Hooper Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Robin Washut said yesterday that Matthew is leaning toward Nebraska but that his mentor wants him to go to Auburn. I fail to see how Atewe choosing Auburn, based on what Matthew himself has said, suggests that the decision was truly his. AAU coaches around the country are routinely paid money to steer their players to certain schools. It's a very shady business, and I'm always cynical about these situations, especially when you have an AAU coach steering a player to a college that seems like a clearly inferior choice. I'm biased, of course, but if you asked me, for example, to think up some reasons why Charlotte would be a good choice for Matthew, I could give you those reasons. There's a reasonable argument there. However, if you pointed a gun at my head and told me I'd only survive if I could construct a legitimate argument for picking Auburn over Nebraska, you'd have to shoot me. Aside from better weather and better chicken fingers, I can't figure out why Auburn is a better choice than Nebraska or a place an AAU coach would try to steer a player if he weren't getting some personal gain from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKamdyMan Posted March 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 His team Canada coach is coaching the world team at the hoops summit. Roy Rana has even recently been tweeting atewe about his commitment. Should he choose Nebraska ill try and catch up with him and get a coaches perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKamdyMan Posted March 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Hooper he plays aau for CIA bounce an all Canada team featuring four 5* players and several 4* players which includes Andrew wiggins the number one player. I doubt he's getting paid on atewe over his other studs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebrasketball10 Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Robin Washut said yesterday that Matthew is leaning toward Nebraska but that his mentor wants him to go to Auburn. I fail to see how Atewe choosing Auburn, based on what Matthew himself has said, suggests that the decision was truly his. AAU coaches around the country are routinely paid money to steer their players to certain schools. It's a very shady business, and I'm always cynical about these situations, especially when you have an AAU coach steering a player to a college that seems like a clearly inferior choice. I'm biased, of course, but if you asked me, for example, to think up some reasons why Charlotte would be a good choice for Matthew, I could give you those reasons. There's a reasonable argument there. However, if you pointed a gun at my head and told me I'd only survive if I could construct a legitimate argument for picking Auburn over Nebraska, you'd have to shoot me. Aside from better weather and better chicken fingers, I can't figure out why Auburn is a better choice than Nebraska or a place an AAU coach would try to steer a player if he weren't getting some personal gain from it. And what Washut says is Gospel? Was this a quote from Atewe? Even if it was, Washut also said that Atewe had narrowed his decision to Auburn and Nebraska, which Atewe quickly said was incorrect. Even if Atewe told Washut that, it's very common for kids to not want to let people down and try to make everyone happy. It could just be lip service. There's no way I would pick currently pick Auburn over Nebraska, either. But I supposed they could use the same argument that every other major conference school (except Northwester) could use over us - at least SOME successful history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Kamdy, what you're saying makes sense, and I have no info here to substantiate shady dealings, but I'm a big believer in the old saying that 9 times out of 10, when something doesn't make sense or seem right, money is responsible. You have a mentor here advising his player to pick Auburn over a resurgent Nebraska program in the best conference in the country, with a new arena, new facilities, a great coaching staff, a ton of excitement, etc. What do you think this mentor is telling MA when he says he believes he should go to Auburn? Somehow I don't believe my chicken finger argument really carries that much weight, so what is it? Hell, it might not be about money, but it's about something external. It could be about friendships. This mentor holds his U.S. camp each year in Atlanta. Atlanta just happens to be a one-hour drive from Auburn University. Don't you think Auburn comes up to scout his camp each year? There may be a personal relationship there between the mentor and the AU staff, so it may not be about something shady like money. It could just be a case of a guy trying to take care of his friends. Who knows? All I know is that there's no logical argument I can think of to steer a player to Auburn over Nebraska for basketball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Belcher Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 I must tip my hat to Mr. Atewe with the drama he has stirred up for his decision. Well played, sir. Look at all the Husker fans you have worked up. greymonkey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Robin Washut said yesterday that Matthew is leaning toward Nebraska but that his mentor wants him to go to Auburn. I fail to see how Atewe choosing Auburn, based on what Matthew himself has said, suggests that the decision was truly his. AAU coaches around the country are routinely paid money to steer their players to certain schools. It's a very shady business, and I'm always cynical about these situations, especially when you have an AAU coach steering a player to a college that seems like a clearly inferior choice. I'm biased, of course, but if you asked me, for example, to think up some reasons why Charlotte would be a good choice for Matthew, I could give you those reasons. There's a reasonable argument there. However, if you pointed a gun at my head and told me I'd only survive if I could construct a legitimate argument for picking Auburn over Nebraska, you'd have to shoot me. Aside from better weather and better chicken fingers, I can't figure out why Auburn is a better choice than Nebraska or a place an AAU coach would try to steer a player if he weren't getting some personal gain from it. And what Washut says is Gospel? Was this a quote from Atewe? Even if it was, Washut also said that Atewe had narrowed his decision to Auburn and Nebraska, which Atewe quickly said was incorrect. Even if Atewe told Washut that, it's very common for kids to not want to let people down and try to make everyone happy. It could just be lip service. There's no way I would pick