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I'm going to try to take the stance of a "realist" (aka a weathered Nebraska basketball fan) for a second. Don't get me wrong, I am very excited about Miles, the direction of the program, and some of these recruits. And this very well could turn out to be our "best recruiting class since..."

 

We beat out Minnesota for Fuller. Beat out Oklahoma St, UTEP and Lehigh for Hawkins. Beat our St. Mary's, Pitt, Virginia and Wake Forest for Webster. Would beat out Nevada, Charlotte and Auburn for Attewe (also think I've heard Clemson and Georgia Tech)? Those are some OK teams. No huge surprises - nothing that we haven't done for certain recruits in the recent past. Leslee Smith doesn't appear to have any other real offers and no rating. Sai appeared to generate no major offers out of high school, appears to be a 2*, and I've heard has an offer from BYU, but can't find anything on it (although I didn't look very hard). 

 

Point being, it's not like we're getting any 4 or 5*s, or beating out any teams that we haven't successfully recruited against in recent years (we always seem to be up against Oklahoma St... I guess Pitt's a bigger name...). So I, myself, am not going to get carried away calling this our best recruiting class since ______ (even on paper) until I see them next year. If we get all of these guys, one of the reasons it's going to look like such a great class is the shear volume. But is there any one of these guys that had we got with Doc (or even Collier) we'd be saying "WOW! Look at _____ he's a ___ * recruit and we beat _____, _____ and _____ for him!" (which is the paper part).

 

That being said, I'm not overly into recruiting rankings. I'd much prefer a coach that can identify and develop talent than getting guys ranked high by recruiting services. But my enthusiam is curbed for the time being. Every party has a pooper...

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1) This is the building process.  Unfortunately our first step is to compete with Minnesota, Iowa and Purdue or their other conference equivalents:  Wake, Virginia, Okie State etc. (I do think Atewe had offers from K-State, Marquette etc.)

2) Look at the type of player we are recruiting.  Versatile Shooters and more athletic bigs.  How many teams in the Sweet 16 have front lines like Ubel, Almeida and Diaz?

3) Miles has taken diamonds in the rough and made them into solid teams.  He is taking higher level diamonds in the rough now and is going to build something great.

4) Nothing wrong with beating out St. Louis and Charlotte etc.  The A-10 is good hoops.

 

I get the skepticism and party pooping, but the tide is truly turning. In 3 to 7 years at the helm, Miles takes us to our first Sweet 16.

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Nebrasketball....good points.  With that said, I know Attewe had over 30 offers on the table.  The 4 you name are just his final 4.  Also, I'm guessing had Webster not signed with us that he would have started to get some very good looks.  Fuller signed pretty early too and I think is a sleeper.  Have liked him from the get go.  Hawkins I am not 100% sure on yet.  I know he can shoot, so I like that.  As for Sai and Leslee, I'm not sure.  I like what I have seen of Sai in his videos so I'm kind of hoping he is an "under the radar" type guy.  If you look at MIles players that made the 2nd round again this year at CSU, none of them were "highly touted" recruits for the most part.  I think a lot of it is Miles.  I think he develops players well, gets them to buy into his system and he keeps them for 4 years which naturally you would hope makes them that much better.  

 

I even look at guys like Ubel, Talley, Shields and Rivers for example and how much they improved this season under Miles.  Thats what I'm hanging my hat on.  

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I'm going to try to take the stance of a "realist" (aka a weathered Nebraska basketball fan) for a second. Don't get me wrong, I am very excited about Miles, the direction of the program, and some of these recruits. And this very well could turn out to be our "best recruiting class since..."

 

We beat out Minnesota for Fuller. Beat out Oklahoma St, UTEP and Lehigh for Hawkins. Beat our St. Mary's, Pitt, Virginia and Wake Forest for Webster. Would beat out Nevada, Charlotte and Auburn for Attewe (also think I've heard Clemson and Georgia Tech)? Those are some OK teams. No huge surprises - nothing that we haven't done for certain recruits in the recent past. Leslee Smith doesn't appear to have any other real offers and no rating. Sai appeared to generate no major offers out of high school, appears to be a 2*, and I've heard has an offer from BYU, but can't find anything on it (although I didn't look very hard). 

