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trickey
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I don't know about that...I remember a young lady that took me behind the woodshed and showed me a plenty good time!

Bugeaters1
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Just remember that when you start in how bad erstad is and blah blah blah. Oh and I know you call em as you see em. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

HB
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4-0 in the 9th and Roeder has a bad outing; we hang on to win 4-3.  An upset tomorrow could really help the RPI.

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NU Falls to 9-14 in the Big Ten. I guess this is what happens when the genius AD decides to hire a guy who has zero experience coaching?

 

Wow, a revelation that you feel that way.  Beat a dead horse much?  I can only surmise that the time of day reflected some booze posting which brings out your Osborne bashing once again.   Your posts of the last few days make legitimate concerns about the state of the program, but they are undermined by your ongoing Osborne contempt.  Could make one think that you had an axe to grind from day one.  And FYI, this wasn't the first hire in history of a coach without coaching experience.  Happens at the highest levels.  See, Jason Kidd, Derek Fischer, and other numerous examples in college and pro sports.  The Erstad hire may or may not work out, but it doesn't mean your premise is correct.    

huskerbaseball13

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NU Falls to 9-14 in the Big Ten. I guess this is what happens when the genius AD decides to hire a guy who has zero experience coaching?

Wow, a revelation that you feel that way. Beat a dead horse much? I can only surmise that the time of day reflected some booze posting which brings out your Osborne bashing once again. Your posts of the last few days make legitimate concerns about the state of the program, but they are undermined by your ongoing Osborne contempt. Could make one think that you had an axe to grind from day one. And FYI, this wasn't the first hire in history of a coach without coaching experience. Happens at the highest levels. See, Jason Kidd, Derek Fischer, and other numerous examples in college and pro sports. The Erstad hire may or may not work out, but it doesn't mean your premise is correct.

Do you really think hiring a first time coach at the pro level is the same as hiring a first time coach at the college level...who was out of the college game for what, 15 years? It has nothing to do with Osborne, I would make the same comments if Eichorst hired him. I don't think the job should have been given to who loves Nebraska the most....and who would be here the longest. Rather, the job have been given to the best candidate. Judging by Osborne's comments when he hired Erstad..and recently seeing a national college baseball writer say Nebraska is one of the best non SEC jobs leads me to believe we probably could have done better. Maybe Erstad will adjust with added experience? Maybe not...and by that time Alex Gordon or Tony Watson will be retired and can take over.
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NU Falls to 9-14 in the Big Ten. I guess this is what happens when the genius AD decides to hire a guy who has zero experience coaching?

Wow, a revelation that you feel that way. Beat a dead horse much? I can only surmise that the time of day reflected some booze posting which brings out your Osborne bashing once again. Your posts of the last few days make legitimate concerns about the state of the program, but they are undermined by your ongoing Osborne contempt. Could make one think that you had an axe to grind from day one. And FYI, this wasn't the first hire in history of a coach without coaching experience. Happens at the highest levels. See, Jason Kidd, Derek Fischer, and other numerous examples in college and pro sports. The Erstad hire may or may not work out, but it doesn't mean your premise is correct.

Do you really think hiring a first time coach at the pro level is the same as hiring a first time coach at the college level...who was out of the college game for what, 15 years? It has nothing to do with Osborne, I would make the same comments if Eichorst hired him. I don't think the job should have been given to who loves Nebraska the most....and who would be here the longest. Rather, the job have been given to the best candidate. Judging by Osborne's comments when he hired Erstad..and recently seeing a national college baseball writer say Nebraska is one of the best non SEC jobs leads me to believe we probably could have done better. Maybe Erstad will adjust with added experience? Maybe not...and by that time Alex Gordon or Tony Watson will be retired and can take over.

 

 

Despite your protests, your comments over time on the various boards here suggest its actually about Osborne.  And the sarcastic and disrespectful tone of a 12:30 a.m. post suggests it as well.    Knowing who the "best candidate" was who we could actually get to come here is an art not a science.  Lots of things go into it and it's not only about the one factor you have beat into the ground for 4 years.  We had a huge amount of college baseball  experience on the staff with Bolt and Silva.    Mike Anderson had years of college baseball experience and he ran the program into the ditch.  Erstad has done considerably better than him. Barry Collier had college head coaching experience and it was a terrible hire (at least with the benefit of hindsight).

