Cookie Belcher Posted April 11, 2013 Report Posted April 11, 2013 RPI doesn't factor in margin of victory at all. One of its major flaws. Quote
Silverbacked1 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Posted April 11, 2013 Here is my prediction of the starting lineup for game one.... PG: Webster SG: Rey SF: Sheilds PF: Pettaway PF Pichford Analysis: I think it's a toss up between Webster and Biggs at the point. I wanted to give Biggs the slight edge but who knows maybe he starts the season on a game or two suspension. This lineup gives the Huskers three slashers in Webster, Sheilds, and Pettaway and two shooters in Rey and Pichford. Bench G: Biggs F: Fuller F: Smith This is what I'm predicting to be the main rotation. Biggs can be the combo guard that gives Rey and Webster breaks. Fuller would play both the 3 and the 4 and provide another shooter. Smith is going to be the muscle to rebound, set screens and defend. Spot Players G: Peltz G: Hawkins F: Tyrance Peltz will play some as a backup PG, Hawkins will play some to provide more scoring and Tyrance will play a similar role that he did this past season. Come in in dire situations to play defense, eat up fouls, and give hustle. Possible starting lineup at the end of the season PG: Webster SG: Rey SF: Shields PF: Pichford C: Smith No Parker and no Rivers? If Peltz and Tyrance are getting any playing time next year, something went very wrong. Didn't you here Benny and David left the program so we could get more players. Quote
GATA Posted April 11, 2013 Report Posted April 11, 2013 Here is my prediction of the starting lineup for game one.... PG: Webster SG: Rey SF: Sheilds PF: Pettaway PF Pichford Analysis: I think it's a toss up between Webster and Biggs at the point. I wanted to give Biggs the slight edge but who knows maybe he starts the season on a game or two suspension. This lineup gives the Huskers three slashers in Webster, Sheilds, and Pettaway and two shooters in Rey and Pichford. Bench G: Biggs F: Fuller F: Smith This is what I'm predicting to be the main rotation. Biggs can be the combo guard that gives Rey and Webster breaks. Fuller would play both the 3 and the 4 and provide another shooter. Smith is going to be the muscle to rebound, set screens and defend. Spot Players G: Peltz G: Hawkins F: Tyrance Peltz will play some as a backup PG, Hawkins will play some to provide more scoring and Tyrance will play a similar role that he did this past season. Come in in dire situations to play defense, eat up fouls, and give hustle. Possible starting lineup at the end of the season PG: Webster SG: Rey SF: Shields PF: Pichford C: Smith No Parker and no Rivers? If Peltz and Tyrance are getting any playing time next year, something went very wrong. Didn't you here Benny and David left the program so we could get more players. I happen to be one of those who wouldn't miss Parker at all. Now Rivers on the other hand... Quote
TheGov21 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Posted April 11, 2013 Here is my prediction of the starting lineup for game one.... PG: Webster SG: Rey SF: Sheilds PF: Pettaway PF Pichford Analysis: I think it's a toss up between Webster and Biggs at the point. I wanted to give Biggs the slight edge but who knows maybe he starts the season on a game or two suspension. This lineup gives the Huskers three slashers in Webster, Sheilds, and Pettaway and two shooters in Rey and Pichford. Bench G: Biggs F: Fuller F: Smith This is what I'm predicting to be the main rotation. Biggs can be the combo guard that gives Rey and Webster breaks. Fuller would play both the 3 and the 4 and provide another shooter. Smith is going to be the muscle to rebound, set screens and defend. Spot Players G: Peltz G: Hawkins F: Tyrance Peltz will play some as a backup PG, Hawkins will play some to provide more scoring and Tyrance will play a similar role that he did this past season. Come in in dire situations to play defense, eat up fouls, and give hustle. Possible starting lineup at the end of the season PG: Webster SG: Rey SF: Shields PF: Pichford C: Smith No Parker and no Rivers? If Peltz and Tyrance are getting any playing time next year, something went very wrong. Oh my gosh how could I forget Rivers. That makes me look like an idiot. Going back to my orginal post I'd put him with the rotation guys, but I wouldn't be shocked if he was starting....Heck I might even put him in there instead of Pettaway to start the season. As for Parker. No I don't think he leaves. But I do think he redshirts. He stronger and improve his game and then come back the next year. If he doesn't redshirt then I think he still gets some playing time, but not a whole lot. I've since gone back and edited my orginal post. Thanks for catching that guys. Quote
