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I think it's different if you're talking about: 1) a team that can attract top-shelf recruits year in and year out; or 2) a team that hopes its seniors are better than the other guy's freshmen and also different if you're talking about: 1) a kid who is raw and athletic with the potential to really develop over time; or 2) a kid whose inability to contribute as a freshman is a reflection of him not being as good as you thought/hoped. A team that relies on developing players and having experienced seniors playing major roles could potentially get a lot out of the 5th season of a kid who comes in raw and athletic but with tremendous upside. Think what kind of player Mikki Moore would have been as a 5th year senior. If you're Kentucky, though, it makes no sense to have a guy take up a spot for 5 seasons. You've paid good money in the SEC for recruits to come in and produce right now. If they can't hold up their end of the deal, let them transfer to Iowa State so you can make room for the next set of 5-star mercenaries recruits. YOU JUST WATCH YOUR MOUTH MISTER!!! Don't make dimes start a new thread over here. AND HE'LL DO IT, TOO!!!

I think it's different if you're talking about: 1) a team that can attract top-shelf recruits year in and year out; or 2) a team that hopes its seniors are better than the other guy's freshmen and also different if you're talking about: 1) a kid who is raw and athletic with the potential to really develop over time; or 2) a kid whose inability to contribute as a freshman is a reflection of him not being as good as you thought/hoped. A team that relies on developing players and having experienced seniors playing major roles could potentially get a lot out of the 5th season of a kid who comes in raw and athletic but with tremendous upside. Think what kind of player Mikki Moore would have been as a 5th year senior. If you're Kentucky, though, it makes no sense to have a guy take up a spot for 5 seasons. You've paid good money in the SEC for recruits to come in and produce right now. If they can't hold up their end of the deal, let them transfer to Iowa State so you can make room for the next set of 5-star mercenaries recruits.

is the sourest of grapesIt's not sour grapes. I said "recruit" as in any player for any sport picking an SEC school over any other program located anywhere in the country. It's a known fact that SEC programs pay/have paid players. I wasn't even speaking in terms of our program and having our prospects choose another school.So, a player choosing an SEC school over any other school in the country (regardless of sport or talent of player) automatically leads you to believe the kid is getting paid? You think it's THAT dirty? Every player in the SEC is getting paid? In every sport?Nope didn't say that either. In fact I said that it probably isn't fair that money and the SEC is brought up. But it does get brought up. Also said that I don't think people on here actually truly believe that money is the sole reason a recruit picks one school over another. Really? You didn't say any player in any sport picking an SEC school was getting paid? Then what exactly did you mean in the above post? Well I don't even know why this matters or remember how this topic popped up in this thread but in a final attempt to explain myself...here we go. I don't have the opinion that every recruit is paid-not even close. Somebody here (I think dimes without retracing the thread) asked if everyone could stop throwing around $EC every time a recruit picked a school in SEC-land. I tried to explain why that wouldn't happen. Basically, it's a joke, the entire SEC and money thing, that gets brought up even though I don't believe that it's anyone's true opinion that it's so dirty that every player is paid. But it is still a fact that some SEC players have been paid. Then I was called out for having sour grapes when I mentioned nothing about any of our recruits or any scenario involving Nebraska. Finally, when I tried explaining that I meant recruit in a generic sense, it got taken that it's my personal opinion that every SEC recruit in every sport is paid. Sorry for the confusion! Prince Ali would be a huge get if Miles can pull it off.

