Nebrasketballer Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Here are some more of Thurman's highlights from Omaha Central's game vs Eagle Landing, GA in the City of Palms Tournament in Fort Meyers, FL. Omaha Central won the game 62-37. http://www.maxpreps....c3-f3cab8ea3c2f Again, that's decent highlight tape. It's all from one game so it's not cherry picking the best the kid ever did all season long. It shows that he has some ability. High major ability? I have no idea. But enough there that I would think the kid could get some offers. He needs to learn to put a little bit of jump into his jumper. He doesn't get a lot of elevation on the shot and his release is somewhat low and forward, but it appears he can hit it effectively. He can throw it down with a little more authority than either Nathan Hawkins or his HS teammate who's going to Okie State.Honestly, I wonder what the story is on him not having any offers. Just hidden behind Agau? Could that be it? Keep in mind Deverell Biggs, who now is on our roster, didn't have any offers either. Turns out it was because of academics and not because he wasn't a kid who could play at this level. We all wondered back when Biggs was coming out why he didn't have more offers. Maybe Thurman is in the same boat as Biggs was. Good points. I haven't really heard anything about his academics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uneblinstu Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Who cares if he didn't get offers in the 8th grade or as a freshman. I mean, really, who cares? If the kid can help the program, sign him up. If he's not what we're looking for, don't waste your time or the kids. He looks to be a pretty talented player, I don't know if he's a difference maker or contributor at the B1G level, but I don't think whether or not he was getting offers in middle school is necessarily indicative of whether or not the kid will be an elite player or even a serviceable one. I'm guessing the kids that get offers at that age are the elite of the elite. The top 1%, maybe top 5. A lot more players than that have significant careers after high school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKamdyMan Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Kamdy, is it possible there's something else holding up his recruiting? Is he having academic issues and eligibility questions? Legal troubles? Having watched that vid, it honestly surprises me that he doesn't have an offer from UNO at least. There has to be something more to the story. What are his averages? What kind of numbers is he putting up? Thats the thing. I mean go through Rivals and see the amount of players with offers in their junior season. I mean use our own Tim Miles as an example. every article people had about him recruiting was he was in on players way ahead of the big time schools, often times in a kids sophomore or junior year to have the relationship built to try and win a recruit over early. He cant be the only coach at the mid major level that does that for borderline major/mid major players. There has to be something else, or theres always the chance coaches like him but maybe see him as a tweener and are not ready to make the leap of an offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKamdyMan Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Who cares if he didn't get offers in the 8th grade or as a freshman. I mean, really, who cares? If the kid can help the program, sign him up. If he's not what we're looking for, don't waste your time or the kids. He looks to be a pretty talented player, I don't know if he's a difference maker or contributor at the B1G level, but I don't think whether or not he was getting offers in middle school is necessarily indicative of whether or not the kid will be an elite player or even a serviceable one. I'm guessing the kids that get offers at that age are the elite of the elite. The top 1%, maybe top 5. A lot more players than that have significant careers after high school. right but he has no offers as a junior. The point was in basketball if you are as good as some are making him out to be, by your junior year you should at least have a couple offers to your name regardless. There are 345 Division one schools and I will guarantee all 345 have offers out to kids that are sophomores and juniors. The fact that he doesnt have one goes to show something just isnt adding up. That was the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Peterson Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 And, Kamdy, I think you make some great points, but seeing him play in those videos and knowing the level of competition they came against and having seen guys like the Smith brothers who went to Colorado State and having seen players from some of the non-conference D1 schools we go up against, I have to say I think there must be something other than basketball ability that has him sitting with zero offers. It just doesn't add up otherwise. He might not be a candidate for a high major program, but he's surely worthy of at least some D1 consideration. My guess -- total guess -- is that it might be the same deal as Biggs. Academic house maybe not in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Peterson Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Tre'Shawn has zero offers? The Nichols State coach better have taken a side-trip to Omaha, then, because Tre'Shawn is better than any of the 6'7" players they have on their team right now. Seriously. No D1 offers? That's just crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredsSlacks Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Tre'Shawn has zero offers? The Nichols State coach better have taken a side-trip to Omaha, then, because Tre'Shawn is better than any of the 6'7" players they have on their team right now. Seriously. No D1 offers? That's just crazy. I think it's pretty clear that something beyond basketball is the reason he does not have any offers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBigRed Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 He'll likely need to go juco and improve his grades. Guys, kids don't really just get missed nowadays, especially from a school like Omaha central. Grades are one of the first steps coaches take when evaluating prospects. They do their homework. They know a lot more than we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basketballjones Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 He'll blow up later this year and this summer once he's out of the shadows of Agau and the other guys on his AAU team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKamdyMan Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 He'll blow up later this year and this summer once he's out of the shadows of Agau and the other guys on his AAU team. no need to make excuses. Ed Morrow is a sophomore at Simeon making headlines coming off the bench on a team with the #3 player in the country, two players committed to Illinois in a 4* and 3*, and a 2014 star in DJ Williams. If youre good enough people take notice regardless of whats around you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uneblinstu Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 He'll blow up later this year and this summer once he's out of the shadows of Agau and the other guys on his AAU team. no need to make excuses. Ed Morrow is a sophomore at Simeon making headlines coming off the bench on a team with the #3 player in the country, two players committed to Illinois in a 4* and 3*, and a 2014 star in DJ Williams. If youre good enough people take notice regardless of whats around you. ...just like Doug McDermott did...oh wait... trickey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concrete Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 He'll blow up later this year and this summer once he's out of the shadows of Agau and the other guys on his AAU team. no need to make excuses. Ed Morrow is a sophomore at Simeon making headlines coming off the bench on a team with the #3 player in the country, two players committed to Illinois in a 4* and 3*, and a 2014 star in DJ Williams. If youre good enough people take notice regardless of whats around you. ...just like Doug McDermott did...oh wait... comparing akoy agau to Harrison Barnes?? little different.