The Exorcist

[Norm Peterson]

Wasn't sure what title to give this thread. Was going to go with "Roburt Who?"

Our demons have been exorcised. When we needed a lucky bounce, finally we got them this year. Been waiting forever. Going to toss back some cold ones and soak it all in.

High fives all around ladies and gentlemen. Enjoy this one.

[colhusker]

Wasn't sure what title to give this thread. Was going to go with "Roburt Who?"

Our demons have been exorcised. When we needed a lucky bounce, finally we got them this year. Been waiting forever. Going to toss back some cold ones and soak it all in.

High fives all around ladies and gentlemen. Enjoy this one.

Well said Norm!

[FredsSlacks]

who would have thought that all we had to do was leave the Bob?

[a0t0w0]

Edit-

 

I drank too much last night.  I apologize for my absolutely incoherent posts.

[jimmykc]

Exorcism not complete until first NCAA game won. However, we definitely have the demon's attention now.

[JohnnyOneNut]

Demons? Is this what we are now blaming poor coaching, poor recruiting and disasterous contract extensions on? No no no.

 

Norm, I will modify Coach Miles comment yesterday to respond..."You save those demons for you"

 

(his actual quote was "You save that baggage for you, don't put that crap on me" (great quote btw))

[hhcmatt]

Exorcism not complete until first NCAA game won. However, we definitely have the demon's attention now.

 

C'mon Jimmy.  Why not us?

[Norm Peterson]

Ahem.  Speaking of Demons ...

 

He's baaaack.

[Norm Peterson]

Demons? Is this what we are now blaming poor coaching, poor recruiting and disasterous contract extensions on? No no no.

 

Norm, I will modify Coach Miles comment yesterday to respond..."You save those demons for you"

 

(his actual quote was "You save that baggage for you, don't put that crap on me" (great quote btw))

Johnny, at risk of inviting further discussion from you, I have been a fan of this program since long before Tim Miles was even a coach.  In his answer at that press conference, he said he wasn't around for any of that baggage (that this program carries) and so don't put any of that on him.

 

But I have been around for that baggage.  I've remained a fan in spite of that baggage and Miles' answer at the press conference yesterday does not in any way, shape or form mean that that baggage doesn't exist.  I'm not going to pretend away the last 15 years of futility because I lived through it and it was there.

 

Maybe you disappeared and went elsewhere when times were rough but I was right here supporting this team through thick and (mostly) thin, in good times and in horrible times, and everyone on here knows it. 

 

You can call it "poor coaching, poor recruiting and disasterous [sic] contract extensions" if you want.  (And you have, I suspect, under a variety of screen names.)  But, whatever it was, it was outside of my control and outside of the control of any other fan and there's denying from a fan's perspective, we've been plagued by misfortune in this program for more years than I care to count.

 

Until now. 

 

The hell with Roburt Sallie.  The hell with Jorge Diaz's bad feet and Christopher Niemann's bad knees and Christian Standhardinger's bad attitude and Joe McCray's bad habit.  The hell with bad contract extensions, if that's what you want to focus on.  Or bad coaches using more than 8 players in the rotation.

 

Those demons have been exorcised.  Done.  Dead.  Gone.  No more talk of "next year."  We finally have the possibilities and success of this year to celebrate.  And if you're telling me that you're adopting Miles' comments and telling me to save those demons for me, you're only admitting that you didn't stick around and cheer during the tough times but that you're a JohnnyOneNut-come-lately who's wandered back now that times are good.

 

That's nice and all.  But I've had to endure those demons because I've been here all along.

[JohnnyOneNut]

Demons? Is this what we are now blaming poor coaching, poor recruiting and disasterous contract extensions on? No no no.

 

Norm, I will modify Coach Miles comment yesterday to respond..."You save those demons for you"

 

(his actual quote was "You save that baggage for you, don't put that crap on me" (great quote btw))

Johnny, at risk of inviting further discussion from you, I have been a fan of this program since long before Tim Miles was even a coach.  In his answer at that press conference, he said he wasn't around for any of that baggage (that this program carries) and so don't put any of that on him.

 

But I have been around for that baggage.  I've remained a fan in spite of that baggage and Miles' answer at the press conference yesterday does not in any way, shape or form mean that that baggage doesn't exist.  I'm not going to pretend away the last 15 years of futility because I lived through it and it was there.