GATA Posted April 11, 2013 Report Posted April 11, 2013 Here is my prediction of the starting lineup for game one.... PG: Webster SG: Rey SF: Sheilds PF: Pettaway PF Pichford Analysis: I think it's a toss up between Webster and Biggs at the point. I wanted to give Biggs the slight edge but who knows maybe he starts the season on a game or two suspension. This lineup gives the Huskers three slashers in Webster, Sheilds, and Pettaway and two shooters in Rey and Pichford. Bench G: Biggs F: Fuller F: Smith This is what I'm predicting to be the main rotation. Biggs can be the combo guard that gives Rey and Webster breaks. Fuller would play both the 3 and the 4 and provide another shooter. Smith is going to be the muscle to rebound, set screens and defend. Spot Players G: Peltz G: Hawkins F: Tyrance Peltz will play some as a backup PG, Hawkins will play some to provide more scoring and Tyrance will play a similar role that he did this past season. Come in in dire situations to play defense, eat up fouls, and give hustle. Possible starting lineup at the end of the season PG: Webster SG: Rey SF: Shields PF: Pichford C: Smith No Parker and no Rivers? If Peltz and Tyrance are getting any playing time next year, something went very wrong. Oh my gosh how could I forget Rivers. That makes me look like an idiot. Going back to my orginal post I'd put him with the rotation guys, but I wouldn't be shocked if he was starting....Heck I might even put him in there instead of Pettaway to start the season. As for Parker. No I don't think he leaves. But I do think he redshirts. He stronger and improve his game and then come back the next year. If he doesn't redshirt then I think he still gets some playing time, but not a whole lot. I've since gone back and edited my orginal post. Thanks for catching that guys. I can't imagine that Miles sees enough upside in Parker to allow him a non-medical redshirt and would want to use a scholly on him for five seasons. Quote
Norm Peterson Posted April 11, 2013 Author Report Posted April 11, 2013 I think this discussion helps illustrate my point about how we have a legit set of backups who could challenge. No matter who starts and who comes in off the bench, there will be real competition for spots and minutes which will benefit the squad overall. We didn't have that this past year, obviously. Didn't really have it the year before, either. Not sure the last time I'd say we had real competition for playing time and starting jobs. I think it makes us better. Thing about next year's roster is that it gives Coach Miles so many options. You could come up with a starting possible lineup and maybe some key reserves and still forget a good player here or there. For our sake, I hope the newcomers are good enough to contribute substantially. Because that means we've managed to upgrade the talent. Ideally, I would want Webster good enough to come in and start. If not right away, then early in the season. If he's as good as his hype, he'll be able to do this. In fact, should do this. But then you have Biggs, who's a solid athlete in his own right and, frankly, Benny, who has time to get more confident in his shot, has plenty of experience, and may benefit from a roster that will have enough other guys who can score that he won't be such a liability in that way. Shooting guard could go a number of different ways. I like what I've heard about Petteway but have no idea where he would ideally fit. Great athlete. He can drive, apparently, and is good at the mid-range jumper. Also loves to rebound. Not so good at hitting from the outside, from what we've been told. So, does that make him more of a 2 or a 3? Gallegos is definitely a 2. He's not going to surrender his spot without a fight. And when he's on, he's unstoppable. Can he develop some dribble moves and a jumper going to his right? (Or was it his left that he didn't go to?) I know the coaches are high on Hawkins. Don't overlook him. He could challenge for minutes. Small forward is the biggest log jam. Loads of options here. Rivers has great length and works hard, plus he's starting to get that mid-range jumper grooved. Shields is Shields. Jack of all trades but really master of none. Doesn't wow you in any one area except maybe the intangible determination he seems to possess. He wills things to get done in spite of less than explosive athleticism. Fuller can play here and be a legit deep threat. Petteway can play here. Rivers can play here. The new kid, if we get him, can play here. Hawkins has enough size to play the 3. Four is maybe a bit more dicey and hopefully we land that new kid we're after (see recruiting board.) That kid can play 4 and be an inside and outside scoring threat. Good athleticism. Maybe not the overall size you'd like to see but generally big enough if the athleticism is there. But a very good shooter. Fuller could stretch into this spot. This is probably Pitchford's ideal position. Petteway could play here with his athleticism and rebounding zeal. Then you have Rivers, who lacks the heft but showed tenacity last season. And you have Smith. Five is limited in options right now and probably will remain that way next season. So, we have Smith, Pitchford, and Vooch. And, right now, based on what little I know of all of them, probably in that order. You want a shooting/scoring lineup? How about: PG Webster SG Petteway SF Fuller PF The new kid we're looking at (see recruiting board) C Pitchford. You want to go big? How about: PG Webster SG Petteway SF Shields PF Pitchford C Smith You want to overwhelm them with athleticism? How about: PG Biggs SG Gallegos SF Petteway PF Rivers C Pitchford What do you want to do? I think we have a combo of personnel that will do it. Quote