 

 If this one doesn't work out, you can say "told you so", but a lot of hires by ADs in all sports at all places don't work out, involving coaches with various levels of experience.  I disagree with your view that this hire was destined for failure because Erstad didn't have college coaching experience.  

huskerbaseball13

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NU Falls to 9-14 in the Big Ten. I guess this is what happens when the genius AD decides to hire a guy who has zero experience coaching?

Wow, a revelation that you feel that way. Beat a dead horse much? I can only surmise that the time of day reflected some booze posting which brings out your Osborne bashing once again. Your posts of the last few days make legitimate concerns about the state of the program, but they are undermined by your ongoing Osborne contempt. Could make one think that you had an axe to grind from day one. And FYI, this wasn't the first hire in history of a coach without coaching experience. Happens at the highest levels. See, Jason Kidd, Derek Fischer, and other numerous examples in college and pro sports. The Erstad hire may or may not work out, but it doesn't mean your premise is correct.
Do you really think hiring a first time coach at the pro level is the same as hiring a first time coach at the college level...who was out of the college game for what, 15 years? It has nothing to do with Osborne, I would make the same comments if Eichorst hired him. I don't think the job should have been given to who loves Nebraska the most....and who would be here the longest. Rather, the job have been given to the best candidate. Judging by Osborne's comments when he hired Erstad..and recently seeing a national college baseball writer say Nebraska is one of the best non SEC jobs leads me to believe we probably could have done better. Maybe Erstad will adjust with added experience? Maybe not...and by that time Alex Gordon or Tony Watson will be retired and can take over.

Despite your protests, your comments over time on the various boards here suggest its actually about Osborne. And the sarcastic and disrespectful tone of a 12:30 a.m. post suggests it as well. Knowing who the "best candidate" was who we could actually get to come here is an art not a science. Lots of things go into it and it's not only about the one factor you have beat into the ground for 4 years. We had a huge amount of college baseball experience on the staff with Bolt and Silva. Mike Anderson had years of college baseball experience and he ran the program into the ditch. Erstad has done considerably better than him. Barry Collier had college head coaching experience and it was a terrible hire (at least with the benefit of hindsight).

If this one doesn't work out, you can say "told you so", but a lot of hires by ADs in all sports at all places don't work out, involving coaches with various levels of experience. I disagree with your view that this hire was destined for failure because Erstad didn't have college coaching experience.

I've never stated Erstad is destined for failure because he had zero experience. I have stated however that I think we could have done better. And he really hasn't done anything to make me think differently nor would I call zero hardware...in a weaker baseball conference and 1 regional win "considerably" better than what Anderson did. Maybe this team will snap out of it at the Big Ten tournament. But you're right...the hire is over and done with. I'll keep going to games in hopes that Erstad will eventually build a winner.
royalfan

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NU Falls to 9-14 in the Big Ten. I guess this is what happens when the genius AD decides to hire a guy who has zero experience coaching?

Your tune has changed big time.  Earlier this year you though Erstad had us on track to have as good a chance as anyone in the nation. That seemed incredibly overreactionary to a hot streak.  This seems to be overreaction the other way to a bad stretch of baseball. 

huskerbaseball13

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NU Falls to 9-14 in the Big Ten. I guess this is what happens when the genius AD decides to hire a guy who has zero experience coaching?

Your tune has changed big time. Earlier this year you though Erstad had us on track to have as good a chance as anyone in the nation. That seemed incredibly overreactionary to a hot streak. This seems to be overreaction the other way to a bad stretch of baseball.
I stated our pitching was deep enough for us to make a run in June. That hasn't changed. But I never imagined we would have one of the worst offenses in the Big Ten. With even just a mediocre offense this team could have been in contention for a top 16 seed.
The Polish Rifle

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Other teams in the conf hired baseball coaches that are proven to be good. Rick Heller is a heck of a baseball coach, so is Eric Bakich and Hartleb. If Silva and the pitching staff doesn't bail us out this year were probably sitting at .500 and having a discussion about a future job opening.

 

The fact of the matter is we have the best facilities, fan support, and recent success in the entire conf., having the 5-6th best coach in the conf is just unacceptable. We have the money/resources to get a top guy here, but just flat didn't do it.

