Where It Went Wrong (Maybe) -- Some Stats

[cornfed24-7]

19 minutes ago, Vinny said:

If it takes $5 mil to compete and Fred was giving around $2 mil, we better not fire Fred.

 

That statement will remain as long as the situation does.

Right?!? Because what's your bench mark for success if this is true? I don't know the answer to that. But I know what ever the answer is Hoiberg blew that bench mark out the water this last 2-3 years.

 

I'm to believe there's a coach out there that's going achieve even marginally better results given the same situation as Fred. Get out of here with that mess. 

 

Someone mentioned recently, I think in jest, that we haven't tried the Northwestern approach yet. But if this is the reality then I think that's probably the best bet and Fred has done a good enough job to be the guy to bet on.

 

 

 

[hhcmatt]

24 minutes ago, cornfed24-7 said:

I'm to believe there's a coach out there that's going achieve even marginally better results given the same situation as Fred. Get out of here with that mess. 

 

Yes. I wouldn't say Fred excels at all in running a college basketball team or roster construction, which is a very big part of the job. On the flip side, you could argue that Nebraska excels less at hiring a "better coach".

 

Maybe the more apt question is whether or not a "better coach" would get more, similar, or less NIL money than Fred. 

[HuskerFever]

59 minutes ago, UnicamMan said:

Maybe instead of hiring a coach we should just let the team coach itself and use the money for players.  This is mostly snark. 

 

[hskr4life]

1 hour ago, cornfed24-7 said:

 I totally believe that. But let's say you drop a cool 500k more on his offer does that change his ask? It may not have. 

 

But 500k seems like chump change from what I'm learning today. If it really is 5 mil to compete and we're closer to 2 mil then from here on out I am just going to assume we couldn't come up with a persuasive enough offer to make a player either stay at or commit to the Huskers.

 

 

Or was he asked to go to free up some salary ca.... I mean NIL in hopes we could land something different (maybe we swung and missed after this happened)

[cornfed24-7]

2 minutes ago, hskr4life said:

 

Or was he asked to go to free up some salary ca.... I mean NIL in hopes we could land something different (maybe we swung and missed after this happened)

Yeah. That's the problem apparently. We have money to compete between 2 role players. Other teams have the money to keep their role players and compete for "better" role players and possibly different makers.

[cornfed24-7]

39 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

 

Yes. I wouldn't say Fred excels at all in running a college basketball team or roster construction, which is a very big part of the job. On the flip side, you could argue that Nebraska excels less at hiring a "better coach".

 

Maybe the more apt question is whether or not a "better coach" would get more, similar, or less NIL money than Fred. 

This is why I am arguing about the last 2-3 years. To me this in where a solid line in sand is of how teams were run after the current NIL and transfer rules  and before.

 

Fred was awful in the before. But that doesn't matter. Completely different world now. He's done pretty good in the after.

 

In the post  I said same situation meaning meaning same NIL if that wasn't clear. And I just don't believe there is a coach out there that would achieve better results with the same or less NIL. 

 

As far as roster management I just can't bring myself to fault Hoiberg if he's really operating on a budget of 2mil, but it takes 5mil to compete.

 

To me this roster confirms this because it reeked of a roster that was taking what we could get not what we wanted. 

 

If they fired Fred tomorrow I wouldn't think it's the right or wrong choice. But who ever they hired next you wouldn't convince me that they would achieve any better results than what Fred has the last 3 years if they operate with the same NIL budget.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Dean Smith]

2 hours ago, hskr4life said:

 

Or was he asked to go to free up some salary ca.... I mean NIL in hopes we could land something different (maybe we swung and missed after this happened)

Again sources say essegian was the targeted replacement for Wilcher so I’m assuming he took the NIL