GATA Posted April 11, 2013 Report Posted April 11, 2013 I think the thing I'm most excited about is actually seeing Miles' system put in place with his players. Last year was a pleasant surprise, but it felt like a placeholder kind of season. Now the fun really begins -- depth, athletes, shooters. If only we can find that missing big man... Norm Peterson 1 Quote
nebrasketball10 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Posted April 11, 2013 "I think this discussion helps illustrate my point about how we have a legit set of backups who could challenge." Could illustrate a legit set of backups or a lack established/known assets. Just to play devil's advocate/offer some perspective perspective IMO this discussion just emphasizes the amount of question marks we have entering the season. Hoping they turn out well Quote
KZRider Posted April 11, 2013 Report Posted April 11, 2013 I am very excited about this whole discussion. We might not have a lot of B1G all-conference players on our squad but we seem to have a lot of players who at least appear to be quite good. In the kind of grinder that the B1G is, that's going to be worth a lot. I believe we will be an NCAA bubble team next year. A lot of guys look pretty good and of course we can't know until the season unfolds. The burning question in my mind is "Just how good is Webster?" What if he is that elite player that takes us places? What if he's the guy that, had he played HS in the states, would have been recruited by KU or Duke or OSU or Mich? Please, please, please be that guy! Norm Peterson 1 Quote
Handy Johnson Posted April 11, 2013 Report Posted April 11, 2013 Peltz needs to contact Chadron St., and I've got a good feeling about this Fuller kid. Could this be the year when we break 100? ( As in points in a game) Quote
Norm Peterson Posted April 11, 2013 Author Report Posted April 11, 2013 I think the thing I'm most excited about is actually seeing Miles' system put in place with his players. Last year was a pleasant surprise, but it felt like a placeholder kind of season. Now the fun really begins -- depth, athletes, shooters. If only we can find that missing big man... GATA, that's a great way to describe it. Placeholder kind of season. I don't think we'll get the missing big man this season if that man isn't Leslee Smith. I think we have a shot at landing a pretty good shooter, though, who's athletic and can score in a variety of ways and play the 4. A lot of these pieces are movable and don't fit into just one slot. I think that's part of my point. and n'10, lack of known assets is also one way of looking at it. We don't return a lot of players who got playing time last year. We take for a matter of faith that the reports we've heard are accurate. If so, we'll be adding a tremendous amount of athleticism and I think some shooters as well. This should be a team that can score. Quote
Norm Peterson Posted April 11, 2013 Author Report Posted April 11, 2013 The burning question in my mind is "Just how good is Webster?" What if he is that elite player that takes us places? What if he's the guy that, had he played HS in the states, would have been recruited by KU or Duke or OSU or Mich? Please, please, please be that guy! Amen. Quote
GATA Posted April 11, 2013 Report Posted April 11, 2013 I think the thing I'm most excited about is actually seeing Miles' system put in place with his players. Last year was a pleasant surprise, but it felt like a placeholder kind of season. Now the fun really begins -- depth, athletes, shooters. If only we can find that missing big man... GATA, that's a great way to describe it. Placeholder kind of season. I don't think we'll get the missing big man this season if that man isn't Leslee Smith. I think we have a shot at landing a pretty good shooter, though, who's athletic and can score in a variety of ways and play the 4. A lot of these pieces are movable and don't fit into just one slot. I think that's part of my point. and n'10, lack of known assets is also one way of looking at it. We don't return a lot of players who got playing time last year. We take for a matter of faith that the reports we've heard are accurate. If so, we'll be adding a