Chuck Taylor

Maybe he didn't have the resources for a Final Four, but he certainly had resources for more than one tourney bid in 7 years. I get that people like TM, but I don't understand this need to shift the blame beyond where it lies. He has a D-1 conference winning percentage under .400 in TWELVE years. What on earth says he's a great coach who just needed support?

Yeah, I'm quoting myself from 2016 after reading Jacob Padilla's article. At the time of this post, there was a lot of discussion about missing on Khryi Thomas and Patton and some people on the board were thin skinned about the criticism. That missed the point. The point was that there were kids who could fill out the roster and provide stability. We didn't just "miss" on Thomas and Patton, we also didn't see the value of Thurman, Hagedorn, Chandler, Logan Strom (redshirting at UNO) and a bunch of others. We went years with an empty scholarship that could have gone to one of these guys. Who should we have given a scholarship to? I don't know, that was Miles' job. I think he finally started offering guys because of the embarrassment of the misses, not because he suddenly realized that his recruiting philosophy might have been his undoing. He ended up with a thin roster that a couple of Nebraska kids could have saved.

I know people who say exactly that. They like Miles, he just needs support, they don't want to start over, nobody wants to come here .... Most of them are older and don't like the rabble dictating what the program does. I don't agree with them but respect their views, with the exception that they don't realize how much crowds will shrink next year. We've been filling the seats on expectations the last few years. Take those expectations away (nobody sees Miles getting to the NCAA next year) and people will find excuses not to go to games.

NU 66 PU 63 Simply because it makes no sense.

I think the PSU PU works to our advantage, along with Bardo's comments. Would be greatly disappointed by a lame effort at home. Plus, winning this game and restoking hopes temporarily would be the Nebrasketball thing to do.

Tim has a lot of friends in the media because of his personality and access, as did Doc. Collier was not close to the media, a large reason sports media types are more critical of him despite the similar records of the three.

Exactly, and you only have so much time for practice. What do you not practice in order to practice this and a hundred other scenarios? That's why the second guessing always kills me. Somebody sees what happens, then points a finger and says "see, that's why you don't do that." People who say "you always (foul/don't foul)" when ahead by 2 don't really know what's involved. The coach has to take a chance one way or the other and live with the results.

That says, "I'm a whiny sack of **** and the only way for me to feel better is for Tim to feel bad." Grow up, whoever you are.

It blows my mind that KenPom and Torvik have us 40th in adjusted offensive efficiency. And yet we're 224th in effective shooting %, 211th in 3pt shooting, 213th in 2pt shooting, and 214th in shooting efficiency. And then there's the eye test. ?

I decided to go back and check this, because it seemed to me that most people favored a longer extension last year. In fact, most favored a shorter extension or getting a new coach.

Yes, I respect him more for not benching the seniors.

He's only won about 40 percent of conference games overall, so about the norm. He only won 36% of conference games at Colorado State.

I apologize for switching the discussion to basketball .... I reread this about Watson and began thinking, always a mistake. Glynn came in a highly ranked recruit, and look how he ended up. This might be one of Miles' biggest failures: Glynn never became a point guard to lead a team. Would another coach have played him off ball? Or actually developed him to become a point guard? Or benched him in favor of somebody who would have run the team? Too bad that this is where he ended up. Seems like a great kid, definitely talented, but his career will end in disappointment.

NU 66 UM 57 3

They were set up last year like we were this year. But McIntosh's injury and the lost home-court advantage (during renovation) did them in. Next year is Collins' 7th, so it will be interesting to see how they handle it if he's down again.

I don't look at others' scores, why get further confused? Edited to give us one more point and reduce controversy in this time of turmoil. ?

For comparison's sake, KState gave Tom Asbury had 2 NITs and 1 NCAA in 6 years and was fired. Next up, Jim Wooldrige no tournament appearances and was also gone after 6. He might have lasted a little longer because he inherited a team that went 2-14 in the Big 12. After that, they went with known quantities: Huggins, Martin (an assistant who had recruited their best players) and Weber. KState has more tradition and higher expectations than we do. But we have more resources.

Two things make the fan base exceptional: (1) no pro sports, so total focus, even obsession, on college sports (2) willingness to buy tickets, even for a losing team. So maybe we're the best in purchasing tickets. Regarding behavior, spirit, loyalty etc., there's no way to prove who's the best and to say you are is unbelievably obnoxious. It almost disqualifies you from being the best. I've always wanted to rip down the freakin' sign. The sign is OK, however, it you read it as the being the administration saying to us, "You guys are the best! You still buy tickets even though we frequently disappoint you!"

NU 67 PU 61 Law of averages says we hit 50% of our 3s to make up for the last month. You know what I mean (reversion)?

The best outcome might be an established coach who's worn out his welcome at a good program. He can get away from the noise here, without having to step down to midmajor level. Ben Howland from UCLA to Miss St is the perfect example. That's number 1 for me, followed by (2) throwing obscene amounts of somebody else's money at a big name (3) a midmajor coach who has dominated his league consistently (4) a longtime assistant for a blue blood and (5) a midmajor coach who got hot in March.

I've hit rock bottom in thinking about all this. I'm going to bed.

Well, I tried.

All I'm saying is that Oklahoma finished 18-14 last year with a losing record in the Big 12 and a KenPom rating of 48. Our season isn't necessarily over, unless this team simply is incapable of going at least .500 with an upset or two during its last 8 games. Sorry to provide hope, maybe it's better psychologically for everyone to give up.

Well, the red carpet was laid out for Miles when he arrived: New practice facility and a new arena. For seven years, there's been one man in charge: Miles. Boehm, Eichorst's toupee, Moos, Green, etc. might have done more to help, but it was Miles' job to get this program somewhere higher than it is. I'm fine with supporting Miles based on what he's done, if you believe it's enough, but I just don't understand making excuses and pointing the finger at others. I just don't get that.

I don't think questioning the coach has anything to do with loyalty. We all bleed red. The question is if the program at this level is acceptable to you. For some, it was unacceptable two years ago apparently, which is their right, but they missed out on the enjoyment of last year. I'm not giving up on this season because we did the work in noncon to get us into the NCAA if we can just play decent ball the rest of the way. But for heavens sake, Miles has been here 7 years, if he can't get this team to the NCAA, how can you possibly think he's the long-term solution? If that makes me disloyal, then &%&% it. I also don't feel the need to preface every assessment of the program with "I like Miles ..... ." I don't care one way or the other about whether he's a great guy, I want to win. He gets paid a lot of money, and he knew what was expected of him. If he's out of work, he leaves $millions richer than any of us.