 

Point being, it's not like we're getting any 4 or 5*s, or beating out any teams that we haven't successfully recruited against in recent years (we always seem to be up against Oklahoma St... I guess Pitt's a bigger name...). So I, myself, am not going to get carried away calling this our best recruiting class since ______ (even on paper) until I see them next year. If we get all of these guys, one of the reasons it's going to look like such a great class is the shear volume. But is there any one of these guys that had we got with Doc (or even Collier) we'd be saying "WOW! Look at _____ he's a ___ * recruit and we beat _____, _____ and _____ for him!" (which is the paper part).

 

That being said, I'm not overly into recruiting rankings. I'd much prefer a coach that can identify and develop talent than getting guys ranked high by recruiting services. But my enthusiam is curbed for the time being. Every party has a pooper...

Sai Tummala does have a BYU offer.  And he has a year of experience in Michigan's program.  Here's his offer list:

 

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Sai-Tummala-150220

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I'm going to try to take the stance of a "realist" (aka a weathered Nebraska basketball fan) for a second. Don't get me wrong, I am very excited about Miles, the direction of the program, and some of these recruits. And this very well could turn out to be our "best recruiting class since..."

 

We beat out Minnesota for Fuller. Beat out Oklahoma St, UTEP and Lehigh for Hawkins. Beat our St. Mary's, Pitt, Virginia and Wake Forest for Webster. Would beat out Nevada, Charlotte and Auburn for Attewe (also think I've heard Clemson and Georgia Tech)? Those are some OK teams. No huge surprises - nothing that we haven't done for certain recruits in the recent past. Leslee Smith doesn't appear to have any other real offers and no rating. Sai appeared to generate no major offers out of high school, appears to be a 2*, and I've heard has an offer from BYU, but can't find anything on it (although I didn't look very hard). 

 

Point being, it's not like we're getting any 4 or 5*s, or beating out any teams that we haven't successfully recruited against in recent years (we always seem to be up against Oklahoma St... I guess Pitt's a bigger name...). So I, myself, am not going to get carried away calling this our best recruiting class since ______ (even on paper) until I see them next year. If we get all of these guys, one of the reasons it's going to look like such a great class is the shear volume. But is there any one of these guys that had we got with Doc (or even Collier) we'd be saying "WOW! Look at _____ he's a ___ * recruit and we beat _____, _____ and _____ for him!" (which is the paper part).

 

That being said, I'm not overly into recruiting rankings. I'd much prefer a coach that can identify and develop talent than getting guys ranked high by recruiting services. But my enthusiam is curbed for the time being. Every party has a pooper...

Matthew Atewe has offers from K-State, Marquette, Wake Forest, Georgia Tech, Dayton, Clemson...

 

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Matthew-Atewe-121524

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I'm going to try to take the stance of a "realist" (aka a weathered Nebraska basketball fan) for a second. Don't get me wrong, I am very excited about Miles, the direction of the program, and some of these recruits. And this very well could turn out to be our "best recruiting class since..."

 

We beat out Minnesota for Fuller. Beat out Oklahoma St, UTEP and Lehigh for Hawkins. Beat our St. Mary's, Pitt, Virginia and Wake Forest for Webster. Would beat out Nevada, Charlotte and Auburn for Attewe (also think I've heard Clemson and Georgia Tech)? Those are some OK teams. No huge surprises - nothing that we haven't done for certain recruits in the recent past. Leslee Smith doesn't appear to have any other real offers and no rating. Sai appeared to generate no major offers out of high school, appears to be a 2*, and I've heard has an offer from BYU, but can't find anything on it (although I didn't look very hard). 

 

Point being, it's not like we're getting any 4 or 5*s, or beating out any teams that we haven't successfully recruited against in recent years (we always seem to be up against Oklahoma St... I guess Pitt's a bigger name...). So I, myself, am not going to get carried away calling this our best recruiting class since ______ (even on paper) until I see them next year. If we get all of these guys, one of the reasons it's going to look like such a great class is the shear volume. But is there any one of these guys that had we got with Doc (or even Collier) we'd be saying "WOW! Look at _____ he's a ___ * recruit and we beat _____, _____ and _____ for him!" (which is the paper part).

 

That being said, I'm not overly into recruiting rankings. I'd much prefer a coach that can identify and develop talent than getting guys ranked high by recruiting services. But my enthusiam is curbed for the time being. Every party has a pooper...

