2016-17 Husker opponents

[uneblinstu]

I understand that...but I can hope.

 

I don't like the way this shapes up for us.

Just depends on how good we are.

[nustudent]

The more I think about this...the less I like this schedule

[nustudent]

 

I understand that...but I can hope.

 

I don't like the way this shapes up for us.

Just depends on how good we are.

 

Certainly creates a major uphill battle.  As I said above...if we make the dance...we will have more than earned it

[hhcmatt]

I'd go find 2 patsies...even 300 level RPI teams to add two wins.  Move the University of Mary to an exhibition game

 

Unless exempted under a tournament, we can only play 12 non-con games so it's not possible to have 13 unless you can do one of those 4 game tourneys.

 

Did we just figure out to get a W without decreasing our RPI or SOS though?  Like when we went to the tourney we beat The Citadel, which had a RPI of 325 I think we get credit for the win on our schedule here but don't take the RPI hit. Is this perhaps slightly superior to a low RPI in that regard? 

[nustudent]

Have a hard time seeing that win count on a resume

[hhcmatt]

Did we just figure out to get a W without decreasing our RPI or SOS though?  Like when we went to the tourney we beat The Citadel, which had a RPI of 325 I think we get credit for the win on our schedule here but don't take the RPI hit. Is this perhaps slightly superior to a low RPI in that regard? 

 

Here is our RPI last year

 

 

Here is our RPI if we drop our win vs Arkansas Pine Bluff (RPI 311)

 

Obviously both of these records aren't good enough to make it into the tournament but notice how our RPI and SOS moves up slightly when you take out that win? 

 

Here is what it looks like when you take out the Ark-LR game and add in a Div II win.

 

 

 

Have a hard time seeing that win count on a resume

 

To me it's equally as worthless as a 300 RPI win without the RPI hit. 

 

[khoock]

Have a hard time seeing that win count on a resume

It will count in your win total but not towards your RPI. UNO plays a game like that every year against Iowa Western or some other team of that level.

[nustudent]

Have a hard time seeing that win count on a resume

It will count in your win total but not towards your RPI. UNO plays a game like that every year against Iowa Western or some other team of that level.

I'd consider us and UNO to be in different positions

[nustudent]

Did we just figure out to get a W without decreasing our RPI or SOS though? Like when we went to the tourney we beat The Citadel, which had a RPI of 325 I think we get credit for the win on our schedule here but don't take the RPI hit. Is this perhaps slightly superior to a low RPI in that regard?

Here is our RPI last year

Here is our RPI if we drop our win vs Arkansas Pine Bluff (RPI 311)

Obviously both of these records aren't good enough to make it into the tournament but notice how our RPI and SOS moves up slightly when you take out that win?

Here is what it looks like when you take out the Ark-LR game and add in a Div II win.

Have a hard time seeing that win count on a resume

To me it's equally as worthless as a 300 RPI win without the RPI hit.

I think there are times where a win counts more than 3-4 spots in the RPI.

Think of it this way. Say we go 8-4. The .500 in conference and win one in the big ten. That's only 17-14 against d1 teams. That's a hard sell.

May seem small, but 18 wins carries more weight than 17

[AuroranHusker]

The University of Mary schedule from last year:

http://www.goumary.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbball

 

 

Obviously it is difficult to get games scheduled. This game at U of Mary is because Miles graduated from the school. Typically it would be an exhibition game, but with the difficulty of NU's away/neutral games on the non-conference slate, I don't have a huge issue *this year*. Any other year and it would be questioned much more...

[Silverbacked1]

Isn't U of Mary one of our exhibition game? We are just playing a game before that counts. Some schools do that once in a while.

[AuroranHusker]

 

Isn't U of Mary one of our exhibition game? We are just playing a game before that counts. Some schools do that once in a while.

 

No, it is a regular season game in 2016; the exhibition game and secret scrimmage have yet to be made known.

[hhcmatt]

I think there are times where a win counts more than 3-4 spots in the RPI.

Think of it this way. Say we go 8-4. The .500 in conference and win one in the big ten. That's only 17-14 against d1 teams. That's a hard sell.

May seem small, but 18 wins carries more weight than 17

 

 

Our record will be officially 18-14 though and when the committee first starts evaluating, if they need to, it will see that record plus our SOS and RPI. I don't think it's scrutinized as much as a football Div II game and will be overlooked.

 

We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

[khoock]

Have a hard time seeing that win count on a resume

It will count in your win total but not towards your RPI. UNO plays a game like that every year against Iowa Western or some other team of that level.

I'd consider us and UNO to be in different positions

Agree. I was just saying that the win does count towards our win total.

[Silverbacked1]

 

Isn't U of Mary one of our exhibition game? We are just playing a game before that counts. Some schools do that once in a while.

 

No, it is a regular season game in 2016; the exhibition game and secret scrimmage have yet to be made known.

okay thanks.

[HuskerFever]

 

Expect to see a lot of this from this from the local wags leading up to the season.

https://twitter.com/dirkchatelain/status/753641305968959488

Hard to disagree until Miles actually beats them. It's only one game but I think that's a pretty important one for him this year. Probably will be pretty close to a pick em at home.

 

I fail to see how a team's nonconference schedule makes any difference as to how it compares to another though. This is just Dirk being Dirk without having any substantiation to his claims.

[49r]

Expect to see a lot of this from this from the local wags leading up to the season.

 

 

But what part of what he's saying is wrong?  Creighton is light years ahead of us, talent-wise.  They're a legit top 25 team going into the season, will probably challenge for the Big East title and a deep tourney run this year.  Plus, given Miles' record against McDermott, they should absolutely crush us.  They should definitely be playing a tougher non-con than we are no doubt.

