields.  So it probably doesn't help to much that we play in a trouenemtn last yaer  If we could have played last year with Petway and Pitchford and Tai and al the knew guys, then playing in CIB would have been gooder than not but since we didn't have them I guess not.

 

4.  Deverell Biggs.  You want to reserve judgment?  REally?  Why?  You already said it was wrong to dismiss Hillyerd but not Biggs?  Hillyard didn't do anything for us He just played few minutes frehman year. but Biggs scored points and so he ment something on this team.  If Miles didn't have reason to dimiss Hilyerd (2 criminal complaints) then why could he dismiss Biggs who only had one that he was given more hcnance after that.  Makes no since.  I think miles shuld have dimissed both Hillyard and Biggs because he was right to do it.  And thay did wrong stuff to so they should go.

[icedragon101]

"Just look at Wichata St.  look at their non-con  it is not a stellar resume and look at where they sit"

 

This will hopefully be my first and last post in this thread, but I have to say that is not a valid point right now.  Yes, Wichita State is undefeated and ranked in the top 4, but if they were to lose even 1 game their ranking/seeding will plummet because their non-con is "not..stellar". 

So,  they are making the NCAA,  catch a clue. that could work for us.  if we do it that way shouldn't we make the NCAA too???

Even if they finish undefeated, they still may not get a 1 seed.  So, even if they got a 16 seed look at where they are.  They are where we want to be. 

 

 

that is not the point.  that is still wishful thinking. what might happen. 

[HB]

 

Mistakes Miles has made

 

1.  The dismissal of Corey Hillard - Hillard was accused of stealing a cell phone.  Charges would be later dropped as he was found to not even be involved in the incident.  Why is this a problem. 1.  The false accusation made against him could have wrecked his life.  It says Miles will not allow due process & he will not stand by his players.  Bad sign for an one coming in.  2.  It is possible Miles was looking at a potential extra scholarship spot, I could get more of MY guy's in MY System.  Hillard was a Sadler guy and that was most likely what did him in.  Miles showed that he was not concerned with the well being of the student.   He will throw you a way in a heart beat if he thinks it will effect him or he can get a better deal. TIM IS A USER.  NOT A GOOD SIGN.

 

2.  The scheduling of the Charleston Classic was a big mistake.  This is a classic case of they eyes are bigger then the stomach syndrome.  I like that Miles is willing to take on name brands school. That speaks well of his attitude, fearless.  I like it.  But TIM styles himself "An Advanced Stats Guy". What do the Stats say.  They say we got our butt kicked.  I am betting right about now Tim wishes he had those 4 win back.  Don't get me wrong.  I like that Tim has the Cojones to play some decent teams, but Tim   should have gone back to the Sun Bank Classic.  We could have won that and he could have then brought UAB and Georgia in to play at PBA.  Wouldn't that have been nice to see. For us the Non-con defines the season, 11 or more wins are required in the non-con, preferably 13 or 14.

 

3.  Not accepting a tournament offer.   BIG BIG,BIG BIG mistake.  Tim had a chance to play, get exposure on TV and play some decent  teams and passed it up.   The team deserved to play, and we fans deserved to play and Tim deserved to play  Who cares if it was not the NIT or NCAA.  TIM you does not get that this is Nebrasketball, not Kansas or Duke.  We play in the Big 10 not the MW.  We play in one of the hardest leagues in the country and we deserve something.  CIT or CBI it does not matter to us.  Put your ego aside Tim. Take any tournament, we can build off of that. Here is a hint:  Pick the one where we can get the most wins.   There are over a 120 slots for tournament play.  If you don't make tournament this year, it is on you and you only Tim.

 

4. Deverell Biggs.  I want to reserve judgement on this on for now.  It is too early to tell if this was the right decision or not.  If we make tournament play it was, we can second guess later.  I will say that I have seen a propensity to be a dictator and come down hard on guys.  You mess up under Tim and boy it is over for you.  Maybe that is the case with DB.  He got on Miles Bad side and was never same after that.  

Icedraggon, can't believe I'm getting draged into this, but here goes ...

 

1.  The dismal of Correy Hilliard.  Where do you get the information that he wasn't involved?  In the cell phone.  And what makes you think that was the ony think he did wrong  He had two thinks he did wrong and got in trouble with polise but you just heared one.  So Miles had no choise in the mater.  Correy had too go.  If Miles just wanted to cleer space on his rooster, why din't he just get rid of David Rivers to? 

