The Polish Rifle Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 Sorry if this has been discussed. And usually my posts after 1 am mean i've been at the bar. But have we found someone to replace Chin after he left for Bradley? And if not, do we go after another aau guy with connections???? Quote
Nebrasketballer Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 Go after Mike Irvin, even if his only reason for being on staff is for recruiting Quote
The Polish Rifle Posted October 16, 2012 Author Report Posted October 16, 2012 I was thinking the same thing, it'd be huge for recruiting, and with Brown committing to SMU its pretty obvious our tie to Chicago is cut. Quote
TheGov21 Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 I was told that it wouldn't get filled till after the season. Jugular and Row6Seat10 1 1 Quote
TheKamdyMan Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 I was thinking the same thing, it'd be huge for recruiting, and with Brown committing to SMU its pretty obvious our tie to Chicago is cut. that or the fact that Sterling no longer had a committable offer. He is a shooting guard where we already had our smalls for this class. Brown also had a very lackluster summer season and his stock dropped. Quote
Silverbacked1 Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 Isn't there a rule against AAU coaches being hired and bringing players along with them? Maybe that was just a dream that I heard that in. Quote
TheKamdyMan Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 Isn't there a rule against AAU coaches being hired and bringing players along with them? Maybe that was just a dream that I heard that in. No rule against it but there would definitely be some digging done if that were the case to see if everything was on the up and up. High School coaches are brought on all the time as a grad asst or in some sort of capacity and bring a kid they coached along the way. Quote
Silverbacked1 Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 Yeah I thought so but some where in this thick brain of mine it said you couldn't do that any more. Thanks for helping out the old guy. Quote
Nebrasketballer Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 Yeah, schools bring in AAU coaches all the time for their recruiting ties. Doug Martin at Villanova...13 coaches from the DC Assault program have become assistant coaches. One of those coaches is Dalonte Hill, who was hired at Kansas State because Bob Huggins knew Michael Beasley would come along with him and is now an assistant at Maryland. David Cox is responsible for three starters at Rutgers. Martin is the fourth Takeover guy to get a Division I coaching job. Kenny Johnson’s hiring at Indiana helped Tom Crean land a commitment from Stanford Robinson. Ben Howland hired Korey McCray of the Atlanta Celtics last June and has two Atlanta natives in this year’s recruiting class, Tony Parker and Jordan Adams. Quote
Silverbacked1 Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 That's why I was thinking that the NCAA had come up with a ruling for AAU coaches and being hired and bringing players with them. Dalonte Hill was the reason for the new rule, but guess that was just me having a senoir moment. Quote
atskooc Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 That's why I was thinking that the NCAA had come up with a ruling for AAU coaches and being hired and bringing players with them. Dalonte Hill was the reason for the new rule, but guess that was just me having a senoir moment. The most significant rule in the package the NCAA announced yesterday will prohibit college coaches from hiring someone onto his staff in order to get a player. http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/hoop_thoughts/posts/84201-ncaa-makes-significant-effort-to-clean-up-recruiting You got it right, Silverbacked1. Quote
TheKamdyMan Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 guess you were right SB, as I knew you could as early as this last season but didnt know about the new one. The fine line thinking though is what if you hire a guy and he coached a player that was say a sophomore in AAU and went to college. When hes a senior can he not recruit him because he coached him a few years earlier? Quote
Huskerpapa Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 Since practice has started and the season is right around the corner, replacing Chin is likely a low priority. I agree with a previous poster who indicated that this will wait until the season is over. The only reason that this would change is if the individual is currently standing in the wings. I guess time will tell. Quote
Nebrasketballer Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 A guy like Mike Irvin of Mac Irvin Fire could have recruiting ties to the Chicago area that reach far beyond the players that he actually coached himself. His father, Mac Irvin, is known as the Godfather. Excerpts from an article in the Chicago Sun-Times (Full article linked below): Irvin is 74 years old, a former Tilden basketball player and Xerox executive. He started working in South Side basketball programs in the early 1970’s and eventually built his club basketball program, the Mac Irvin Fire, into the most dominant in the city. “I’m not sure when they started calling him The Godfather,” said Sonny Parker, a former NBA player who played for and coached with Irvin. “It’s been at least 20 years now.” Wherever it started, the nickname stuck because it fit. Irvin’s influence on the Chicago basketball scene over the past 30 years is unrivaled. He’s mentored two generations of Chicago basketball players, literally inventing summer basketball and as a result, often serving as the gatekeeper to the richest talent pool in the country. Irvin has handed the program over to his son Mike, and it’s experiencing a massive resurgence. Nearly every high-major talent in the city is in the program, from Jabari Parker to Tommy Hamilton Jr. (his father played for Irvin as well). http://highschoolspo...rvins-town.html Quote
