Our short corner is exposed.

[Norm Peterson]

Can the guys who break stuff down give us a breakdown on this?

[MichHusker]

This is reference to giving up baseline drives from the wings/corners?

[Norm Peterson]

1 minute ago, MichHusker said:

This is reference to giving up baseline drives from the wings/corners?

 

Yeah. We're forcing everything baseline, which I don't have a problem with. As long as it's a guy trying to drive to the hoop. We have someone there to stop penetration.

 

But when our closers bite on pump fakes, the shooters will dribble hard to the short corner and shoot a wide-open 15 footer. Repeatedly.

 

I've seen this same thing, game after game in conference.

 

Granted, it's maybe not the highest percentage shot in basketball, but it's probably better than a contested shot at the rim.

[MichHusker]

15 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said:

 

Yeah. We're forcing everything baseline, which I don't have a problem with. As long as it's a guy trying to drive to the hoop. We have someone there to stop penetration.

 

But when our closers bite on pump fakes, the shooters will dribble hard to the short corner and shoot a wide-open 15 footer. Repeatedly.

 

I've seen this same thing, game after game in conference.

 

Granted, it's maybe not the highest percentage shot in basketball, but it's probably better than a contested shot at the rim.

The gamble is that teams won't make nearly enough long 2's from the baseline in order to beat you. The nice thing about forcing a guy one way is that 99% of the time the rest of the defense knows exactly what their rotations would be which can make us look really good against ISO teams like OSU. I think we are a bit slow rotating out when teams drive and kick which results in relatively open shot fake mid range pullups, and elite shooting teams like MSU certainly made us pay. 

[Huskerpapa]

OSU had a dismal night shooting these mis-range pull up shots.  I was openly calling for them to keep shooting them.

[MichHusker]

https://public.tableau.com/views/CollegeBasketballShotChart2020/ShotChartDashboard?:showVizHome=no

 

Hopefully the link above works. Really cool shooting chart from the 2020 season that show every teams percentages from different spots on the floor as well as NCAA averages. Baseline mid range is a shot that on average goes in 32% of the time

[millerhusker]

By design. Analytically, it is the least efficient shot attempt in basketball. Nowadays coaches will pull their guards out of the game if they shoot that shot off the dribble. Against Nebraska, you almost have to shoot that shot. I think it's brilliant. Cant' take away everything, especially when you have to double the post. So we'll give them what the analytics say will allow the least amount of points per possession. 

[hskr4life]

6 minutes ago, millerhusker said:

By design. Analytically, it is the least efficient shot attempt in basketball. Nowadays coaches will pull their guards out of the game if they shoot that shot off the dribble. Against Nebraska, you almost have to shoot that shot. I think it's brilliant. Cant' take away everything, especially when you have to double the post. So we'll give them what the analytics say will allow the least amount of points per possession. 

Yep— and there’ll be OSU nights of shooting and there’ll be MSU nights of shooting.

[Norm Peterson]

I knew you guys would come through.

[hhcmatt]

1 hour ago, Norm Peterson said:

Can the guys who break stuff down give us a breakdown on this?

 

Where was this referenced?

[basketballjones]

It's why MSU beat us so badly. They were 9/14 on "bad" midrange jumpers. Also hit a bunch of floaters and contested 3's. 

[hhcmatt]

7 minutes ago, basketballjones said:

It's why MSU beat us so badly. They were 9/14 on "bad" midrange jumpers. Also hit a bunch of floaters and contested 3's. 

 

In a computer simulation the 2008-09 team would beat us 64-43 behind 36 points from Steve Harley