 

2.  Scheduling the Charleston Classic.  I agree this was bade because playing good teams a the Charleston classic helped our rpi and make us look better now since we didn't win all the games.  but beat Georgia and lossed to Massachuets.  So really that helped are rpi now but that only helps if we make the dance or the INT.  So if we win few more games then that was good that we went at Charletson because it helps our SOS but if we don't win few more games then we don't have to make NCAAs and then that's bad.  So that's bad because we could have won better against badder teams and give us a good record that has bad SOS all over it.  So maybe it was good going to charletson.

 

3.  Not excepting trounemant offer.  Well, you half to remember it was not the same team last year that it is this year.  If we had went to trounement like CIB lsat year its Ubel playing and we play 7 guys and the only guys coming back from that group were benny Parker and Rivers and Ray and the tall guy who doesn't play to much.  And shavon.  Shields.  So it probably doesn't help to much that we play in a trouenemtn last yaer  If we could have played last year with Petway and Pitchford and Tai and al the knew guys, then playing in CIB would have been gooder than not but since we didn't have them I guess not.

 

4.  Deverell Biggs.  You want to reserve judgment?  REally?  Why?  You already said it was wrong to dismiss Hillyerd but not Biggs?  Hillyard didn't do anything for us He just played few minutes frehman year. but Biggs scored points and so he ment something on this team.  If Miles didn't have reason to dimiss Hilyerd (2 criminal complaints) then why could he dismiss Biggs who only had one that he was given more hcnance after that.  Makes no since.  I think miles shuld have dimissed both Hillyard and Biggs because he was right to do it.  And thay did wrong stuff to so they should go.

 

 

Oh man, Norm, you outdid yourself.   Not sure when I will quit laughing....

 

Normally I wouldn't recommend feeding the troll, but this is priceless.

[49r]

Here is what I propose.  

 

1.  Floridia gulf coast

2. Georgia 

3.  Alcorn state

4. UTEP

5.  UAB

6.  Arkansas St 

7.  Tulane 

8.  Drake

9.  Miami

10. Valpo

11.  TCU

12. Rhode Island 

13. USC 

14. Wyoming

 

 

 

Hello, Doc Sadler!

 

It's nice to see you have found some time to visit us here on Husker Hoops Central.  Sounds like your Iowa State Cyclones are having a really nice season this year.  Good for you guys!  I bet it's lots of fun!

 

Here's hoping you have continued success.  Don't forget to root for Kansas State tonight...if Kansas loses a few more games, you guys are right back in it for the conference title!  How exciting!!!

[atskooc]

 

Mistakes Miles has made

 

1.  The dismissal of Corey Hillard - Hillard was accused of stealing a cell phone.  Charges would be later dropped as he was found to not even be involved in the incident.  Why is this a problem. 1.  The false accusation made against him could have wrecked his life.  It says Miles will not allow due process & he will not stand by his players.  Bad sign for an one coming in.  2.  It is possible Miles was looking at a potential extra scholarship spot, I could get more of MY guy's in MY System.  Hillard was a Sadler guy and that was most likely what did him in.  Miles showed that he was not concerned with the well being of the student.   He will throw you a way in a heart beat if he thinks it will effect him or he can get a better deal. TIM IS A USER.  NOT A GOOD SIGN.

 

2.  The scheduling of the Charleston Classic was a big mistake.  This is a classic case of they eyes are bigger then the stomach syndrome.  I like that Miles is willing to take on name brands school. That speaks well of his attitude, fearless.  I like it.  But TIM styles himself "An Advanced Stats Guy". What do the Stats say.  They say we got our butt kicked.  I am betting right about now Tim wishes he had those 4 win back.  Don't get me wrong.  I like that Tim has the Cojones to play some decent teams, but Tim   should have gone back to the Sun Bank Classic.  We could have won that and he could have then brought UAB and Georgia in to play at PBA.  Wouldn't that have been nice to see. For us the Non-con defines the season, 11 or more wins are required in the non-con, preferably 13 or 14.