 

Maybe you disappeared and went elsewhere when times were rough but I was right here supporting this team through thick and (mostly) thin, in good times and in horrible times, and everyone on here knows it. 

 

You can call it "poor coaching, poor recruiting and disasterous [sic] contract extensions" if you want.  (And you have, I suspect, under a variety of screen names.)  But, whatever it was, it was outside of my control and outside of the control of any other fan and there's denying from a fan's perspective, we've been plagued by misfortune in this program for more years than I care to count.

 

Until now. 

 

The hell with Roburt Sallie.  The hell with Jorge Diaz's bad feet and Christopher Niemann's bad knees and Christian Standhardinger's bad attitude and Joe McCray's bad habit.  The hell with bad contract extensions, if that's what you want to focus on.  Or bad coaches using more than 8 players in the rotation.

 

Those demons have been exorcised.  Done.  Dead.  Gone.  No more talk of "next year."  We finally have the possibilities and success of this year to celebrate.  And if you're telling me that you're adopting Miles' comments and telling me to save those demons for me, you're only admitting that you didn't stick around and cheer during the tough times but that you're a JohnnyOneNut-come-lately who's wandered back now that times are good.

 

That's nice and all.  But I've had to endure those demons because I've been here all along.

What I find ironic is fans bemoaning the demons yet three years ago still supporting Doc.

I will adopt Miles comments because they are cold hard truths. Feel free to continue to try and put me in a box, but I've been a season ticket holder since the "Sit Down Norm" days. Now I have to come the forum to say it, sadly.

[hal9000]

Exorcism not complete until first NCAA game won. However, we definitely have the demon's attention now.

I think I agree jimmy.  But we've exorcised a 15 year demon to be sure. 

 

I did really find it interesting when Chubick made the statement that he wouldn't trade a first round win in the NCAA Tourney for winning the Big 8 Tourney in '94.  Two wins, probably.

 

I almost think I agree with that as well.

[Norm Peterson]

It's no surprise, Johnny, but you've completely missed the point.

[JohnnyOneNut]

It's no surprise, Johnny, but you've completely missed the point.

I got it, and my response was my first sentence .

Question for you. The "demons that were exorcised"...who's were they specifically? You said "ours" but obviously Miles doesn't agree with you.

[Norm Peterson]

 

It's no surprise, Johnny, but you've completely missed the point.

I got it, and my response was my first sentence .

Question for you. The "demons that were exorcised"...who's were they specifically? You said "ours" but obviously Miles doesn't agree with you.

 

I'm not speaking for Miles.  I'm speaking as a fan.

[JohnnyOneNut]

It's no surprise, Johnny, but you've completely missed the point.

I got it, and my response was my first sentence .

Question for you. The "demons that were exorcised"...who's were they specifically? You said "ours" but obviously Miles doesn't agree with you.

I'm not speaking for Miles.  I'm speaking as a fan.

Then my response stands. You save those demons for you.

I'm also speaking as a fan, and I'm not going to blindly refer to previous ineptitude as demons or failure "to get a lucky bounce"

[Norm Peterson]

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this stuff out, Johnny.  Just a fan who's been around awhile.  Miles hasn't experienced it and I don't expect him to own it at all.  But those of us who've been there know and understand.  And it is impossible to argue that this fan base hasn't felt a little snake bit over the years.   You want to know what demons?  Here's a post from last spring in the thread "Concerning Tai Tweet" in which I explained to a new poster from New Zealand why we, as a fan base, might get a little concerned about Tai Webster saying he was having trouble with getting his test scores:

 

 

Posted 07 May 2013 - 08:52 AM

OK, so I was thinking about what I posted above regarding feeling snake bit with recruiting and JUST IN THE LAST TEN YEARS ...

 