HB

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Other teams in the conf hired baseball coaches that are proven to be good. Rick Heller is a heck of a baseball coach, so is Eric Bakich and Hartleb. If Silva and the pitching staff doesn't bail us out this year were probably sitting at .500 and having a discussion about a future job opening.

 

The fact of the matter is we have the best facilities, fan support, and recent success in the entire conf., having the 5-6th best coach in the conf is just unacceptable. We have the money/resources to get a top guy here, but just flat didn't do it.

 

All speculation.  It wasn't that great of a job at the time. Other than a 5 year stretch, years and years of futility.   Switching conferences which caused many coaches to think it would be a recruiting wasteland.   As it turned out, the rest of the conference chose to compete, by upgrading facilities, changing coaches, increasing budgets.  But that wasn't a given then.  Just as we have seen in football and basketball, facilities and fan base alone doesn't mean you can hire anyone you want, or recruit with the SEC.  O'Conner wasn't coming here when we hired Erstad.  He just wasn't.  

Easy for us to sit on the sidelines and presume Osborne could have hired anyone he wanted to the tundra that is the Big 10.   But I don't think that was the case at the time.  None of us know who we contacted, and what interest there was in the job.

 

The coaches you cite look good now, but it wasn't like they were huge names then.    People make it sound like we voluntarily chose to be in this situation and the hire was a complete failure.  It's looking grim now, but we had immediate improvement under Ersty, and have accomplished way more than we had in the 3 years before he got the job.  

The Polish Rifle

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Other teams in the conf hired baseball coaches that are proven to be good. Rick Heller is a heck of a baseball coach, so is Eric Bakich and Hartleb. If Silva and the pitching staff doesn't bail us out this year were probably sitting at .500 and having a discussion about a future job opening.

 

The fact of the matter is we have the best facilities, fan support, and recent success in the entire conf., having the 5-6th best coach in the conf is just unacceptable. We have the money/resources to get a top guy here, but just flat didn't do it.

 

All speculation.  It wasn't that great of a job at the time. Other than a 5 year stretch, years and years of futility.   Switching conferences which caused many coaches to think it would be a recruiting wasteland.   As it turned out, the rest of the conference chose to compete, by upgrading facilities, changing coaches, increasing budgets.  But that wasn't a given then.  Just as we have seen in football and basketball, facilities and fan base alone doesn't mean you can hire anyone you want, or recruit with the SEC.  O'Conner wasn't coming here when we hired Erstad.  He just wasn't.  

Easy for us to sit on the sidelines and presume Osborne could have hired anyone he wanted to the tundra that is the Big 10.   But I don't think that was the case at the time.  None of us know who we contacted, and what interest there was in the job.

 

The coaches you cite look good now, but it wasn't like they were huge names then.    People make it sound like we voluntarily chose to be in this situation and the hire was a complete failure.  It's looking grim now, but we had immediate improvement under Ersty, and have accomplished way more than we had in the 3 years before he got the job.  

 

 

Top guy may have been hyperbole. O'Connor was never on the table as well, that's obvious. All I'm saying is we could have gotten a proven guy who has had success other than a total question mark with one year of coaching experience. And sure we have had some improvement since Mike Anderson left, but 9-14 in the B1G is not close to where this program should be in year 4. Looking at whats coming back next year, I dont think we will see much improvement either. I hope I'm wrong.

HB

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We are due for a run. How many do we need to win to get back on the bubble or just get in?

 

Need to win the tournament.  Would be shocked to see that happen.

AuroranHusker

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We are due for a run. How many do we need to win to get back on the bubble or just get in?

 

Need to win the tournament.  Would be shocked to see that happen.

 

 

As HB stated, all of 'em. Beating Illinois tomorrow would be a great start to the B1G tournament. Huskers did play Illini even for the last 13 innings (12 runs apiece) of the weekend (incl the 4-inn Sunday non-game).

Silverbacked1

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Illinois will not win this tournament nor will they get out of their own bracket.

Had them beat and the guy behind the plate calls a ball on a pitch he had been calling a strike all night. it wasn't a strike all night but he had been calling it.

Not saying that lost it, but...;)

Bugeaters1

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Illinois will not win this tournament nor will they get out of their own bracket.

Had them beat and the guy behind the plate calls a ball on a pitch he had been calling a strike all night. it wasn't a strike all night but he had been calling it.

Not saying that lost it, but... ;)

And the pitcher even thought it was a ball with the little dance that he did before the call.

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