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... In Texas Hold 'em.  Who ya got?

 

I think RiLLLey has a better poker face but PeLLLLini is one of those guys who probably talks trash the whole night, whether he has a good hand or he's bluffing, so he'd be tough to figure out.

 

I'm going to go with PeLLLLini in this one.  I think the cards are loyal to him and would run through a wall for him, but deep down I think they're afraid of him.

 

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With the way that we seem to try plug our round pegs into square holes does anyone else get a "Nice Guy Callahan" vibe?

 

Outside of the previous game...which was just downright bad on offense....I really haven't had a problem with the offensive system.  And I think this team/roster is much better suited for what they are trying to do compared to 2004 when Cally took over.  Going into the illini game Armstrong looked much improved, pass blocking has been solid, and we have a fairly deep/solid WR core.  We should have ran the ball 65% of the time vs Illini in those conditions and just about anybody could see that...so not sure what the coaches were thinking. 

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Maybe they're thinking this is just an experimental year (or transitional if you prefer) where they are more concerned with implementing a system and doing things the way they want to than they are with W's and L's.

 

Yes, square pegs and all, it seems more about establishing a culture right now.  I can see that being the case.

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With the way that we seem to try plug our round pegs into square holes does anyone else get a "Nice Guy Callahan" vibe?

 

Outside of the previous game...which was just downright bad on offense....I really haven't had a problem with the offensive system.  And I think this team/roster is much better suited for what they are trying to do compared to 2004 when Cally took over.  Going into the illini game Armstrong looked much improved, pass blocking has been solid, and we have a fairly deep/solid WR core.  We should have ran the ball 65% of the time vs Illini in those conditions and just about anybody could see that...so not sure what the coaches were thinking. 

 

 

That's sort of my point though...Callahan was always good on offense but running it his way seemed to trump everything else. Are we going to pass-pass-pass in every game this year regardless of conditions because we're a passing team now, conditions be damned? Did the defense look competent because of the same weather conditions, their running back being injured, and their own set of poor coaching moves?

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With the way that we seem to try plug our round pegs into square holes does anyone else get a "Nice Guy Callahan" vibe?

 

Outside of the previous game...which was just downright bad on offense....I really haven't had a problem with the offensive system.  And I think this team/roster is much better suited for what they are trying to do compared to 2004 when Cally took over.  Going into the illini game Armstrong looked much improved, pass blocking has been solid, and we have a fairly deep/solid WR core.  We should have ran the ball 65% of the time vs Illini in those conditions and just about anybody could see that...so not sure what the coaches were thinking. 

 

 

That's sort of my point though...Callahan was always good on offense but running it his way seemed to trump everything else. Are we going to pass-pass-pass in every game this year regardless of conditions because we're a passing team now, conditions be damned? Did the defense look competent because of the same weather conditions, their running back being injured, and their own set of poor coaching moves?

 

 

If you look at Langsdorf's history at Oregon St they were very balanced with the run/pass.  I would hope and expect that is the case for NU going forward.  Not sure on the defense, I think the defense will automatically start looking a little better just based on the fact that we are going up against Big 10 offenses.  The conditions most certainly helped vs Illinois but we also were finally able to get into the opponents backfield for once.  But that may be the last we see of getting a pass rush with another DT down for weeks.  Hopefully Valentine can make it back this weekend but it sounds like that's unlikely.  Can't believe we are favored vs Wisconsin(last I checked)...but Vegas is much smarter than me.   

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Maybe they're thinking this is just an experimental year (or transitional if you prefer) where they are more concerned with implementing a system and doing things the way they want to than they are with W's and L's.

 

Yes, square pegs and all, it seems more about establishing a culture right now.  I can see that being the case.

 

I'd buy that previously for Nebraska basketball. I don't for football.  This isn't Kansas...there already is a culture. The coach is 62 years old and the team isn't devoid of talent. At this point I hope you're right...it's always tough watching your team lose because you do dumb things.

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Maybe they're thinking this is just an experimental year (or transitional if you prefer) where they are more concerned with implementing a system and doing things the way they want to than they are with W's and L's.

 

Yes, square pegs and all, it seems more about establishing a culture right now.  I can see that being the case.

 

I'd buy that previously for Nebraska basketball. I don't for football.  This isn't Kansas...there already is a culture. The coach is 62 years old and the team isn't devoid of talent. At this point I hope you're right...it's always tough watching your team lose because you do dumb things.

 

 

Yeah, maybe "establishing" isn't the right word.  More like "doing a complete 180º" in culture???

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No matter how many games Riley loses it doesn't make me want Pelini back...it just makes me wonder if we're going to endure several years of hiring a poor replacement.

 

This.  I'm hoping worst case if Riley doesn't work out in the end that they are able to kick tail on the recruiting trail an upgrade our talent level for the next coach

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No matter how many games Riley loses it doesn't make me want Pelini back...it just makes me wonder if we're going to endure several years of hiring a poor replacement.