 

3.  Not accepting a tournament offer.   BIG BIG,BIG BIG mistake.  Tim had a chance to play, get exposure on TV and play some decent  teams and passed it up.   The team deserved to play, and we fans deserved to play and Tim deserved to play  Who cares if it was not the NIT or NCAA.  TIM you does not get that this is Nebrasketball, not Kansas or Duke.  We play in the Big 10 not the MW.  We play in one of the hardest leagues in the country and we deserve something.  CIT or CBI it does not matter to us.  Put your ego aside Tim. Take any tournament, we can build off of that. Here is a hint:  Pick the one where we can get the most wins.   There are over a 120 slots for tournament play.  If you don't make tournament this year, it is on you and you only Tim.

 

4. Deverell Biggs.  I want to reserve judgement on this on for now.  It is too early to tell if this was the right decision or not.  If we make tournament play it was, we can second guess later.  I will say that I have seen a propensity to be a dictator and come down hard on guys.  You mess up under Tim and boy it is over for you.  Maybe that is the case with DB.  He got on Miles Bad side and was never same after that.  

Icedraggon, can't believe I'm getting draged into this, but here goes ...

 

1.  The dismal of Correy Hilliard.  Where do you get the information that he wasn't involved?  In the cell phone.  And what makes you think that was the ony think he did wrong  He had two thinks he did wrong and got in trouble with polise but you just heared one.  So Miles had no choise in the mater.  Correy had too go.  If Miles just wanted to cleer space on his rooster, why din't he just get rid of David Rivers to? 

 

2.  Scheduling the Charleston Classic.  I agree this was bade because playing good teams a the Charleston classic helped our rpi and make us look better now since we didn't win all the games.  but beat Georgia and lossed to Massachuets.  So really that helped are rpi now but that only helps if we make the dance or the INT.  So if we win few more games then that was good that we went at Charletson because it helps our SOS but if we don't win few more games then we don't have to make NCAAs and then that's bad.  So that's bad because we could have won better against badder teams and give us a good record that has bad SOS all over it.  So maybe it was good going to charletson.

 

3.  Not excepting trounemant offer.  Well, you half to remember it was not the same team last year that it is this year.  If we had went to trounement like CIB lsat year its Ubel playing and we play 7 guys and the only guys coming back from that group were benny Parker and Rivers and Ray and the tall guy who doesn't play to much.  And shavon.  Shields.  So it probably doesn't help to much that we play in a trouenemtn last yaer  If we could have played last year with Petway and Pitchford and Tai and al the knew guys, then playing in CIB would have been gooder than not but since we didn't have them I guess not.

 

4.  Deverell Biggs.  You want to reserve judgment?  REally?  Why?  You already said it was wrong to dismiss Hillyerd but not Biggs?  Hillyard didn't do anything for us He just played few minutes frehman year. but Biggs scored points and so he ment something on this team.  If Miles didn't have reason to dimiss Hilyerd (2 criminal complaints) then why could he dismiss Biggs who only had one that he was given more hcnance after that.  Makes no since.  I think miles shuld have dimissed both Hillyard and Biggs because he was right to do it.  And thay did wrong stuff to so they should go.

 

tHe brilliancyness of this is estoundeng

[brfrad]

I think many people misunderstand what I think the SCC was a failer.  let me explain,  the Non-con is the one part of the schedual we can control ,  If we go to the Sunbank classic, we could have possibly won the torunament,  With this team we had a legitimate shot.  Win a tournement and that says something. Now maybe it would not be against the  same level of talent as the SCC, but we would have won and then we could have scheduled some of SCC team to come to Lincoln, UAB and Gerogia at PBA any one?  control is the issue. If you don't think this is worth considering,  Just look at Wichata St.  look at their non-con  it is not a stellar resume and look at where they sit.  I am not saying that we should play only people in the 300+ range that won't do it, but playing teams in the top 25 when we know we can't beat them dosen't help either.  We can get the same RPI and SOS by schedule by doing things differrently.  Let me show you ,  Here is what I propose.  

 

1.  Floridia gulf coast (Already played them)

2. Georgia (will require a return trip) (Already played them in a tournament)

3.  Alcorn state (Has an RPI of 330)

4. UTEP (might require a return trip)

5.  UAB (might require a return trip) (played them in a tournament)

6.  Arkansas St (already played them)

7.  Tulane 

8.  Drake

9.  Miami (will require a return trip) (already played them)

10. Valpo

11.  TCU (will require a return trip)

12. Rhode Island 

13. USC (will require a return trip)

14. Wyoming (might require a return trip)

 

I don't think you understand the requirements of scheduling.  Miami was a fixed game with it being an ACC/Big 10 challenge game.  Cincinnati was a required game with the football schedule forcing the game (plus it was a road game on ESPN2).  The Charleston Classic was on ESPN networks.  Granted, much of the first round and losers' bracket games were on ESPN3, but I can't even find info on the Sun Bank Classic, I even looked at a schedule, and we should win the Sun Bank Classic because we would be the ONLY TEAM in the tournament!!  I'm going to guess people aren't tuning into that game.  Plus, we only get 10 games we can schedule.  With two more games coming from participation in a tournament.