I have no problem with you being the pooper ;) .

 

We some times need a level head to help us sunshine guys remember that it is a long process and that we might not be getting the best ever. :D

 

I know I think on the overly positive side, so it is good to have some body to get me to think a bit. :)

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I'm going to try to take the stance of a "realist" (aka a weathered Nebraska basketball fan) for a second. Don't get me wrong, I am very excited about Miles, the direction of the program, and some of these recruits. And this very well could turn out to be our "best recruiting class since..."

 

We beat out Minnesota for Fuller. Beat out Oklahoma St, UTEP and Lehigh for Hawkins. Beat our St. Mary's, Pitt, Virginia and Wake Forest for Webster. Would beat out Nevada, Charlotte and Auburn for Attewe (also think I've heard Clemson and Georgia Tech)? Those are some OK teams. No huge surprises - nothing that we haven't done for certain recruits in the recent past. Leslee Smith doesn't appear to have any other real offers and no rating. Sai appeared to generate no major offers out of high school, appears to be a 2*, and I've heard has an offer from BYU, but can't find anything on it (although I didn't look very hard). 

 

Point being, it's not like we're getting any 4 or 5*s, or beating out any teams that we haven't successfully recruited against in recent years (we always seem to be up against Oklahoma St... I guess Pitt's a bigger name...). So I, myself, am not going to get carried away calling this our best recruiting class since ______ (even on paper) until I see them next year. If we get all of these guys, one of the reasons it's going to look like such a great class is the shear volume. But is there any one of these guys that had we got with Doc (or even Collier) we'd be saying "WOW! Look at _____ he's a ___ * recruit and we beat _____, _____ and _____ for him!" (which is the paper part).

 

That being said, I'm not overly into recruiting rankings. I'd much prefer a coach that can identify and develop talent than getting guys ranked high by recruiting services. But my enthusiam is curbed for the time being. Every party has a pooper...

Matthew Atewe has offers from K-State, Marquette, Wake Forest, Georgia Tech, Dayton, Clemson...

 

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Matthew-Atewe-121524

 

I believe K-State and Marquette both pulled their offers. But the fact that they were interested at one time is good.

 

Again, I am VERY EXCITED about Miles and the program. I'm just trying to curb the "best recruiting class since ____" talk. Hopefully it is - but there's not one guy in the class that - had Doc or Collier recruited him - we'd be saying "WOW" about ON PAPER.

 

Also, I think if you take this year's CSU team and put them in the B1G, they probably finish around Iowa and Purdue and don't make the dance. Obviously it takes a different kind of player to win at this level. I don't want to sound TOO negative... just trying to apply some perspective - probably because I've had high hopes crushed time after time as an NU Bball fan :unsure:

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Another thing to understand is that for Nebraska to compete with the blue bloods of college hoops it is going to take some longer time relationship building.  Getting in early on a kid and sticking with them.

 

For example:  As a twitter follower and I can tell you that young "Jojo the show"  is rocking a Nebraska shirt today. Kids that are sophomores are very impressionable.  (I have one) Starting out young with these kids could eventually pay dividends.

 

I think this first batch of recruits Miles is looking at are people some of whom were on the radar at CSU and St. Louis which makes sense and is not terrible company.  Especially since it was what I would consider to be his second wave of CSU recruiting.  A few years out he is building the relationships for Nebraska.

 

I think he is off to a great start.

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Another thing to understand is that for Nebraska to compete with the blue bloods of college hoops it is going to take some longer time relationship building.  Getting in early on a kid and sticking with them.

 

For example:  As a twitter follower and I can tell you that young "Jojo the show"  is rocking a Nebraska shirt today. Kids that are sophomores are very impressionable.  (I have one) Starting out young with these kids could eventually pay dividends.

 

I think this first batch of recruits Miles is looking at are people some of whom were on the radar at CSU and St. Louis which makes sense and is not terrible company.  Especially since it was what I would consider to be his second wave of CSU recruiting.  A few years out he is building the relationships for Nebraska.

 

I think he is off to a great start.

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I'm going to try to take the stance of a "realist" (aka a weathered Nebraska basketball fan) for a second. Don't get me wrong, I am very excited about Miles, the direction of the program, and some of these recruits. And this very well could turn out to be our "best recruiting class since..."

