nuhusker7 Posted November 24, 2017 Report Posted November 24, 2017 (edited) Do you think we will run against Marist? Should we? Are they a fast team? Edit: Asking for a friend Edited November 24, 2017 by nuhusker7 Quote
hhcmatt Posted November 24, 2017 Report Posted November 24, 2017 They're turnover prone so opportunities will be there. Also we wont want them to set up their zone Quote
dustystehl Posted November 24, 2017 Report Posted November 24, 2017 We should run against everybody. This half-court protect-the-ball/possession offense is not working (look at the turnovers). We don't shoot well. Why not use our athleticism to run and dunk on people? Because Tim Miles refuses to change. That's why. Quote
Dean Smith Posted November 25, 2017 Report Posted November 25, 2017 3 hours ago, dustystehl said: We should run against everybody. This half-court protect-the-ball/possession offense is not working (look at the turnovers). We don't shoot well. Why not use our athleticism to run and dunk on people? Because Tim Miles refuses to change. That's why. We don’t have a possession offense. I’m not even sure what a protect the ball offense is, running the shot clock down every possession? If that’s what you mean, we don’t do that. We are trying to run. It’s hard to do that after made baskets and the packline defense we run is designed to not give up easy shots so that means it doesn’t create many turnovers. Go ahead and give your opinion but you should stop making technical comments because you don’t seem to really understand the game on a more than surface level. Red Rum, PointGuard, HB and 3 others 3 3 Quote
dustystehl Posted November 25, 2017 Report Posted November 25, 2017 15 hours ago, Dean Smith said: We don’t have a possession offense. I’m not even sure what a protect the ball offense is, running the shot clock down every possession? If that’s what you mean, we don’t do that. We are trying to run. It’s hard to do that after made baskets and the packline defense we run is designed to not give up easy shots so that means it doesn’t create many turnovers. Go ahead and give your opinion but you should stop making technical comments because you don’t seem to really understand the game on a more than surface level. You're right. Everything we've been doing is working and fits the personnel perfectly. Quote
aphilso1 Posted November 25, 2017 Report Posted November 25, 2017 45 minutes ago, dustystehl said: You're right. Everything we've been doing is working and fits the personnel perfectly. I bet the reading comprehension portion of the SAT was a doozy for you. Quote
dustystehl Posted November 25, 2017 Report Posted November 25, 2017 28 minutes ago, aphilso1 said: I bet the reading comprehension portion of the SAT was a doozy for you. I was merely suggesting we try something different. Quote
49r Posted November 25, 2017 Report Posted November 25, 2017 29 minutes ago, dustystehl said: I was merely suggesting we try something different. I think @Dean Smith was merely saying that they are trying to get out and run more this season (and I agree it appears that way to me too) but the pack line makes it a bit more challenging to do so. Quote
Dean Smith Posted November 25, 2017 Report Posted November 25, 2017 If it was humanly possible or for them to continue shooting that well going forward, almost anything they did at all on offense would be a perfect fit. Quote
Huskerpapa Posted November 25, 2017 Report Posted November 25, 2017 It was interesting watching the Marist broadcast. We controlled the tempo throughout the game. At times we ran, at times we didn't run, but literally had one pass and a shot, and other times we worked the ball and scored or at least shot late in the shot clock. Against Central Florida we couldn't or at least didn't control the tempo. In the first half we simply passed the ball around the perimeter and shot, or dumped it to the post (unsuccessfully), we did much better in the second half. I guess that is a concern of mine. We struggled in the same manner at St. John's. We will struggle this year when we cannot dictate tempo. I know that is not revolutionary, but nonetheless, it remains a concern of mine. Quote
hhcmatt Posted November 25, 2017 Report Posted November 25, 2017 That was our slowest KenPom Adj tempo game in terms of possessions for the season. ATM we're on pace for the fastest KPATempo season under Miles though were towards the bottom-middle of the pack as the NCAA itself has sped up tempo. Tomorrow's Long Beach St team will be a fast paced team, at least offensively. Quote
Fullbacksympathy Posted November 25, 2017 Report Posted November 25, 2017 This is why I'm in favor of majority zone for this team. We don't have a ton of lateral quickness, but we have good straight line speed and we're lanky and skilled. Zone gives us the chance to run more and get to our spots. I just don't think there are a ton of teams that can pick apart a zone in 2017. The game is so pick and roll/iso dominated now that zone seems to force midrange jumpers, which is now the most uncomfortable shot in basketball. jason2486 1 Quote
49r Posted November 25, 2017 Report Posted November 25, 2017 25 minutes ago, hhcdimes said: That was our slowest KenPom Adj tempo game in terms of possessions for the season. ATM we're on pace for the fastest KPATempo season under Miles though were towards the bottom-middle of the pack as the NCAA itself has sped up tempo. Tomorrow's Long Beach St team will be a fast paced team, at least offensively. I've been thinking that scoring this season seems to be up in College Hoops. I assume it's due to the shorter shot clock and the freedom of movement rules finally paying off. hhcmatt 1 Quote
jason2486 Posted November 26, 2017 Report Posted November 26, 2017 5 hours ago, LK1 said: This is why I'm in favor of majority zone for this team. We don't have a ton of lateral quickness, but we have good straight line speed and we're lanky and skilled. Zone gives us the chance to run more and get to our spots. I just don't think there are a ton of teams that can pick apart a zone in 2017. The game is so pick and roll/iso dominated now that zone seems to force midrange jumpers, which is now the most uncomfortable shot in basketball. Agreed. Most teams aren't going to beat you if they are getting very few shots in the paint. Make them shoots jumpers and 3s. Tends to work for teams who run zone against us. I would love to see us run zone at least half of the time. Quote
Silverbacked1 Posted November 26, 2017 Report Posted November 26, 2017 Does the zone become not as useful as we use it more and other teams have a chance to prepare for it? Just asking.. Or do we twink the zones so that others don't have the chance to know exactly what or how we are to run it? Quote
Shawn Eichorst's Toupee Posted November 26, 2017 Report Posted November 26, 2017 13 minutes ago, Silverbacked1 said: Does the zone become not as useful as we use it more and other teams have a chance to prepare for it? Just asking.. Or do we twink the zones so that others don't have the chance to know exactly what or how we are to run it? Syracuse says here's our 2-3, now go ahead and beat it. Fullbacksympathy 1 Quote
hhcmatt Posted November 26, 2017 Report Posted November 26, 2017 19 hours ago, 49r said: I've been thinking that scoring this season seems to be up in College Hoops. I assume it's due to the shorter shot clock and the freedom of movement rules finally paying off. That's a big part of it. Also college kids are getting incrementally better at shooting FTs. Quote
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