 

So, we would have to knock off 6 teams from your schedule, as we have to play Creighton, another required game, adding the required Cincinnati game.  We already played 3 other games against teams on your schedule.  So, that leaves us with one team left on your schedule or a tournament.

[icedragon101]

 

Mistakes Miles has made

 

1.  The dismissal of Corey Hillard - Hillard was accused of stealing a cell phone.  Charges would be later dropped as he was found to not even be involved in the incident.  Why is this a problem. 1.  The false accusation made against him could have wrecked his life.  It says Miles will not allow due process & he will not stand by his players.  Bad sign for an one coming in.  2.  It is possible Miles was looking at a potential extra scholarship spot, I could get more of MY guy's in MY System.  Hillard was a Sadler guy and that was most likely what did him in.  Miles showed that he was not concerned with the well being of the student.   He will throw you a way in a heart beat if he thinks it will effect him or he can get a better deal. TIM IS A USER.  NOT A GOOD SIGN.

 

2.  The scheduling of the Charleston Classic was a big mistake.  This is a classic case of they eyes are bigger then the stomach syndrome.  I like that Miles is willing to take on name brands school. That speaks well of his attitude, fearless.  I like it.  But TIM styles himself "An Advanced Stats Guy". What do the Stats say.  They say we got our butt kicked.  I am betting right about now Tim wishes he had those 4 win back.  Don't get me wrong.  I like that Tim has the Cojones to play some decent teams, but Tim   should have gone back to the Sun Bank Classic.  We could have won that and he could have then brought UAB and Georgia in to play at PBA.  Wouldn't that have been nice to see. For us the Non-con defines the season, 11 or more wins are required in the non-con, preferably 13 or 14.

 

3.  Not accepting a tournament offer.   BIG BIG,BIG BIG mistake.  Tim had a chance to play, get exposure on TV and play some decent  teams and passed it up.   The team deserved to play, and we fans deserved to play and Tim deserved to play  Who cares if it was not the NIT or NCAA.  TIM you does not get that this is Nebrasketball, not Kansas or Duke.  We play in the Big 10 not the MW.  We play in one of the hardest leagues in the country and we deserve something.  CIT or CBI it does not matter to us.  Put your ego aside Tim. Take any tournament, we can build off of that. Here is a hint:  Pick the one where we can get the most wins.   There are over a 120 slots for tournament play.  If you don't make tournament this year, it is on you and you only Tim.

 

4. Deverell Biggs.  I want to reserve judgement on this on for now.  It is too early to tell if this was the right decision or not.  If we make tournament play it was, we can second guess later.  I will say that I have seen a propensity to be a dictator and come down hard on guys.  You mess up under Tim and boy it is over for you.  Maybe that is the case with DB.  He got on Miles Bad side and was never same after that.  

Icedraggon, can't believe I'm getting draged into this, but here goes ...

 

1.  The dismal of Correy Hilliard.  Where do you get the information that he wasn't involved?  In the cell phone.  And what makes you think that was the ony think he did wrong  He had two thinks he did wrong and got in trouble with polise but you just heared one. 

it was in the paper.  http://journalstar.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/ex-husker-basketball-player-s-robbery-case-dismissed/article_2017a109-2328-5bb6-8231-96ae4f1fc3ad.html.  what make you think there was more then one incident?  what is your source. 

So Miles had no choise in the mater.  Correy had too go.  If Miles just wanted to cleer space on his rooster, why din't he just get rid of David Rivers to? 

 

2.  Scheduling the Charleston Classic.  I agree this was bade because playing good teams a the Charleston classic helped our rpi and make us look better now since we didn't win all the games.  but beat Georgia and lossed to Massachuets.  So really that helped are rpi now but that only helps if we make the dance or the INT.  So if we win few more games then that was good that we went at Charletson because it helps our SOS but if we don't win few more games then we don't have to make NCAAs and then that's bad.  So that's bad because we could have won better against badder teams and give us a good record that has bad SOS all over it.  So maybe it was good going to charletson.