 

We beat out Minnesota for Fuller. Beat out Oklahoma St, UTEP and Lehigh for Hawkins. Beat our St. Mary's, Pitt, Virginia and Wake Forest for Webster. Would beat out Nevada, Charlotte and Auburn for Attewe (also think I've heard Clemson and Georgia Tech)? Those are some OK teams. No huge surprises - nothing that we haven't done for certain recruits in the recent past. Leslee Smith doesn't appear to have any other real offers and no rating. Sai appeared to generate no major offers out of high school, appears to be a 2*, and I've heard has an offer from BYU, but can't find anything on it (although I didn't look very hard). 

 

Point being, it's not like we're getting any 4 or 5*s, or beating out any teams that we haven't successfully recruited against in recent years (we always seem to be up against Oklahoma St... I guess Pitt's a bigger name...). So I, myself, am not going to get carried away calling this our best recruiting class since ______ (even on paper) until I see them next year. If we get all of these guys, one of the reasons it's going to look like such a great class is the shear volume. But is there any one of these guys that had we got with Doc (or even Collier) we'd be saying "WOW! Look at _____ he's a ___ * recruit and we beat _____, _____ and _____ for him!" (which is the paper part).

 

That being said, I'm not overly into recruiting rankings. I'd much prefer a coach that can identify and develop talent than getting guys ranked high by recruiting services. But my enthusiam is curbed for the time being. Every party has a pooper...

Matthew Atewe has offers from K-State, Marquette, Wake Forest, Georgia Tech, Dayton, Clemson...

 

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Matthew-Atewe-121524

 

I believe K-State and Marquette both pulled their offers. But the fact that they were interested at one time is good.

 

Again, I am VERY EXCITED about Miles and the program. I'm just trying to curb the "best recruiting class since ____" talk. Hopefully it is - but there's not one guy in the class that - had Doc or Collier recruited him - we'd be saying "WOW" about ON PAPER.

 

Also, I think if you take this year's CSU team and put them in the B1G, they probably finish around Iowa and Purdue and don't make the dance. Obviously it takes a different kind of player to win at this level. I don't want to sound TOO negative... just trying to apply some perspective - probably because I've had high hopes crushed time after time as an NU Bball fan :unsure:

 

pulled because Atewe wanted to wait until the spring and both schools wanted someone locked up.  They didnt want to play the waiting game.  Its easier in basketball to find someone quickly than having to wait on someone to decide.

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I'm going to try to take the stance of a "realist" (aka a weathered Nebraska basketball fan) for a second. Don't get me wrong, I am very excited about Miles, the direction of the program, and some of these recruits. And this very well could turn out to be our "best recruiting class since..."

 

We beat out Minnesota for Fuller. Beat out Oklahoma St, UTEP and Lehigh for Hawkins. Beat our St. Mary's, Pitt, Virginia and Wake Forest for Webster. Would beat out Nevada, Charlotte and Auburn for Attewe (also think I've heard Clemson and Georgia Tech)? Those are some OK teams. No huge surprises - nothing that we haven't done for certain recruits in the recent past. Leslee Smith doesn't appear to have any other real offers and no rating. Sai appeared to generate no major offers out of high school, appears to be a 2*, and I've heard has an offer from BYU, but can't find anything on it (although I didn't look very hard). 

 

Point being, it's not like we're getting any 4 or 5*s, or beating out any teams that we haven't successfully recruited against in recent years (we always seem to be up against Oklahoma St... I guess Pitt's a bigger name...). So I, myself, am not going to get carried away calling this our best recruiting class since ______ (even on paper) until I see them next year. If we get all of these guys, one of the reasons it's going to look like such a great class is the shear volume. But is there any one of these guys that had we got with Doc (or even Collier) we'd be saying "WOW! Look at _____ he's a ___ * recruit and we beat _____, _____ and _____ for him!" (which is the paper part).

 

That being said, I'm not overly into recruiting rankings. I'd much prefer a coach that can identify and develop talent than getting guys ranked high by recruiting services. But my enthusiam is curbed for the time being. Every party has a pooper...

Matthew Atewe has offers from K-State, Marquette, Wake Forest, Georgia Tech, Dayton, Clemson...

 

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Matthew-Atewe-121524

 

I believe K-State and Marquette both pulled their offers. But the fact that they were interested at one time is good.