 

I mean, or are people gonna disagree with the relative NCSOS part?  I haven't seen their schedule so I wouldn't know about that.

[uneblinstu]

 

Expect to see a lot of this from this from the local wags leading up to the season.

 

 

But what part of what he's saying is wrong?  Creighton is light years ahead of us, talent-wise.  They're a legit top 25 team going into the season, will probably challenge for the Big East title and a deep tourney run this year.  Plus, given Miles' record against McDermott, they should absolutely crush us.  They should definitely be playing a tougher non-con than we are no doubt.

 

I mean, or are people gonna disagree with the relative NCSOS part?  I haven't seen their schedule so I wouldn't know about that.

 

No, I don't think they are. Perception says they are based on history. But I don't think the talent on their roster this year is significantly better than ours. I know the staff definitely doesn't feel this way, which hasn't always been the case. Being a top 25 team going into the season isn't really any sort of measure of how much talent is on any given roster vs. another.

[Buglem]

 

 

Expect to see a lot of this from this from the local wags leading up to the season.

 

 

But what part of what he's saying is wrong?  Creighton is light years ahead of us, talent-wise.  They're a legit top 25 team going into the season, will probably challenge for the Big East title and a deep tourney run this year.  Plus, given Miles' record against McDermott, they should absolutely crush us.  They should definitely be playing a tougher non-con than we are no doubt.

 

I mean, or are people gonna disagree with the relative NCSOS part?  I haven't seen their schedule so I wouldn't know about that.

 

No, I don't think they are. Perception says they are based on history. But I don't think the talent on their roster this year is significantly better than ours. I know the staff definitely doesn't feel this way, which hasn't always been the case. Being a top 25 team going into the season isn't really any sort of measure of how much talent is on any given roster vs. another.

 

 

I took this a completely different way than everyone else.  I took it as a shot at Creighton for what he perceives as a weak schedule.  I guess he could also be questioning why we scheduled a tough schedule too.  I don't usually like what he writes and definitely disagree with his comments about Creighton being a preseason top 25 team but for once I actually thought he was being hard on Creighton instead of Nebraska.

[HuskerFever]

 

 

 

Expect to see a lot of this from this from the local wags leading up to the season.

 

 

But what part of what he's saying is wrong?  Creighton is light years ahead of us, talent-wise.  They're a legit top 25 team going into the season, will probably challenge for the Big East title and a deep tourney run this year.  Plus, given Miles' record against McDermott, they should absolutely crush us.  They should definitely be playing a tougher non-con than we are no doubt.

 

I mean, or are people gonna disagree with the relative NCSOS part?  I haven't seen their schedule so I wouldn't know about that.

 

No, I don't think they are. Perception says they are based on history. But I don't think the talent on their roster this year is significantly better than ours. I know the staff definitely doesn't feel this way, which hasn't always been the case. Being a top 25 team going into the season isn't really any sort of measure of how much talent is on any given roster vs. another.

 

 

I took this a completely different way than everyone else.  I took it as a shot at Creighton for what he perceives as a weak schedule.  I guess he could also be questioning why we scheduled a tough schedule too.  I don't usually like what he writes and definitely disagree with his comments about Creighton being a preseason top 25 team but for once I actually thought he was being hard on Creighton instead of Nebraska.

 

 

Maybe it's just his phrasing, but if your interpretation is aligned with his than this might seem more appropriate:

 

"Creighton basketball has a weaker non-con schedule than Nebraska. That doesn't seem appropriate considering their respective talent levels."

[khoock]

They will definitely be battle tested by the time they get to Big Ten play. I'm optimistic bc Miles has always surpassed seasonal expectations, 3 out of 4 years imo (first, second, and fourth season). And I think we would have had a really strong finish to last season had Shields not gone down with that concussion.

[nustudent]

They will definitely be battle tested by the time they get to Big Ten play. I'm optimistic bc Miles has always surpassed seasonal expectations, 3 out of 4 years imo (first, second, and fourth season). And I think we would have had a really strong finish to last season had Shields not gone down with that concussion.

Not sure he really surpassed expectations last year.

[uneblinstu]

 

They will definitely be battle tested by the time they get to Big Ten play. I'm optimistic bc Miles has always surpassed seasonal expectations, 3 out of 4 years imo (first, second, and fourth season). And I think we would have had a really strong finish to last season had Shields not gone down with that concussion.

Not sure he really surpassed expectations last year.

 

there weren't really any expectations last year.

[nustudent]

 

 

They will definitely be battle tested by the time they get to Big Ten play. I'm optimistic bc Miles has always surpassed seasonal expectations, 3 out of 4 years imo (first, second, and fourth season). And I think we would have had a really strong finish to last season had Shields not gone down with that concussion.

Not sure he really surpassed expectations last year.

 

there weren't really any expectations last year.

 

I certainly didn't expect an NCAA bid....but I expected better than 16 wins and a home loss to Samford.

[khoock]

They will definitely be battle tested by the time they get to Big Ten play. I'm optimistic bc Miles has always surpassed seasonal expectations, 3 out of 4 years imo (first, second, and fourth season). And I think we would have had a really strong finish to last season had Shields not gone down with that concussion.

Not sure he really surpassed expectations last year.

In my opinion they did. Taking in to account 6 newcomers who didn't play D1 Basketball the previous year, the lack of size to defend the post, and Shavons injury I was pleased with the season.

If Shavon doesn't go down we for sure win one more regular season game and potentially up to 3 more. That would have put us at 15 to 17 regular season wins plus however we did in the tourney (since our draw would have been different with a better record). But like I said that is just my opinion.