 

This.  I'm hoping worst case if Riley doesn't work out in the end that they are able to kick tail on the recruiting trail an upgrade our talent level for the next coach

 

 

That would be shocking.  They didn't recruit for crap to OSU.  They would have been fired at the end of the year.  That team is 2-5, and we know Anderson can coach, so clearly the cupboard was bare.     Eichorst screwed the pooch.  

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No matter how many games Riley loses it doesn't make me want Pelini back...it just makes me wonder if we're going to endure several years of hiring a poor replacement.

 

This.  I'm hoping worst case if Riley doesn't work out in the end that they are able to kick tail on the recruiting trail an upgrade our talent level for the next coach

 

 

That would be shocking.  They didn't recruit for crap to OSU.  They would have been fired at the end of the year.  That team is 2-5, and we know Anderson can coach, so clearly the cupboard was bare.     Eichorst screwed the pooch.  

 

 

 

 

No matter how many games Riley loses it doesn't make me want Pelini back...it just makes me wonder if we're going to endure several years of hiring a poor replacement.

 

This.  I'm hoping worst case if Riley doesn't work out in the end that they are able to kick tail on the recruiting trail an upgrade our talent level for the next coach

 

 

That would be shocking.  They didn't recruit for crap to OSU.  They would have been fired at the end of the year.  That team is 2-5, and we know Anderson can coach, so clearly the cupboard was bare.     Eichorst screwed the pooch.  

 

 

No doubt the staff/Riley was on the downturn at Oregon State....which should be a cause for concern.  Perhaps if we hired him in 2008 the hire would have looked much better on paper.  Riley had knack of finding lower rated players and developing them at OSU....I think partly their recruiting numbers at OSU has to do with the program they were coaching at.  My hope is Riley him finding those talented lower rated players for NU like he did at OSU but also mix in some higher ranked players that may be more ready to contribute right away.  And we need players who can contribute ASAP in the worst way as we are not 3-5 bad...but our talent in some key spots is really lacking.   

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No matter how many games Riley loses it doesn't make me want Pelini back...it just makes me wonder if we're going to endure several years of hiring a poor replacement.

 

This.  I'm hoping worst case if Riley doesn't work out in the end that they are able to kick tail on the recruiting trail an upgrade our talent level for the next coach

 

 

That would be shocking.  They didn't recruit for crap to OSU.  They would have been fired at the end of the year.  That team is 2-5, and we know Anderson can coach, so clearly the cupboard was bare.     Eichorst screwed the pooch.  

 

 

 

 

No matter how many games Riley loses it doesn't make me want Pelini back...it just makes me wonder if we're going to endure several years of hiring a poor replacement.

 

This.  I'm hoping worst case if Riley doesn't work out in the end that they are able to kick tail on the recruiting trail an upgrade our talent level for the next coach

 

 

That would be shocking.  They didn't recruit for crap to OSU.  They would have been fired at the end of the year.  That team is 2-5, and we know Anderson can coach, so clearly the cupboard was bare.     Eichorst screwed the pooch.  

 

 

No doubt the staff/Riley was on the downturn at Oregon State....which should be a cause for concern.  Perhaps if we hired him in 2008 the hire would have looked much better on paper.  Riley had knack of finding lower rated players and developing them at OSU....I think partly their recruiting numbers at OSU has to do with the program they were coaching at.  My hope is Riley him finding those talented lower rated players for NU like he did at OSU but also mix in some higher ranked players that may be more ready to contribute right away.  And we need players who can contribute ASAP in the worst way as we are not 3-5 bad...but our talent in some key spots is really lacking.   

 

 

We do indeed have talent gaps and lack of depth at spots, most notably with pass rushing DEs and linebackers.  We don't have great talent, but with our schedule and the weak west division, we have 7-9 win talent.  And we have enough athletes to not have some of the worst special team coverage and return teams in the country.    Read may be Riley's worst hire, although Stewart and Banker stand out as well.  Banker at least is a good guy; the same can't be said for Read.    I too hope some miracle happens with this tired old unsuccessful staff, but there is little to nothing to objectively hold onto to provide that hope.

 

 We will dip to lows unprecedented in the modern era for this year and next, at a minimum.  Then we have to hope that a then 64 year old will turn it around.  When he has shown that he  he is adverse to doing anything different than he has done for many years without much success--brought virtually everyone from Oregon State to fill every position from defensive coordinator to recruiting interns.  Doubled down yesterday on saying "we've always only played the starters at Oline unless there is an injury" and they are sticking with it.   Helluva nice guy, but I can't see the coaching or recruiting parts getting it done here.

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A buddy provided documentation to me the other day that sort of blew me away.  It looked at 2-deep depth chart of 40 top football programs across the country (and yes, we were one of them).  Nebraska had more walk-ons within our 2-deep depth chart than any of the other programs.  That my friends, tells me that we have had a lot of swing and misses with our recruiting.  That is not on this staff.  As much as I liked Bo, he looked for players that were not necessarily top of the class. 

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