 

Again, I am VERY EXCITED about Miles and the program. I'm just trying to curb the "best recruiting class since ____" talk. Hopefully it is - but there's not one guy in the class that - had Doc or Collier recruited him - we'd be saying "WOW" about ON PAPER.

 

Also, I think if you take this year's CSU team and put them in the B1G, they probably finish around Iowa and Purdue and don't make the dance. Obviously it takes a different kind of player to win at this level. I don't want to sound TOO negative... just trying to apply some perspective - probably because I've had high hopes crushed time after time as an NU Bball fan :unsure:

 

pulled because Atewe wanted to wait until the spring and both schools wanted someone locked up.  They didnt want to play the waiting game.  Its easier in basketball to find someone quickly than having to wait on someone to decide.

That and he visited The Little Apple and after that said ew.... :huh:

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Another thing to understand is that for Nebraska to compete with the blue bloods of college hoops it is going to take some longer time relationship building.  Getting in early on a kid and sticking with them.

 

For example:  As a twitter follower and I can tell you that young "Jojo the show"  is rocking a Nebraska shirt today. Kids that are sophomores are very impressionable.  (I have one) Starting out young with these kids could eventually pay dividends.

 

I think this first batch of recruits Miles is looking at are people some of whom were on the radar at CSU and St. Louis which makes sense and is not terrible company.  Especially since it was what I would consider to be his second wave of CSU recruiting.  A few years out he is building the relationships for Nebraska.

 

I think he is off to a great start.

 

Well said - and I agree.

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Another thing to understand is that for Nebraska to compete with the blue bloods of college hoops it is going to take some longer time relationship building.  Getting in early on a kid and sticking with them.

 

For example:  As a twitter follower and I can tell you that young "Jojo the show"  is rocking a Nebraska shirt today. Kids that are sophomores are very impressionable.  (I have one) Starting out young with these kids could eventually pay dividends.

 

I think this first batch of recruits Miles is looking at are people some of whom were on the radar at CSU and St. Louis which makes sense and is not terrible company.  Especially since it was what I would consider to be his second wave of CSU recruiting.  A few years out he is building the relationships for Nebraska.

 

I think he is off to a great start.

Please do me one small favor.  I know this may seem very petty of me, but we never called Akoy Agau "Zero the Hero."  We called him Akoy Agau.  It seems very presumptuous for a 10th grader to adopt a nickname like "Jojo the Show."  I have a feeling both nicknames have similar origins, and the kid may have just followed someone else's suggestion.  But, until he's hanging banners somewhere, can we just call him by his actual name?  Sorry, again, for being petty.  But just do me this one small favor. Thanks.

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I'm going to try to take the stance of a "realist" (aka a weathered Nebraska basketball fan) for a second. Don't get me wrong, I am very excited about Miles, the direction of the program, and some of these recruits. And this very well could turn out to be our "best recruiting class since..."

 

We beat out Minnesota for Fuller. Beat out Oklahoma St, UTEP and Lehigh for Hawkins. Beat our St. Mary's, Pitt, Virginia and Wake Forest for Webster. Would beat out Nevada, Charlotte and Auburn for Attewe (also think I've heard Clemson and Georgia Tech)? Those are some OK teams. No huge surprises - nothing that we haven't done for certain recruits in the recent past. Leslee Smith doesn't appear to have any other real offers and no rating. Sai appeared to generate no major offers out of high school, appears to be a 2*, and I've heard has an offer from BYU, but can't find anything on it (although I didn't look very hard). 

 

Point being, it's not like we're getting any 4 or 5*s, or beating out any teams that we haven't successfully recruited against in recent years (we always seem to be up against Oklahoma St... I guess Pitt's a bigger name...). So I, myself, am not going to get carried away calling this our best recruiting class since ______ (even on paper) until I see them next year. If we get all of these guys, one of the reasons it's going to look like such a great class is the shear volume. But is there any one of these guys that had we got with Doc (or even Collier) we'd be saying "WOW! Look at _____ he's a ___ * recruit and we beat _____, _____ and _____ for him!" (which is the paper part).

 

That being said, I'm not overly into recruiting rankings. I'd much prefer a coach that can identify and develop talent than getting guys ranked high by recruiting services. But my enthusiam is curbed for the time being. Every party has a pooper...