Hey you see my point, it only helps us if we win.

 

3.  Not excepting trounemant offer.  Well, you half to remember it was not the same team last year that it is this year.  If we had went to trounement like CIB lsat year its Ubel playing and we play 7 guys and the only guys coming back from that group were benny Parker and Rivers and Ray and the tall guy who doesn't play to much.  And shavon.  Shields.  So it probably doesn't help to much that we play in a trouenemtn last yaer  If we could have played last year with Petway and Pitchford and Tai and al the knew guys, then playing in CIB would have been gooder than not but since we didn't have them I guess not.

We do have a better team this year, that is for sure. I am thinking any tournament including the..... wait for it.....CBI would help  

 

4.  Deverell Biggs.  You want to reserve judgment?  REally?  Why?  You already said it was wrong to dismiss Hillyerd but not Biggs?  Hillyard didn't do anything for us He just played few minutes frehman year. but Biggs scored points and so he ment something on this team.  If Miles didn't have reason to dimiss Hilyerd (2 criminal complaints) then why could he dismiss Biggs who only had one that he was given more hcnance after that.  Makes no since.  I think miles shuld have dimissed both Hillyard and Biggs because he was right to do it.  And thay did wrong stuff to so they should go.

 

I think in both case it was an over reaction.  Hillard he should have waited for all the facts to get in and Biggs you bench him.  If Miles is right and Biggs is really the problem then the team will gel and come together.  That is why i want to wait and see. What is see is that might actually be the case. The team won on the road, which is a good sign. 

[icedragon101]

 

So, we would have to knock off 6 teams from your schedule, as we have to play Creighton.  Where is it a requirement that we play creighton?

[Bugeaters1]

"Just look at Wichata St.  look at their non-con  it is not a stellar resume and look at where they sit"

 

This will hopefully be my first and last post in this thread, but I have to say that is not a valid point right now.  Yes, Wichita State is undefeated and ranked in the top 4, but if they were to lose even 1 game their ranking/seeding will plummet because their non-con is "not..stellar".  Even if they finish undefeated, they still may not get a 1 seed.

Plus the fact that they are in the MVC doesn't help if they lose. Now if Creighton hadn't jumped ship and they were playing each other that may or may help WSU.

[brfrad]

 

 

 

 

3.  Not excepting trounemant offer.  Well, you half to remember it was not the same team last year that it is this year.  If we had went to trounement like CIB lsat year its Ubel playing and we play 7 guys and the only guys coming back from that group were benny Parker and Rivers and Ray and the tall guy who doesn't play to much.  And shavon.  Shields.  So it probably doesn't help to much that we play in a trouenemtn last yaer  If we could have played last year with Petway and Pitchford and Tai and al the knew guys, then playing in CIB would have been gooder than not but since we didn't have them I guess not.

We do have a better team this year, that is for sure. I am thinking any tournament including the..... wait for it.....CBI would help  

 

Of course you said that you didn't understand him taking a bid last year, and everyone pointed out why we didn't take the bid last year.  Many of the reasons would be very different this year.  We would have home court throughout the tournament due to our fan support.  We would have many of our players back next year.  We would not lose near the money we would have last year.  Finally, Purdue accepted a bid to the tournament so we wouldn't be the first Big 10 team to take a bid from the CBI.

 

I think all the posters would agree that this year, we should take the bid.  Almost all the same posters would agree with Miles and company last year declining the invitation.

[Bugeaters1]

 

Mistakes Miles has made

 

1.  The dismissal of Corey Hillard - Hillard was accused of stealing a cell phone.  Charges would be later dropped as he was found to not even be involved in the incident.  Why is this a problem. 1.  The false accusation made against him could have wrecked his life.  It says Miles will not allow due process & he will not stand by his players.  Bad sign for an one coming in.  2.  It is possible Miles was looking at a potential extra scholarship spot, I could get more of MY guy's in MY System.  Hillard was a Sadler guy and that was most likely what did him in.  Miles showed that he was not concerned with the well being of the student.   He will throw you a way in a heart beat if he thinks it will effect him or he can get a better deal. TIM IS A USER.  NOT A GOOD SIGN.