He's a list of "secret scrimmages" being played between now and the start of the season: Oct. 19 Ohio at Xavier North Florida at FAU Stony Brook vs. Central Connecticut State Boston University at Fairfield Utah Valley at Idaho State Western Illinois at Chicago State Sacred Heart at UMass-Lowell Navy at William & Mary Oct. 20 North Carolina vs. Vanderbilt in Memphis Villanova at Maryland San Diego State at Stanford Kansas State at Iowa Seattle at UC Irvine Oct. 25 TCU at Texas A&M Hampton at Richmond Presbyterian at Western Carolina Oct. 26 Baylor vs. Wichita State in Oklahoma City Davidson at Texas West Virginia at Ohio State LSU at Houston Temple at Penn State Colorado State at Long Beach State Nevada at Washington State Wyoming at Utah Indiana State vs. Murray State in Evansville Loyola vs. Green Bay in Milwaukee Arizona State at Saint Mary’s UC Davis at California Florida at Georgia Tech in Valdosta Georgetown at Virginia Bryant at Northeastern Texas Tech at SMU Duquesne at Miami (Ohio) George Mason at Seton Hall LaSalle at Princeton UMass at Harvard VCU at Wake Forest in Greensboro Saint Joseph’s at Boston College Marist at Fordham George Washington vs. Drexel at Temple La Salle at Princeton Charlotte at Clemson Loyola (Md.) at Delaware Stony Brook at Yale Jacksonville at Charleston Southern Citadel at North Florida Columbia at Lafayette St. Bonaventure at Kent State LIU-Post at Monmouth Rider at LIU UIC at IPFW Wright State at Toledo Hartford at Brown Cornell at Buffalo Montana State at Utah Valley State Northern Arizona vs. Cal State Fullerton in Las Vegas Portland State at Seattle Sacramento State at San Francisco UC Riverside at Cal Baptist Loyola Marymount at Cal State Northridge Hawaii at BYU-Hawaii Mount St. Mary's at Coppin State VMI at St. Francis (NY) Lehigh at Wagner Youngstown State at Bucknell UMass-Lowell at Holy Cross Pepperdine at Cal State Bakersfield SIU-Edwardsville at UMKC Northern Illinois at Chicago State Northwestern State at McNeese UTA vs. Southeastern Louisiana in Shreveport Furman at UNC-Asheville Winthrop at UNC Greensboro Oct. 27 Iowa State at Creighton St. Peter’s at Rutgers South Florida at Miami Northern Colorado at Air Force South Dakota at Drake Illinois State at Marquette UAB at Mississippi State South Carolina at Virginia Tech Arkansas-Little Rock at Ole Miss South Dakota State at Nebraska Manhattan at URI James Madison at Navy Middle Tennessee at Alabama Albany at Iona UNH at Quinnipiac Georgia Southern at Mercer Penn at Hofstra Florida Southern at Florida Gulf Coast Bryant at Northeastern Oct. 29 Southern at Nicholls Oct. 30 Harvard at Providence Colorado-Mesa at Southern Utah UC Santa Barbara at USC Oct. 31 Tusculum at Western Carolina Nov. 1 Mercer at Georgia Marshall at Eastern Kentucky Lynn at Florida Gulf Coast Randolph Macon at Mount St. Mary's Southeastern Louisiana at Louisiana-Monroe Nov. 2 Baylor vs. Memphis in Ruston, Louis. Gonzaga vs. Texas in Phoenix Temple at Drexel San Francisco at Arizona State Portland at Washington Wisconsin at DePaul Virginia at Marquette George Mason at Georgetown Northwestern at Saint Louis SMU at Colorado Arizona at Saint Mary’s Iona at St. Joseph’s Richmond at Virginia Tech Northeastern at Boston College Charleston at East Carolina Temple at Drexel NJIT at Binghamton Marist at Albany Merrimack at UNH Jacksonville at Bethune-Cookman Quinnipiac at Columbia Bucknell at Penn Princeton at Lehigh Yale at Boston University Quinnipiac at Columbia St. Francis (NY) at St. Peter's Cleveland State at Central Michigan Hartford vs. Lafayette Army at Cornell UMBC at Stevenson Northern Colorado vs. Nebraska-Omaha in North Platte, Neb. San Diego at Long Beach State Dartmouth vs. Central Connecticut at UMass Kent State at Robert Morris Sacred Heart at NJIT St. Francis (Pa.) at VMI Brown at Colgate Nov. 3 Morgan State at Delaware Norfolk State at Old Dominion Tulsa at New Mexico State UT Arlington at Northwestern State

They're secret, because as far as the schools are concerned they never happened. They aren't allowed to make any sort of comments, release stats, etc. Regarding my avatar, I have quite the story for you. First of all, my avatar comes from a sign I made and took to the February 2nd Ohio State game last season. Fast forward to August. my friends and I were guests at the Eaton-Abdouche wedding (Gregory Eaton is the Nebrasketball video coordinator), along with Tim Miles and a few other assistant coaches. Kiley (the bride) assigned us to the table right next to Miles' at the reception, knowing we'd be pretty psyched to sit that close to him. About half way through the reception Pat Norris (Nebraska equipment manager) goes over and shows Miles a picture of my sign on his phone. A couple of minutes later Miles walks up to our table, holds the phone up and says, "Alright, I wanna know who's responsible for this." I raise my hand. He then asks what prompted me to create something like that. So I give him the back story, explaining that it comes from his persona when he's either barking at a player or the officials. I tell him that in the heat of the moment he sort of resembles a little rat terrier, which he gets a pretty good kick out of. He then shakes my hand, and thanks us all for being supporters of the program. Then, just before walking away, he looks at me and says, "From the bottom of my heart, fuck you." Well all, including Miles, bust out in side splitting laughter as he meanders back to his table. From there we proceeded to get even more drunk, thanks to the open bar, and a good time was had by all.

It's not a poster.. Which one of the Miles kids do I owe an apology to?

It's not a poster..

Seriously can we keep this thread to recruiting discussion of Prince Ali? I don't care about this other crap. Go make a thread about it if you want to discuss it.

KNTK - Morning Take: Tim Miles talks Nebrasketball http://theticketfm.com/media/com_podcastmanager/MorningShow/10-15_2nd.mp3

Can we cut it with all the money innuendo every time we don't win the recruiting battle with an SEC team?

This seems like a nice try at spin. Creighton certainly didn't get worse. In fact, the Nebraska game was one of its worst scoring nights of the year and the team couldn't shoot in the first half (I think the figure was around 35%, which for a team that led the entire nation in shooting percentage, was remarkably horrid). Further, one could legitimately argue about the extent of Nebraska's improvement afterward as well because there were several games where Nebraska played worse or just as poorly, sometimes against lesser opponents or opponents that Creighton had already beaten. Nebraska ended the year ranked 335 out of something like 345 schools when it comes to scoring offense, so I'd say that statistically, Nebraska's performance that game was right in line with their performance for the entire season against ranked teams. I know Norm likes to emphasize Echenique when talking about last year's game, but the real problem was that Nebraska couldn't shoot, even missing several wide open jumpers at times (after Peltz's first airball, Creighton didn't even try to defend him and he still went 0-fer on the few times he even tried to shoot). When you shoot 33% for the game (25% from three including a stunning 18% in the first half) and you do not have many guys capable of driving the basketball to draw fouls, you will get blown out more times than not. Truth be told, that was Nebraska's problem all of last year, not just in the Creighton game, and the season statistics bear that out. I certainly expect Nebraska to be better this year. From a scoring perspective, it is almost literally impossible to be worse (only about 10 teams were). You obviously lost any and all credibility by not thinking Nebraska improved during the season. You have said a lot of idiotic things, but this just shows you really don't have a clue. You really do not belong on a Nebraska basketball board with this level of stupidity on the subject. I didn't spin anything.