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uneblinstu Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 He'll blow up later this year and this summer once he's out of the shadows of Agau and the other guys on his AAU team. no need to make excuses. Ed Morrow is a sophomore at Simeon making headlines coming off the bench on a team with the #3 player in the country, two players committed to Illinois in a 4* and 3*, and a 2014 star in DJ Williams. If youre good enough people take notice regardless of whats around you. ...just like Doug McDermott did...oh wait... comparing akoy agau to Harrison Barnes?? little different.... Not really. Barnes was one of biggest recruits in that area in a long time. Overshadowed evreryone else on that team. Similar situation with Agau the past couple of years. Not a talent issue. It's an attention issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKamdyMan Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 He'll blow up later this year and this summer once he's out of the shadows of Agau and the other guys on his AAU team. no need to make excuses. Ed Morrow is a sophomore at Simeon making headlines coming off the bench on a team with the #3 player in the country, two players committed to Illinois in a 4* and 3*, and a 2014 star in DJ Williams. If youre good enough people take notice regardless of whats around you. ...just like Doug McDermott did...oh wait... comparing akoy agau to Harrison Barnes?? little different.... Not really. Barnes was one of biggest recruits in that area in a long time. Overshadowed evreryone else on that team. Similar situation with Agau the past couple of years. Not a talent issue. It's an attention issue. He wasnt that overshadowed but just didnt get the headlines. One Harrison Barnes was the TOP player in the country and on every all american team and every high school all star game. Second Doug McDermott was averaging 20 and 7 while being in the same class as Barnes so he never got a chance to shine by himself like Thurman will. Agau is a top 100 player but not nearly the talent, nor will he be, that Barnes is and was in his career to this point. We will see where Thurman is sitting next summer as McDermott is confirmed to have had 6 offers before his senior year started while "supposedly" being overshadowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uneblinstu Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 I'll give you the point about Thurman having a year to carry the team after Agau, but the point still remains. McDermott may have had some offers, but not to any major schools. We're talking about schools like Northern Iowa, Wisconsin-Milwaukee and Indiana St. Not that those are bad schools, but for a guy of Dougie's caliber, that sure seems like he didn't get the looks he should have coming out. The point is that at times it does happen that the hype of a mega star, which, in Nebraska, Agau would qualify and in Iowa, Barnes certainly did, it's relative to a point, sometimes other guys can get lost in that shadow. I don't know if that's what's happening in this case, but it does happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Peterson Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 I remain convinced it's not about basketball skills that Thurman has no D-1 offers. There's clearly something else going on. Same kind of thing that had a kid like Biggs going juco. My guess is that grades are an issue and Tre'shawn will have to go juco to get qualified just like Biggs did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uneblinstu Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 I remain convinced it's not about basketball skills that Thurman has no D-1 offers. There's clearly something else going on. Same kind of thing that had a kid like Biggs going juco. My guess is that grades are an issue and Tre'shawn will have to go juco to get qualified just like Biggs did. I'm guessing he'll get a flurry of offers as coaches hedge their bets that he squeeks in. That happens every once in a while, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickey Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 http://verbalcommits.com/players/tre-shawn-thurman They report that an offer has been made to Tre'Shawn Thurman....probably no big surprise here. They list Creighton and Utah State as his other offers. I asked the question Tim Smiles provides below of the Verbal Commit guy who responds "Hey _____, Thanks for the catch. It appears to be a glitch in my system, I'll have to look into it. In the meantime I've removed the offer." So I guess it is Off again! hhcmatt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Peterson Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Yeah, I'll revise mine too. How long ago were we talking about the fact that he has no D1 offers? I guess not much has changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredsSlacks Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 I'm not sure how official that is. I haven't heard from anywhere else that he has an offer from NU. verbal commits lists that Thurman has received an offer per rivals.com, but Rivals.com doesn't say anything about Thurman getting an offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKamdyMan Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 I would almost guarantee Robin Washut wouldve been all over that offer. They confirmed during the Oak Hill weekend he ONLY held a Utah State offer at that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huskerpapa Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Hard to stand out at Omaha Central. I have read blogs where it is indicated that Thurman has more of an upside then Akoy, but I have only seen him play once and I was concentrating more on Akoy. If we made him an offer, that tells me that he is the best Nebraska basketball player in the 2014 class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badgett Fan Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 I would almost guarantee Robin Washut wouldve been all over that offer. They confirmed during the Oak Hill weekend he ONLY held a Utah State offer at that time. And Washut has indeed confirmed that such an offer has not been made. Thurman really doesn't seem to fit NU's needs at this time, so an offer at this time would be kind of odd. Other than Verbal Commits, I have not seen any indication that Creighton has offered, either. Not sure where the site got its info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredsSlacks Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 So Washut reads this board then? In all seriousness, If Washut or Brian haven't tweeted about NU offering someone, it probably is not official. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uneblinstu Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 It wouldn't shock me at all if he and Rosenthal poke their nose in on occasion. It'd be a pretty simple way to get the pulse of a fairly significant portion of the fanbase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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