• 2005  Our top recruit -- maybe the best we'd had in a while -- is released from his signed Letter of Intent to attend a school closer to home due to ill health of his mother (Will Harris.)
• 2006  Our top recruit meets all apparent initial eligibility requirements but NCAA Clearinghouse mysteriously refuses to clear him and he has to disenroll from Nebraska to attend a junior college (Roburt Sallie.)
• 2007  One of our top recruits (said to have NBA potential) suddenly drops out of his junior college rendering him ineligible to attend Nebraska.  He ends up playing professionally overseas instead (Rishawn Norwood.)
• 2008  Our top recruit from 2006 recommits to Nebraska after graduating from his juco but an obscure and previously unheard of Big 12 rule prevents him from ever enrolling at Nebraska and he's forced to attend Memphis instead.
• 2008  One of our top big man recruits is ruled ineligible for a year because members of his German club team were paid more than expenses (Christopher Niemann.)
• 2008  Our top big man recruit checks the wrong block on his Nebraska admissions application and the Admissions Department refuses to enroll him until he passes an English language proficiency examination, which prevents him from enrolling and joining the team until second semester, thereby forcing him to redshirt (Jorge Brian Diaz.)
• 2008-2009  One of our top big man recruits transfers from his high school to a prep school but, because of some transfer issue, is ruled ineligible at his prep school, cannot return to his high school, and is forced to enroll in a juco, which means he cannot attend Nebraska for another 2 years when he would graduate from juco (and then only have 2 seasons of eligibility remaining (Vander Joaquim.))
• 2009  One of our top recruits is ruled ineligible for the first 15 games of his freshman season due to playing on a German club team in which some of the other players were paid (Christian Standhardinger.)
• 2009  After sitting out a year because of an NCAA ruling on his eligibility (during which he showed a lot of promise), one of our top big man recruits blows out a knee and has to miss another year.  Then, appears to rush his return and blows out a knee again, virtually ending his career or at least any chance of making meaningful contributions to the team (Christopher Niemann.)
• 2012  Due to a bookstore theft scandal of some sort, the juco team of our top big man recruit dismisses all but a couple of their players and forfeits the remainder of their season, placing his eligibility in doubt and (likely) causes Coach Miles to release him from his Letter of Intent (Fahro Alihodzic.)

That would be enough to make any fanbase a little paranoid when it comes to recruiting.

[jsthusker]

 

 

It's no surprise, Johnny, but you've completely missed the point.

I got it, and my response was my first sentence .

Question for you. The "demons that were exorcised"...who's were they specifically? You said "ours" but obviously Miles doesn't agree with you.

 

I'm not speaking for Miles.  I'm speaking as a fan.

 

+1

[Norm Peterson]

 

 

 

It's no surprise, Johnny, but you've completely missed the point.

I got it, and my response was my first sentence .

Question for you. The "demons that were exorcised"...who's were they specifically? You said "ours" but obviously Miles doesn't agree with you.

I'm not speaking for Miles.  I'm speaking as a fan.

Then my response stands. You save those demons for you.

I'm also speaking as a fan, and I'm not going to blindly refer to previous ineptitude as demons or failure "to get a lucky bounce"

 

WTF are you even talking about?  I made a mistake even responding to you, Brad. 

[atskooc]

 

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this stuff out, Johnny.  Just a fan who's been around awhile.  Miles hasn't experienced it and I don't expect him to own it at all.  But those of us who've been there know and understand.  And it is impossible to argue that this fan base hasn't felt a little snake bit over the years.   You want to know what demons?  Here's a post from last spring in the thread "Concerning Tai Tweet" in which I explained to a new poster from New Zealand why we, as a fan base, might get a little concerned about Tai Webster saying he was having trouble with getting his test scores:

 

 

Posted 07 May 2013 - 08:52 AM

OK, so I was thinking about what I posted above regarding feeling snake bit with recruiting and JUST IN THE LAST TEN YEARS ...

 

