Now that we know Trev is willing to fire a coach mid-season ...

[basketballjones]

On 10/25/2022 at 10:29 AM, Norm Peterson said:

I've been rethinking this. I think there's more to the equation than just a willingness to fire a coach mid-season.

• They didn't wait till the buyout went down substantially. Must have therefore had *significant* motivation.
• Recently-released metrics indicate there was a very low bar to keep his job and reinstate his $5 mill salary.
• Chances are they lose to OU regardless, so ...
• Did they not want to risk him beating Indiana as his last game before firing him? Could they have fired him IU game-day morning? Probably couldn't have done that.
• Rumors swirling about a turbulent life off the field may be the difference between a coach who gets to finish a season and a coach who does not? Does this save Hoiberg, hypothetically?

Problem is now this:

• Firing Frost after game 3 instead of waiting until the buyout goes down puts you in a new predicament: Mickey Joseph having success.
• If MJ picks up home wins against Illinois and Minnesota and then either Wisconsin or Iowa to finish the season, he'll have six wins -- Frost's metric. How do you not hire him permanently at that point? Does the ND win count for bowl eligibility? If he gets bowl eligible ...
• Rumors I've heard, though, they aren't looking at Joseph. Is this incorrect? Would they consider MJ?

If you intend to fire Frost, but don't want to permanently hire any of the potential interim candidates, Game Theory, or whatever strategic concept you'd employ, would suggest the following:

• Let Frost stay on and lose to OU.
• Fire him either before or after the IU game (probable loss) and save the difference in buyout $$$.
• His interim would then not have enough season left to right the ship and get bowl-eligible; saves you the PR problem of not appearing to give the interim guy a chance.
• Go after whoever you want at the end of the season.

Can we reasonably, logically infer, therefore, that Trev is open to hiring MJ if we earn a bowl invite?

 

Can we also reasonably, logically infer, therefore, that there was much more than a losing record involved in the decision to terminate Frost early? There were some good reasons to wait even if he was doing poorly, and they did not.

 

And, how this applies to Hoiberg is that it seems reasonable to conclude that there's not likely to be a mid-season coaching change in hoops even if we seem headed for another 7-10 win season.

I actually have some decent football "insider" connections and what I have heard is basically this: 

 

Mickey does not want the job and the team and everyone knows that. It was made known in the first meeting, right off the bat, by both Trev and Mickey. Mickey loves recruiting and coaching his guys, does not want the pressure and schedule of the Head Coach. So he was the perfect guy to put in the Interim role - everyone loves him - can handle it professionally so that people treat him like the HC and stay competing. 

HOWEVER - a bit of a wrench has been thrown into it - Mickey has kinda liked it. And the players love him as the Head Coach - as do all the support/intern staff. Things are getting done more professionally and organized than they ever have before and it's so much less toxic and stressful up at Memorial Stadium. 

[huskerbill85]

11 hours ago, Norm Peterson said:

 

Who would it be if you're not a betting man?

Matt Campbell but he's having such a poor season thar will be a really really tough sell

[HuskerFever]

If there's any truth to this, who knows who our next coach is going to be.

 

https://huskercorner.com/2022/10/24/nebraska-football-coaching-search-doom/

[basketballjones]

10 hours ago, HuskerFever said:

If there's any truth to this, who knows who our next coach is going to be.

 

https://huskercorner.com/2022/10/24/nebraska-football-coaching-search-doom/

I've been trying to keep quiet about it... but let's just say the wife and I have been vetting Lincoln realtors. But with what they're offering we might only be able to afford to live in T Town. 

[basketballjones]

11 hours ago, huskerbill85 said:

Matt Campbell but he's having such a poor season thar will be a really really tough sell

This is a huge problem I am seeing. We're all being such prisoners of the moment, as fans, with this coaching search. Hope Trev isn't. 

[Huskerpapa]

Hard to worry about something that you have no control over...

When Trev started this process he indicated there would be a lot of conjecture and rumors.  Spot on!  Lot's of money has not led to good hires.  So to me, the focus should be on the qualities that Trev spoke of.  Many of the names bandied about are laughable since they do not match what is being looked for.  

Hopefully this process will be much more successful than in the past.  

[cipsucks]

Didn't want to start a thread, so this seemed like a good place for this...

 

RIP Jerry Lee Lewis.  May heaven be filled with 13 year old cousins.

 

 

 

[Chuck Taylor]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-coaching-hot-seat-five-coaches-who-may-need-a-good-season-in-2022-23-to-save-their-job/

Five coaches on the hot seat. Fred's not one of them, but Chris Collins is. Not sure what that means.