currently pick Auburn over Nebraska, either. But I supposed they could use the same argument that every other major conference school (except Northwester) could use over us - at least SOME successful history. My opinion is that Matthew has a habit of telling the media things that he wishes he had phrased differently or omitted, and, when he later realizes it, he says they took him out of context, put words in his mouth, or something like that. It's a pattern that keeps repeating itself. I'm pretty certain he told those guys he was down to Auburn and Nebraska, and then realized the ramifications of that (perhaps he didn't tell Charlotte and Nevada), so he backtracked and said they put words in his mouth. This is highly unlikely. Brian Rosenthal has been doing this for a long time now. Then, yesterday, Washut posted about how Matthew told him he preferred Nebraska but that his mentor wanted him at Auburn. Of course, after it was published, Atewe accused them of taking him out of context. Give me a break! So, which is more likely, that we have a kid here who tends to open his mouth and say stuff he later regrets, or two incompetent media guys who just can't seem to get their stories straight? I'll go with option #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 For those that follow Husker football recruiting, Tre'vell Dixon is a prime example of a player ultimately going where he wanted and not where others wanted him to. Hopefully Atewe does the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Hooper he plays aau for CIA bounce an all Canada team featuring four 5* players and several 4* players which includes Andrew wiggins the number one player. I doubt he's getting paid on atewe over his other studs. If he's getting paid he might get paid more for them, but it doesn't mean he can't get paid for Atewe too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49r Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 I think we're at a distinct disadvantage here since we're an adidas school and Auburn is with....uh, oh wait...Auburn isn't with Nike either? greymonkey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Belcher Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 I think we're at a distinct disadvantage here since we're an adidas school and Auburn is with....uh, oh wait...Auburn isn't with Nike either?Under Armour vs adidas The battle of the second tier shoe companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 For those that follow Husker football recruiting, Tre'vell Dixon is a prime example of a player ultimately going where he wanted and not where others wanted him to. Hopefully Atewe does the same thing. Each situation is different. Dixon had different people pulling him in different directions and ultimately went where he wanted. Braylon Heard is a great example of how much sway these mentor types can have over kids. The real reason he decided to leave Nebraska was that an assistant coach at Cardinal Mooney HS, Chris Amill, is looking for a college GA position and basically brainwashed Heard into believing he needed to look elsewhere. Amill is trying to use Heard as a bargaining chip to land a GA position. He doesn't give a crap about what's best for Braylon. This type of stuff goes on all the time, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebrasketball10 Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Robin Washut said yesterday that Matthew is leaning toward Nebraska but that his mentor wants him to go to Auburn. I fail to see how Atewe choosing Auburn, based on what Matthew himself has said, suggests that the decision was truly his. AAU coaches around the country are routinely paid money to steer their players to certain schools. It's a very shady business, and I'm always cynical about these situations, especially when you have an AAU coach steering a player to a college that seems like a clearly inferior choice. I'm biased, of course, but if you asked me, for example, to think up some reasons why Charlotte would be a good choice for Matthew, I could give you those reasons. There's a reasonable argument there. However, if you pointed a gun at my head and told me I'd only survive if I could construct a legitimate argument for picking Auburn over Nebraska, you'd have to shoot me. Aside from better weather and better chicken fingers, I can't figure out why Auburn is a better choice than Nebraska or a place an AAU coach would try to steer a player if he weren't getting some personal gain from it. And what Washut says is Gospel? Was this a quote from Atewe? Even if it was, Washut also said that Atewe had narrowed his decision to Auburn and Nebraska, which Atewe quickly said was incorrect. Even if Atewe told Washut that, it's very common for kids to not want to let people down and try to make everyone happy. It could just be lip service. There's no way I would pick currently pick Auburn over Nebraska, either. But I supposed they could use the same argument that every other major conference school (except Northwester) could use over us - at least SOME successful history. My opinion is that Matthew has a habit of telling the media things that he wishes he had phrased differently or omitted, and, when he later realizes it, he says they took him out of context, put words in his mouth, or something like that. It's a pattern that keeps repeating itself. I'm pretty certain he told those guys he was down to Auburn and Nebraska, and then realized the ramifications of that (perhaps he didn't tell Charlotte and Nevada), so he backtracked and said they put words in his mouth. This is highly unlikely. Brian Rosenthal has been doing this for a long time now. Then, yesterday, Washut posted about how Matthew told him he preferred Nebraska but that his mentor wanted him at Auburn. Of course, after it was published, Atewe accused them of taking him out of context. Give me a break! So, which is more likely, that we have a kid here who tends to open his mouth and say stuff he later regrets, or two incompetent media guys who just can't seem to get their stories straight? I'll go with option #1. I believe that he probably did say it to Washut. That STILL doesn't make it true/overly relevent. He may've said, "Ya I really like Nebraska. Some people close to me are kind of pushing Auburn." That doesn't mean that, in the end, that his decision is being made for him. But I agree with Cookie... I can't believe I'm falling into this trap where I'm reading into tweets (posted by others - I'm not on Twitter) about a 2* 19 y/o, trying to decipher what it does/doesn't mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredsSlacks Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Auburn fans have basically said they would choose Nebraska over themselves. They know Nebraska is putting a lot of effort into the bball program and has a lot to offer. -we have 2 guys over 6'7. one might transfer any day now. Immediate playing time. -nicest facilities -new arena -best conference -best fans... when we are winning -better education. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebrasketball10 Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Auburn fans have basically said they would choose Nebraska over themselves. They know Nebraska is putting a lot of effort into the bball program and has a lot to offer. -we have 2 guys over 6'7. one might transfer any day now. Immediate playing time. -nicest facilities -new arena -best conference -best fans... when we are winning -better education. Too bad neither us or the Auburn fans are making the decision And "best fans... when we are winning" isn't that good of a compliment regarding our fan base... greymonkey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Peterson Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Does Atewe say anywhere that offensive tempo will be a factor in his decision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Peterson Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Did we really just hit 43 pages on this thread? Before commitment day?Well, whoever had the overs, you just won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 I suspect that if you went back and removed every post from this thread that was about the size of the thread itself, the thread would shrink down to about 25 pages. leonidas and Norm Peterson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKamdyMan Posted March 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Does Atewe say anywhere that offensive tempo will be a factor in his decision? he did yes. He wants an offense that is uptempo and would work the ball through him. Remember hes in a guard oriented offense now that doesnt work through him but when he gets open gets the ball. Coach Smith has done well with bigs so i think with development he could be a guy that really improves on offense and be someone that has it work through him some to open other parts of the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lang Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 I find the flip flops and denials and backtracking a bit unnerving and annoying b/c I want the dude to really want to be here and be excited about being here. By gum if he does end up here, I hope he is all N--big time. Why do I have the feeling that tomorrow won't end anything. Signing day ain't 'til the 17th for crying out loud....I'm thinking this thread may stretch to 100 pages. And, I'm sure I won't miss any of it if it does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredsSlacks Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Auburn fans have basically said they would choose Nebraska over themselves. They know Nebraska is putting a lot of effort into the bball program and has a lot to offer. -we have 2 guys over 6'7. one might transfer any day now. Immediate playing time. -nicest facilities -new arena -best conference -best fans... when we are winning -better education. Too bad neither us or the Auburn fans are making the decision And "best fans... when we are winning" isn't that good of a compliment regarding our fan base... I probably should of went into detail on that. For basketball, our fanbase has actually been great considering our lack of recent success. When we are winning though, our fans really go all out. Just look at volleyball. Baseball was selling out for a long time when we were good too. Football is always going to be the top sport, but NU fans are pretty good all around and arguably the best when we have a winning team. So i don't really look at it as a negative. One basketball example with our fans was a couple years ago when doc was very close to getting 20 wins, I think our fans sold out the last 5 or 6 games. We choked in those games, but our fans did everything they could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Also this all comes to an end tomorrow right? Please? Yeah, but on the bright side, we got this thread to over 40 pages. AND we found out you can get FUBUs for $11 at Wal-Mart. You're right, we're all winners! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Peterson Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 This Atewe commitment really seems to have people on edge around here. Not trying to fish for a compliment or anything, but waaaaay back on page 39 of this thread, I posted what I thought was one of my best posts in years. Comparing the pros and cons of the various schools Atewe is considering? Saying that a pro for Nebraska is that we'll have other players from foreign countries -- like New Zealand and Arkansas? I mean, that's comedy gold. And apparently only 49r liked it. I think people are taking this too seriously. If he comes here he comes and if he doesn't he doesn't. Meanwhile, I just find the whole situation amusing. When you stop to think about the fact that we're to 43 pages in a thread about a kid who isn't exactly Andrew Wiggins, I mean, you gotta admit it's kinda funny. I'm laughing about it anyway. Creighton Fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobcat402 Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Does Atewe say anywhere that offensive tempo will be a factor in his decision? i heard the amount of memorabilia he has of the other team in his basement will ultimately decide the outcome... Norm Peterson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greymonkey Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 This Atewe commitment really seems to have people on edge around here. Not trying to fish for a compliment or anything, but waaaaay back on page 39 of this thread, I posted what I thought was one of my best posts in years. Comparing the pros and cons of the various schools Atewe is considering? Saying that a pro for Nebraska is that we'll have other players from foreign countries -- like New Zealand and Arkansas? I mean, that's comedy gold. And apparently only 49r liked it. I think people are taking this too seriously. If he comes here he comes and if he doesn't he doesn't. Meanwhile, I just find the whole situation amusing. When you stop to think about the fact that we're to 43 pages in a thread about a kid who isn't exactly Andrew Wiggins, I mean, you gotta admit it's kinda funny. I'm laughing about it anyway. Page 39?! Seems like forever ago. What was that...yesterday? I had a good laugh about that Arkansas joke, Norm. I did not want to add to the exponentially growing thread we've got going here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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