TheKamdyMan Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 A guy like Mike Irvin of Mac Irvin Fire could have recruiting ties to the Chicago area that reach far beyond the players that he actually coached himself. His father, Mac Irvin, is known as the Godfather. Excerpts from an article in the Chicago Sun-Times (Full article linked below): Irvin is 74 years old, a former Tilden basketball player and Xerox executive. He started working in South Side basketball programs in the early 1970’s and eventually built his club basketball program, the Mac Irvin Fire, into the most dominant in the city. “I’m not sure when they started calling him The Godfather,” said Sonny Parker, a former NBA player who played for and coached with Irvin. “It’s been at least 20 years now.” Wherever it started, the nickname stuck because it fit. Irvin’s influence on the Chicago basketball scene over the past 30 years is unrivaled. He’s mentored two generations of Chicago basketball players, literally inventing summer basketball and as a result, often serving as the gatekeeper to the richest talent pool in the country. http://highschoolspo...rvins-town.html Mike Irvin is just a figure head. He is a club promoter in Chicago for his main job as well as the "CEO" of the Mac Irvin Fire. He doesnt even travel to all their tournaments they play in. Coach Walt runs more of the day to day and has more true ties to the players and coaches of the area. Quote
Nebrasketballer Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 Mike Irvin is just a figure head. He is a club promoter in Chicago for his main job as well as the "CEO" of the Mac Irvin Fire. He doesnt even travel to all their tournaments they play in. Coach Walt runs more of the day to day and has more true ties to the players and coaches of the area. Ok, if that's the case, then go after Coach Walt... Quote
Huskerpapa Posted October 16, 2012 Report Posted October 16, 2012 ...another direction would be to make this a position that ex-husker players could "get in the business" with. I guess it all depends on need and wants of Coach Miles. Quote
The Polish Rifle Posted October 17, 2012 Author Report Posted October 17, 2012 ...another direction would be to make this a position that ex-husker players could "get in the business" with. I guess it all depends on need and wants of Coach Miles. Is Strickland still looking for work? Quote
Cazzie22 Posted October 17, 2012 Report Posted October 17, 2012 AAU teams and coaches are a cancer to High School athletics. They are becoming more important than H.S. sports and that's not a good thing. Quote
tcp Posted October 17, 2012 Report Posted October 17, 2012 AAU teams and coaches are a cancer to High School athletics. They are becoming more important than H.S. sports and that's not a good thing. Normally I'd agree with this, but the reality is that in a lot of places, high schools are barely functional and the AAU system literally replaces a neglected high school system. It all depends on where you're at. In Chicago, the AAU is probably a net positive all things considered. That said, I might agree with you when discussin places like, say, S. Sioux City. Quote
DMVHusker Posted October 17, 2012 Report Posted October 17, 2012 I like the idea of going after Mike Irvin. If you look at what K-State did by bringing in an AAU coach and the players they got (Beasley, Walker, etc,). I think that by bringing in an AAU coach, which Coleman was in the past, could really help us recruiting and could lead to us landing some of the 2014 Mac Irvin players. Quote
TheGov21 Posted October 17, 2012 Report Posted October 17, 2012 I like the idea of going after Mike Irvin. If you look at what K-State did by bringing in an AAU coach and the players they got (Beasley, Walker, etc,). I think that by bringing in an AAU coach, which Coleman was in the past, could really help us recruiting and could lead to us landing some of the 2014 Mac Irvin players. Except that KState paid Hill over $500,000 a year which made him the highest paid assistant in the nation. Don't think Nebraska has that kind of money to offer a basketball assistant. Row6Seat10 1 Quote
jimmykc Posted October 17, 2012 Report Posted October 17, 2012 Brynjar Brynjarsson might be a good fit and we would have Iceland sewed up. (actually I just like typing his name occasionally). And there the font change goes again! I swear I have no control over this. Quote
Huskerpapa Posted October 17, 2012 Report Posted October 17, 2012 Brynjar Brynjarsson might be a good fit and we would have Iceland sewed up. (actually I just like typing his name occasionally). And there the font change goes again! I swear I have no control over this. I just thought you liked yelling at us Jimmy Quote
Sgt Lincoln Osiris Posted October 17, 2012 Report Posted October 17, 2012 I had the impression we were not necessarily concerned with replacing him right away. As far as I know this was a new position basically created so that Chin could be a part of the staff without having him as an assistant coach. I could be wrong, but I don't think there is an urgent need for someone to be filling this role. That said, if we can get someone with big recruiting ties to take a position like this, I say we go for it. I just think a lot of the guys we are talking about would be more interested in an assistant coach role, even if it is at a smaller school. Chin certainly was. Quote
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