royalfan Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 Was so happy Miles put him in there. That was who I thought should be the natural replacement for Biggs minutes. Mentioned that in the locked Biggs thread. We have a big hole. He has a lot of potential. Parker and Rivers do not really. It is his time to step up. How much he does will be a big key in how we do the rest of the way. One for one as he did not make any mistakes and hit a huge shot to tie the game. He was not very confident out there, and hopefully that changes. We need him. He gives us a threat to score. Hooper and bobcat402 2 Quote
Silverbacked1 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 Another good piece to the puzzle. Everybody brings what is needed at certain times and we have guys who are willing to do their parts. Quote
hskr4life Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 Even a bucket here and there is enough... Quote
nuled2dance Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 Yes peltz never again....it's 4 on 5 when he is out there. This is not last year we have more talented guys. Only way we get younger guys better is to play more. Hawkins once he hit that three looked like weight flew off his shoulders Quote
AuroranHusker Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 I had a feeling (and stated so in the Scouting Indiana thread) that Hawkins would emerge tonight as well. Hope Nate can provide that bench spark that the team needs on both ends of the floor. Fun to see him out hustling and even knocking down an open triple. Quote
colhusker Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 Yes peltz never again....it's 4 on 5 when he is out there. This is not last year we have more talented guys. Only way we get younger guys better is to play more. Hawkins once he hit that three looked like weight flew off his shoulders This - Good kid, hard worker but the dribble back towards half court just before half tonight was beyond words given where he started Quote
nuled2dance Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 Tim stood in awe after that for a few minutes after the half ended Quote
AuroranHusker Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 Tim stood in awe after that for a few minutes after the half ended More like "Ah damn my man" Quote
HB Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 Even if Hawk would have missed that 3 it would have been a good night. He played great D and was very composed, especially considering he hadn't played in awhile. Quote
AuroranHusker Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 HB, it's a confidence booster for a kid who hadn't seen much action in conference play. And, at this point, NU needs a spark from the bench. So, in a couple ways, that shot was pretty clutch for Hawk. More PT will be coming w/o Biggs around... and now, Nate is poised and ready to contribute on both ends of the floor based on tonight's effort in a crucial contest. Quote
Sgt Lincoln Osiris Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 The top of the 2-3 zone is a lot more intimidating with long guards like Tai and Nate than if you put Benny up there. I felt like the zone really was a difference maker for us in the 2nd half FredsSlacks, throwback and HB 3 Quote
royalfan Posted January 31, 2014 Author Report Posted January 31, 2014 I hate the zone we play. It let Ohio st. back in game and got us off to a horrid start again tonight in 2nd half. We have to learn to play it better if we are going to continue to use it. Quote
hhcdave Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 Royalfan, one of us is way off on our thoughts on our zone. I love it and think its played well. You hate it and don't. I've been wrong many times in my life, so it could definitely be me. I loved it tonight though, as I note in the report card (even after OSU). One thing we DO have in common - can't WAIT for Royals baseball and the season to get started! Book 91 wins this year and the AL Central coming to KC. bball23 1 Quote
Sgt Lincoln Osiris Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 I may be mistaken as well, I thought it was our zone collapsing on them inside that forced a couple of turnovers during our run to start the second half Quote
hhcdave Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 Our zone held them to 23 in the second half. HB 1 Quote
AuroranHusker Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 Nebraska's zone worked as a "change of pace" tonight, but they need to keep their hands up so as to be in the passing lanes to be better (see the "amoeba" D that the 'Cuse employ). And, look no further than at Indiana's very effective zone in the 1st half, they seemed to tip & deflect passes right & left. Why Crean went away from the zone in the 2nd is beyond comprehension.... Quote
uneblinstu Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 Indiana's zone was so effective because NU didn't attack it. In the second half, after IU went back to it, NU attacked the zone and had a lot more success. Quote
royalfan Posted January 31, 2014 Author Report Posted January 31, 2014 Our zone held them to 23 in the second half. We were not playing zone though the entire half were we? I could be mistaken but seemed to me the best stretch of defense we played in the 2nd half was man to man? Seemed like the zone was getting killed early on in 2nd half(we were somehow shrinking lead despite it) and then we went to it late in the half with more success. But Ohio St came storming back against it. I don't think we used it much against Minny either. Seems to me, that we have gotten torched by it. And I could certainly be wrong, but that is how it seems to me. And this is coming from a guy that believes in zones if played properly. I think we have the pieces to have a good zone team, I just don't think we have played a good zone this year yet. Quote
hhcdave Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 True that it wasn't zone the entire second half but it seemed like at least 70% of it and I thought it was the zone that turned things around, especially the minutes Hawkins was in. Who knows though other than WHAT A WIN!!! Quote
uneblinstu Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 We were in zone quite a bit of the second half. Indiana's lack of a shooter made it look more effective than in other games, but tonight it was the right call because IU was having such a poor night shooting. I don't believe we played it much in the first half and started the 2nd in man. Quote
royalfan Posted January 31, 2014 Author Report Posted January 31, 2014 True that it wasn't zone the entire second half but it seemed like at least 70% of it and I thought it was the zone that turned things around, especially the minutes Hawkins was in. Who knows though other than WHAT A WIN!!! What a win is something we can all agree with. Incredible to get a win against a name program(although obviously down a bit) while not playing all that well. We have not played our best basketball yet. That is the encouraging part. Miles knows better than I do, what defense we need to be playing when. I just hope we improve our zone a bit:) The main thing is the kids have bought in on that end. They are giving the effort in all defensive systems. bball23 1 Quote
royalfan Posted January 31, 2014 Author Report Posted January 31, 2014 We were in zone quite a bit of the second half. Indiana's lack of a shooter made it look more effective than in other games, but tonight it was the right call because IU was having such a poor night shooting. I don't believe we played it much in the first half and started the 2nd in man. We certainly started the 2nd half in zone. I was getting so pissed off we kept staying in it. I gotta watch this one back. I am surprised I am in disagreement with multiple smart people on the issue. I completely understand the logic behind the zone. These guys cannot shoot. But they were getting easy shots to start the 2nd half against the zone. I don't think I lost my mind at least, but starting to wonder. Quote
uneblinstu Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 We were in zone quite a bit of the second half. Indiana's lack of a shooter made it look more effective than in other games, but tonight it was the right call because IU was having such a poor night shooting. I don't believe we played it much in the first half and started the 2nd in man. We certainly started the 2nd half in zone. I was getting so pissed off we kept staying in it. I gotta watch this one back. I am surprised I am in disagreement with multiple smart people on the issue. I completely understand the logic behind the zone. These guys cannot shoot. But they were getting easy shots to start the 2nd half against the zone. I don't think I lost my mind at least, but starting to wonder. Maybe I have it backwards, I don't know. I know it worked tonight. I probably wouldn't employ it much vs. Michigan... Quote
Shuttlesworth Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 I really believe that Nate will start for us next year. Quote
Fullbacksympathy Posted January 31, 2014 Report Posted January 31, 2014 I'll take him over Biggs just based on brains, honestly. He played smart, within the offense, and I think it's obvious he's going to develop into a three point threat. I was impressed with his presence in the zone, as well. Good length, stayed home and disciplined. Give me a 2-3 guard with size, defense, and three point range over a scorer who turns it over half the time any day. Quote
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