• 2005  Our top recruit -- maybe the best we'd had in a while -- is released from his signed Letter of Intent to attend a school closer to home due to ill health of his mother (Will Harris.)
• 2006  Our top recruit meets all apparent initial eligibility requirements but NCAA Clearinghouse mysteriously refuses to clear him and he has to disenroll from Nebraska to attend a junior college (Roburt Sallie.)
• 2007  One of our top recruits (said to have NBA potential) suddenly drops out of his junior college rendering him ineligible to attend Nebraska.  He ends up playing professionally overseas instead (Rishawn Norwood.)
• 2008  Our top recruit from 2006 recommits to Nebraska after graduating from his juco but an obscure and previously unheard of Big 12 rule prevents him from ever enrolling at Nebraska and he's forced to attend Memphis instead.
• 2008  One of our top big man recruits is ruled ineligible for a year because members of his German club team were paid more than expenses (Christopher Niemann.)
• 2008  Our top big man recruit checks the wrong block on his Nebraska admissions application and the Admissions Department refuses to enroll him until he passes an English language proficiency examination, which prevents him from enrolling and joining the team until second semester, thereby forcing him to redshirt (Jorge Brian Diaz.)
• 2008-2009  One of our top big man recruits transfers from his high school to a prep school but, because of some transfer issue, is ruled ineligible at his prep school, cannot return to his high school, and is forced to enroll in a juco, which means he cannot attend Nebraska for another 2 years when he would graduate from juco (and then only have 2 seasons of eligibility remaining (Vander Joaquim.))
• 2009  One of our top recruits is ruled ineligible for the first 15 games of his freshman season due to playing on a German club team in which some of the other players were paid (Christian Standhardinger.)
• 2009  After sitting out a year because of an NCAA ruling on his eligibility (during which he showed a lot of promise), one of our top big man recruits blows out a knee and has to miss another year.  Then, appears to rush his return and blows out a knee again, virtually ending his career or at least any chance of making meaningful contributions to the team (Christopher Niemann.)
• 2012  Due to a bookstore theft scandal of some sort, the juco team of our top big man recruit dismisses all but a couple of their players and forfeits the remainder of their season, placing his eligibility in doubt and (likely) causes Coach Miles to release him from his Letter of Intent (Fahro Alihodzic.)

That would be enough to make any fanbase a little paranoid when it comes to recruiting.

 

So, winning last night means we won't have any more unforeseen issues (i.e. demons) with recruiting?

[Norm Peterson]

Are there really, seriously, fans on this message board who don't feel like a weight has been lifted from our collective shoulders?

[JohnnyOneNut]

Are there really, seriously, fans on this message board who don't feel like a weight has been lifted from our collective shoulders?

I only felt excitement, satisfaction and pride in Huskers (program, players, staff). Also, a bit of justification as I've known this was a program that could win with the right coach. I've never felt "cursed".

[atskooc]

Are there really, seriously, fans on this message board who don't feel like a weight has been lifted from our collective shoulders?

I'm not sure I'd quite call it that, Norm.

 

I was jumping around my living room last night, but I never felt a burden being a Nebraska basketball fan.  Nothing needed "lifted."

 

The closest thing I can think that might work for me in that sense would be when we finally win an NCAA tourney game. 

 

We've had a crappy 15 years, for sure.  But I don't think anything was "lifted" last night.  At least not for me.

[Norm Peterson]

atskooc, recruiting has been far from the only kind of "demon" we've experienced as a program. 

 

How about blowing a 20 point lead and losing at home to Texas A&M on a last-second shot where a win would have probably gotten us on top of the NCAA bubble?

 

In the quoted post, those were just about recruiting but I can come up with illustrations of this program's futility over the last 15 (or more) years all day long if you want me to. 

 

How about 2006 when we were set to hire Rick Majerus but then Collier had the gall to win two games in the Big 12 tournament and we couldn't pull off firing him.  So then, after the season ended, all of his assistants jump ship (OK, Spinelli at least) and Collier cannot find anyone willing to come in and replace him.  Remember that?  We ended up frickin' hiring Jamel White's uncle because we couldn't find anyone legitimate who was willing to take the job.  And then Aleks Maric declared for the NBA draft.  I mean, talk about a low point.

 

I don't get how people are arguing this point.  Last night, we got bounces.  Last night, we got some calls.  Finally. 

[Norm Peterson]

Demons? Is this what we are now blaming poor coaching, poor recruiting and disasterous contract extensions on? No no no.

 

Norm, I will modify Coach Miles comment yesterday to respond..."You save those demons for you"

 

(his actual quote was "You save that baggage for you, don't put that crap on me" (great quote btw))

Only someone like bradguru could turn this discussion into what it's become. 

[Norm Peterson]

 

Posted Today, 12:18 PM

HuskerHoopscentral has been great.  Been a diehard husker hoops fan for 20 years and a season ticket holder for 8.  Nice to read posts from people who share my enthusiasm for the program.  Until recently when the bandwagoners joined in it was hard to find anyone who would call themselves a big time Nebrasketball fan.  WE HAVE ARRIVED!!  After wandering 20 years in the "sucks to be you" desert.

Last night was great.  My 92 grandma, who has had season tickets for 55 years stood next to me the entire game.  Lot of energy spent cheering on the Huskers.  Tired after the game we just sat and watched.  Didn't want it to end.

GO BIG RED!!

Exactly.  I'm astonished that some people don't get this.