tremendous amount of athleticism and I think some shooters as well. This should be a team that can score. No doubt about it, we're going to have a versatile team on the court next season. Here are a few things to keep an eye on this offseason: * Can Vucetic get bigger and stronger and provide 10-12 minutes next season? If so, that would go a long way to alleviating our size concerns. * Shields isn't a great athlete, so how will he handle the additional 15 pounds or so he'll gain as he matures physically? Ideally he'd be a 3 who can continue to play some 4. * Can Parker shoot well enough to warrant playing time? If he can simply knock down 15-18 footers, that would really go a long way. Not only would we not play 4 on 5 offensively, but it would allow Parker to add a drive-and-kick game to his arsenal since teams would have to honor his shot. * Where does Petteway fit? Is he a 2, 3 or 4? Does it matter? It sounds like he's a tenacious defender with solid handles and the ability to slash to the basket. Can he handle it well enough to play some point? Can he shoot well enough to play shooting guard? * Is Pitchford a legit big or is he an oversized small forward? In a lot of ways, I think he's our most important player next season because he's our most talented big at our biggest weak spot. I know he'll be able to stretch the floor, but can he be a good enough rebounder to prevent us from getting killed on the boards? * Is Leslee Smith on an upward trajectory? For a lot of players, it takes two years to come back from an ACL tear. Smith is big and strong, which is exactly what we need. Will he buy into a garbage man role who sets hard screens and believes every rebound should be his? * How will the infusion of talent help Gallegos? We had pretty much only 3-4 scorers on last year's team so teams could key on him. Without so much attention, can he get enough open looks to become a 40% 3-point shooter? Can he had a little more dribble drive to his game? * How good are the freshmen? We all desperately want Tai to become an all-Big Ten type player. Fuller is awfully skilled, although not a great athlete. How long will it take for these two to adapt to the step up in athleticism and talent in the B1G? I don't expect a lot out of Hawkins this season, but I'm hoping to see flashes of a player who can shoot and handle the ball. Norm Peterson 1 Quote
TheGov21 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Posted April 11, 2013 Peltz needs to contact Chadron St., and I've got a good feeling about this Fuller kid. Could this be the year when we break 100? ( As in points in a game) I'm not trying to be rude, but Peltz is a walk on. He's not taking up a scholorship and was probably brought on to help out this past year. His playing time will more than likely be pretty limited this next season. No need to shuffle him out of the program. Quote
Handy Johnson Posted April 11, 2013 Report Posted April 11, 2013 Peltz needs to contact Chadron St., and I've got a good feeling about this Fuller kid. Could this be the year when we break 100? ( As in points in a game) I'm not trying to be rude, but Peltz is a walk on. He's not taking up a scholorship and was probably brought on to help out this past year. His playing time will more than likely be pretty limited this next season. No need to shuffle him out of the program. Not trying to harsh on the kid either, just think he would have more success at a different level. As someone mentioned above Pitchford is the HUGE X factor. Quote
Nebrasketballer Posted April 11, 2013 Report Posted April 11, 2013 Starters: G- Biggs / Webster G- Petteway F- Shields F- Tummala* F- Pitchford Off Bench: G- Biggs / Webster G- Gallegos F- Fuller F- Rivers F- Smith I would be surprised if Gallegos started next season. Volume shooter. I would be surprised to see Parker or Vucetic get any sort of playing time next season. Unless Vucetic puts on 50 lbs over the summer... Quote
Badgett Fan Posted April 11, 2013 Report Posted April 11, 2013 Hard to imagine Gallegos going from setting the school record for minutes played to sitting on the bench at the start of games. Shields and he seem like the only locks for the starting lineup, at this point. Quote
Nebrasketballer Posted April 11, 2013 Report Posted April 11, 2013 Gallegos: Volume shooter. Inconsistent shooter. Can't create his own shot. That, to me, seems more like a bench player. He set the record for minutes played, not the record for points scored. Maybe he set the record for number of shots taken too. He was about as wildly inconsistent as it gets. Some games he couldn't miss a shot, while some games he couldn't make a shot. He started because of Nebraska's extreme lack of depth and because Petteway was ineligible to play this season. He won't be ineligible next season. Gallegos wasn't even the leading scorer on the team this season and it's not like the team was stacked with scorers. Gallegos: Entire Season: FG% .361 3 PT% .306 FT% .636 Conference: FG% .332 3 PT% .295 FT% .632 Dylan Talley: Entire Season: FG% .372 3 PT% .342 FT% .741 Conference: FG% .387 3 PT% .326 FT% .800 Quote