I go by recruiting rankings, then which schools have offered, then his film.  And film and schools are probably more important than rankings.  I feel like I see a lot in film.  Not to toot my own horn here (OK, I'll toot it a little bit) but I was all over Sheldon Jeter before he had any real offers.  Eventually, he wound up in the Rivals top 150 and had very solid offers including from Wisconsin.

 

I had Matt Thomas down as a terrific player before he wound up on the Rivals 150 and same with that PG from Arizona who committed to Colorado.  So, with that background, IMHO, we have some very good players coming in.  I think Nick Fuller has some of the best highlight videos I've seen from anyone we've signed ... in a very long time.  I think this kid is very good.

 

Listen, compared to what we'd gotten over the last 12 years, I think the offer lists Miles' recruits have had, these kids stack up very well against anyone we've had.  There were years under Collier and Doc where basically none of our signees had other big time offers.  We were competing against basically all mid majors.  Take Ubel for example.  Don't recall exactly, but I think his best other offers were, like, Drake and Missouri State. 

 

I am comfortable that recruiting is taking a step forward.

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I'm going to try to take the stance of a "realist" (aka a weathered Nebraska basketball fan) for a second. Don't get me wrong, I am very excited about Miles, the direction of the program, and some of these recruits. And this very well could turn out to be our "best recruiting class since..."

 

We beat out Minnesota for Fuller. Beat out Oklahoma St, UTEP and Lehigh for Hawkins. Beat our St. Mary's, Pitt, Virginia and Wake Forest for Webster. Would beat out Nevada, Charlotte and Auburn for Attewe (also think I've heard Clemson and Georgia Tech)? Those are some OK teams. No huge surprises - nothing that we haven't done for certain recruits in the recent past. Leslee Smith doesn't appear to have any other real offers and no rating. Sai appeared to generate no major offers out of high school, appears to be a 2*, and I've heard has an offer from BYU, but can't find anything on it (although I didn't look very hard). 

 

Point being, it's not like we're getting any 4 or 5*s, or beating out any teams that we haven't successfully recruited against in recent years (we always seem to be up against Oklahoma St... I guess Pitt's a bigger name...). So I, myself, am not going to get carried away calling this our best recruiting class since ______ (even on paper) until I see them next year. If we get all of these guys, one of the reasons it's going to look like such a great class is the shear volume. But is there any one of these guys that had we got with Doc (or even Collier) we'd be saying "WOW! Look at _____ he's a ___ * recruit and we beat _____, _____ and _____ for him!" (which is the paper part).

 

That being said, I'm not overly into recruiting rankings. I'd much prefer a coach that can identify and develop talent than getting guys ranked high by recruiting services. But my enthusiam is curbed for the time being. Every party has a pooper...

I go by recruiting rankings, then which schools have offered, then his film.  And film and schools are probably more important than rankings.  I feel like I see a lot in film.  Not to toot my own horn here (OK, I'll toot it a little bit) but I was all over Sheldon Jeter before he had any real offers.  Eventually, he wound up in the Rivals top 150 and had very solid offers including from Wisconsin.

 

I had Matt Thomas down as a terrific player before he wound up on the Rivals 150 and same with that PG from Arizona who committed to Colorado.  So, with that background, IMHO, we have some very good players coming in.  I think Nick Fuller has some of the best highlight videos I've seen from anyone we've signed ... in a very long time.  I think this kid is very good.

 

Listen, compared to what we'd gotten over the last 12 years, I think the offer lists Miles' recruits have had, these kids stack up very well against anyone we've had.  There were years under Collier and Doc where basically none of our signees had other big time offers.  We were competing against basically all mid majors.  Take Ubel for example.  Don't recall exactly, but I think his best other offers were, like, Drake and Missouri State. 

 

I am comfortable that recruiting is taking a step forward.

So says "Norm the Form" :D

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It definitely seems as though we're heading in the right direction. Time will obviously tell. But if we would've signed/offered Hawkins, Smith and Sai with Doc or BC, it would've been par for the course. The others have some higher offers, but no one out of the ordinary. I think we competed with OK St for Shang Ping!!

But again, I feel as though we are heading in the right direction. I'm just going to refrain from "best class since _____!" talk.