 

2.  The scheduling of the Charleston Classic was a big mistake.  This is a classic case of they eyes are bigger then the stomach syndrome.  I like that Miles is willing to take on name brands school. That speaks well of his attitude, fearless.  I like it.  But TIM styles himself "An Advanced Stats Guy". What do the Stats say.  They say we got our butt kicked.  I am betting right about now Tim wishes he had those 4 win back.  Don't get me wrong.  I like that Tim has the Cojones to play some decent teams, but Tim   should have gone back to the Sun Bank Classic.  We could have won that and he could have then brought UAB and Georgia in to play at PBA.  Wouldn't that have been nice to see. For us the Non-con defines the season, 11 or more wins are required in the non-con, preferably 13 or 14.

 

3.  Not accepting a tournament offer.   BIG BIG,BIG BIG mistake.  Tim had a chance to play, get exposure on TV and play some decent  teams and passed it up.   The team deserved to play, and we fans deserved to play and Tim deserved to play  Who cares if it was not the NIT or NCAA.  TIM you does not get that this is Nebrasketball, not Kansas or Duke.  We play in the Big 10 not the MW.  We play in one of the hardest leagues in the country and we deserve something.  CIT or CBI it does not matter to us.  Put your ego aside Tim. Take any tournament, we can build off of that. Here is a hint:  Pick the one where we can get the most wins.   There are over a 120 slots for tournament play.  If you don't make tournament this year, it is on you and you only Tim.

 

4. Deverell Biggs.  I want to reserve judgement on this on for now.  It is too early to tell if this was the right decision or not.  If we make tournament play it was, we can second guess later.  I will say that I have seen a propensity to be a dictator and come down hard on guys.  You mess up under Tim and boy it is over for you.  Maybe that is the case with DB.  He got on Miles Bad side and was never same after that.  

Icedraggon, can't believe I'm getting draged into this, but here goes ...

 

1.  The dismal of Correy Hilliard.  Where do you get the information that he wasn't involved?  In the cell phone.  And what makes you think that was the ony think he did wrong  He had two thinks he did wrong and got in trouble with polise but you just heared one.  So Miles had no choise in the mater.  Correy had too go.  If Miles just wanted to cleer space on his rooster, why din't he just get rid of David Rivers to? 

 

2.  Scheduling the Charleston Classic.  I agree this was bade because playing good teams a the Charleston classic helped our rpi and make us look better now since we didn't win all the games.  but beat Georgia and lossed to Massachuets.  So really that helped are rpi now but that only helps if we make the dance or the INT.  So if we win few more games then that was good that we went at Charletson because it helps our SOS but if we don't win few more games then we don't have to make NCAAs and then that's bad.  So that's bad because we could have won better against badder teams and give us a good record that has bad SOS all over it.  So maybe it was good going to charletson.

 

3.  Not excepting trounemant offer.  Well, you half to remember it was not the same team last year that it is this year.  If we had went to trounement like CIB lsat year its Ubel playing and we play 7 guys and the only guys coming back from that group were benny Parker and Rivers and Ray and the tall guy who doesn't play to much.  And shavon.  Shields.  So it probably doesn't help to much that we play in a trouenemtn last yaer  If we could have played last year with Petway and Pitchford and Tai and al the knew guys, then playing in CIB would have been gooder than not but since we didn't have them I guess not.

 

4.  Deverell Biggs.  You want to reserve judgment?  REally?  Why?  You already said it was wrong to dismiss Hillyerd but not Biggs?  Hillyard didn't do anything for us He just played few minutes frehman year. but Biggs scored points and so he ment something on this team.  If Miles didn't have reason to dimiss Hilyerd (2 criminal complaints) then why could he dismiss Biggs who only had one that he was given more hcnance after that.  Makes no since.  I think miles shuld have dimissed both Hillyard and Biggs because he was right to do it.  And thay did wrong stuff to so they should go.

 

Classid Norm.

[icedragon101]

i understand that there are something that are out of our control, but we should try to contol the non-con as much as possible.  As far as return trips, so what. we are going to have to go on the road some time.  we have already beaten USC on thier floor,  UAB was a fluke, and due to the over time loss, our guy were tired and a little discuraged, home or a way we can still beat them.  Wyoming could be used as a home game, if we give promote it as the only time for western Nebraska to  see the husker play that season, it is not that far from nebraska.  TCU is the USC of the BiG 12,  we can beat them home and away.