MandRHusker Posted April 11, 2013 Report Posted April 11, 2013 Gallegos: Volume shooter. Inconsistent shooter. Can't create his own shot. That, to me, seems more like a bench player. He set the record for minutes played, not the record for points scored. Maybe he set the record for number of shots taken too. He was about as wildly inconsistent as it gets. Some games he couldn't miss a shot, while some games he couldn't make a shot. He started because of Nebraska's extreme lack of depth and because Petteway was ineligible to play this season. He won't be ineligible next season. I am hoping that between a point guard who can penetrate and dish to open guys for open 3s and a more effective inside game that Gallegos will have more open looks than he had last year. This should help him raise his shooting percentage.Those open looks will depend on Petteway/Biggs/Webster being able to consistantly penetrate and Pichtford to learn to be an effective post scorer.Not sure if either or both will happen, but there is a chance. Quote
Badgett Fan Posted April 11, 2013 Report Posted April 11, 2013 Bench player?: "2012-2013 PLAYER OF THE GAME RESULTS:RAY GALLEGOS - 11DYLAN TALLEY - 10BRANDON UBEL - 7SHAVON SHIELDS - 4DAVID RIVERS - 3ANDRE ALMEIDA - 1JORDAN TYRANCE - 1" Quote
GATA Posted April 11, 2013 Report Posted April 11, 2013 Bench player?: "2012-2013 PLAYER OF THE GAME RESULTS: RAY GALLEGOS - 11 DYLAN TALLEY - 10 BRANDON UBEL - 7 SHAVON SHIELDS - 4 DAVID RIVERS - 3 ANDRE ALMEIDA - 1 JORDAN TYRANCE - 1" He also shot 36 percent from the floor, 30 percent from 3 and 63 percent from the free-throw line. All those numbers certainly could rise with better players around him, but I wouldn't consider him a lock unless he can become more efficient because if his shot isn't falling there isn't much else he brings to the table. Quote
Nebrasketballer Posted April 11, 2013 Report Posted April 11, 2013 Bench player?: "2012-2013 PLAYER OF THE GAME RESULTS: RAY GALLEGOS - 11 DYLAN TALLEY - 10 BRANDON UBEL - 7 SHAVON SHIELDS - 4 DAVID RIVERS - 3 ANDRE ALMEIDA - 1 JORDAN TYRANCE - 1" Gallegos: Volume shooter. Inconsistent shooter. Can't create his own shot. That, to me, seems more like a bench player. He set the record for minutes played, not the record for points scored. Maybe he set the record for number of shots taken too. He was about as wildly inconsistent as it gets. Some games he couldn't miss a shot, while some games he couldn't make a shot. And in the games that he couldn't buy a bucket, he continued to shoot at a high rate, which took shots away from other guys on the team who take higher percentage shots alot closer to the basket and have a much better chance of getting fouled and getting sent to the FT line. Nebraska struggled to get to the FT line alot this last season and camping out behind the 3-PT line and chucking 3's doesn't help that. He started because of Nebraska's extreme lack of depth and because Petteway was ineligible to play this season. Petteway won't be ineligible next season. Gallegos wasn't even the leading scorer on the team this season and it's not like the team was stacked with scorers. Although he was the "3-PT shots attempted" leader. Gallegos shot 271 3's, which was 130 more 3's than the next highest 3-PT shots attempted (Talley with 149 3's). Talley averaged more points, while taking fewer shots. Gallegos: Entire Season: FG% .361 3 PT% .306 FT% .636 Conference: FG% .332 3 PT% .295 FT% .632 Dylan Talley: Entire Season: FG% .372 3 PT% .342 FT% .741 Conference: FG% .387 3 PT% .326 FT% .800 Gallegos did get player of the game in 11 games. Like I said, he was wildly inconsistent. Some games he couldn't miss a shot, while other games he couldn't make a shot. In alot of the games that he didn't get player of the game, he was a non factor in the scoring department. Not trying to be a jerk with all of the bolded parts, but you apparently didn't see them the first time I posted them. Quote
KZRider Posted April 11, 2013 Report Posted April 11, 2013 Another 3 pt shooter on the scene (Fuller?) might affect Gallegos as much as anything else. Quote
nustudent Posted April 11, 2013 Report Posted April 11, 2013 Bench player?: "2012-2013 PLAYER OF THE GAME RESULTS: RAY GALLEGOS - 11 DYLAN TALLEY - 10 BRANDON UBEL - 7 SHAVON SHIELDS - 4 DAVID RIVERS - 3 ANDRE ALMEIDA - 1 JORDAN TYRANCE - 1" This means very little. Quote
Nebrasketballer Posted April 11, 2013 Report Posted April 11, 2013 Another 3 pt shooter on the scene (Fuller?) might affect Gallegos as much as anything else. Yeah, and another recruit that is visiting Nebraska this weekend shoots over 40% from 3-PT. Quote
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