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It definitely seems as though we're heading in the right direction. Time will obviously tell. But if we would've signed/offered Hawkins, Smith and Sai with Doc or BC, it would've been par for the course. The others have some higher offers, but no one out of the ordinary. I think we competed with OK St for Shang Ping!!

But again, I feel as though we are heading in the right direction. I'm just going to refrain from "best class since _____!" talk.

Okay I'll say best class since 2010?  Does that help? :D

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It definitely seems as though we're heading in the right direction. Time will obviously tell. But if we would've signed/offered Hawkins, Smith and Sai with Doc or BC, it would've been par for the course. The others have some higher offers, but no one out of the ordinary. I think we competed with OK St for Shang Ping!!

But again, I feel as though we are heading in the right direction. I'm just going to refrain from "best class since _____!" talk.

Okay I'll say best class since 2010?  Does that help? :D

 

Haha I think as a lifelong Husker fan I've gotten sick of hearing how good someone's going to be before we've seen them play - only to be let down. So while it's neat to follow recruiting and know what to look for from the guys coming in, I try to keep my feet on the ground

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It definitely seems as though we're heading in the right direction. Time will obviously tell. But if we would've signed/offered Hawkins, Smith and Sai with Doc or BC, it would've been par for the course. The others have some higher offers, but no one out of the ordinary. I think we competed with OK St for Shang Ping!!

But again, I feel as though we are heading in the right direction. I'm just going to refrain from "best class since _____!" talk.

The difference is that in the past when Nebraska has signed guys like Hawkins, Smith, and Atewe they didn't sign guys like Tummala, Fuller, and Webster to build around them.  It's not like Nebraska has never has good players/role players.  The issue is that they didn't have big time playmakers/scorers/go-to guys playing around them.  There have been plenty of guys that have played for Nebraska in recent years that would have done just fine on other teams like Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio St, Minnesota, Michigan St, etc.  There is no doubt in my mind that guys like Brandon Ubel, Toney McCray, Brandon Richardson, Sek Henry, Lance Jeter, Eshaunte Jones, Ryan Anderson, Ade Dagunduro, etc. could have seen playing time on some really good teams, because I think they have all been pretty good players.  It's just that Nebraska didn't have big-time scorers on the floor with them, so alot of times they were forced to do more than their skills allowed, and many times they were forced to play out of position.

 

I don't think the issue is that Nebraska can never sign any players that are the same caliber as some of the players they have had over the last few years.  I think the issue is that when they sign this caliber of player, they need to sign a few playmakers/scorers/go-to guys (Sai Tummala, Nick Fuller, Tai Webster) to place around them.  That way the role players can play their roles, instead of being forced to do more than what their skills allow, and instead of being forced to play out of position.

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It definitely seems as though we're heading in the right direction. Time will obviously tell. But if we would've signed/offered Hawkins, Smith and Sai with Doc or BC, it would've been par for the course. The others have some higher offers, but no one out of the ordinary. I think we competed with OK St for Shang Ping!!

But again, I feel as though we are heading in the right direction. I'm just going to refrain from "best class since _____!" talk.

The difference is that in the past when Nebraska has signed guys like Hawkins, Smith, and Atewe they didn't sign guys like Tummala, Fuller, and Webster to build around them.  It's not like Nebraska has never has good players/role players.  The issue is that they didn't have big time playmakers/scorers/go-to guys playing around them.  There have been plenty of guys that have played for Nebraska in recent years that would have done just fine on other teams like Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio St, Minnesota, Michigan St, etc.  There is no doubt in my mind that guys like Brandon Ubel, Toney McCray, Brandon Richardson, Sek Henry, Lance Jeter, Eshaunte Jones, Ryan Anderson, Ade Dagunduro, etc. could have seen playing time on some really good teams, because I think they have all been pretty good players.  It's just that Nebraska didn't have big-time scorers on the floor with them, so alot of times they were forced to do more than their skills allowed, and many times they were forced to play out of position.

 

I don't think the issue is that Nebraska can never sign any players that are the same caliber as some of the players they have had over the last few years.  I think the issue is that when they sign this caliber of player, they need to sign a few playmakers/scorers/go-to guys (Sai Tummala, Nick Fuller, Tai Webster) to place around them.  That way the role players can play their roles, instead of being forced to do more than what their skills allow, and instead of being forced to play out of position.

Excellent :)

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