Norm Peterson Posted August 28, 2015 Report Posted August 28, 2015 Wowser. Another Blunt in trouble in Illinois. This time it's their head football coach, Tim Beckman. As between Beckman and Bollant, one of those Illinois head coaches still has a job. And the other one doesn't. But it ain't the women's basketball coach who's been given the pink slip. According to ESPN http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/13533196/tim-beckman-fired-coach-illinois-fighting-illini, Beckman was fired amid allegations that he was forcing players to play hurt. So they fired him. A week before the season is set to begin. Of course, all of his supporters should keep their pie holes shut because one should NEVER defend a coach who's been accused of wrongdoing, of any sort, apparently. But this begs a question: If a school can fire a football head coach for getting players to play hurt, how can that same school NOT fire a women's basketball coach for all the things Matt Bollant was accused of? I suppose maybe it's because you don't fire people just because of accusations. Maybe that's it. Bugeaters1 1 Quote
huskerchode Posted August 28, 2015 Report Posted August 28, 2015 I suppose they could hire a certain Pelini... Quote
whoopdeedoo Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 university of illinois trying to get lawsuit thrown out... http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-illinois-basketball-lawsuit-20151021-story.html Quote
Norm Peterson Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 university of illinois trying to get lawsuit thrown out... http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-illinois-basketball-lawsuit-20151021-story.html Well, don't they just take the accusations at face value and hold people responsible accordingly? What's all this hooey about proof and evidence and such. Don't they just need a narrative? Quote
Silverbacked1 Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 But we are quick to jump all over Rick at the Ville aren't we? Quote
Norm Peterson Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 But we are quick to jump all over Rick at the Ville aren't we? Are we? Quote
Silverbacked1 Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 He says that he knew noting about it, yet people want him gone as of right now. I really could care less either way because I don't have a horse in any of these races. Just thought I would point out what I thought was happening in both cases. Not a big deal. Bugeaters1 1 Quote
Norm Peterson Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 Silver, there was a rush to judgment in the Illinois situation in part because I think some people don't really like their coach. I didn't see the same rush to judgment in the case of Pitino. There were some people saying it looks bad. And it does. However, I see some significant differences in the two situations. In the case of Louisville, the allegations are much more concrete as to what was done and who did it. And no one has said Pitino did it or even that he knew about it and tacitly approved of it by not putting a stop to it. What I've seen is that people say, with it going on as long as it did and being as involved as it was, how could Pitino NOT have known? I don't know. I haven't offered an opinion on that case one way or the other as it relates to Pitino. But, again, with Louisville, the woman says she was paid something like $10,000 over time to supply dancers? And she would then serve as an intermediary between the dancers and the graduate assistant coach striking the deals for prostitution. Her daughters have both come forward and named specific recruits that they slept with and have asserted they were paid money to do it. And some news outlet, can't recall which, has apparently independently (?) confirmed wire transfers between this coach and this woman. I don't know if those allegations are true. I'll repeat: I don't know if those allegations are true. But names have been named with concrete accusations of patently illegal activity. And not a soul has stepped forward to say it didn't happen. At best -- at BEST -- Pitino has said, "none of us knew." With Illnois women's basketball, the allegations were comparatively fuzzy and others who would have had to have been there and known what was going on have jumped forward and stated unequivocal support for the coaches. I think the two situations are only comparable in that they involved accusations against basketball programs in major conference in middle America. Outside of that, I think they're very dis-similar. Cazzie22 1 Quote
Silverbacked1 Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 Like I said I really don't care, it was just the way I saw it. No skin off my nose. Quote
Bugeaters1 Posted December 15, 2015 Author Report Posted December 15, 2015 http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-illinois-athletic-director-search-spt-1215-20151214-story.html They still have no clue on how to do things there. Quote
KarlHessEatMy.... Posted March 23, 2016 Report Posted March 23, 2016 I see ESPN published a post that says Bollant will be back despite the 9-21 season and lawsuit against him. Sounds crazy to me redsteve, mwm89 and Bugeaters1 3 Quote
NEBFAN Posted March 24, 2016 Report Posted March 24, 2016 If you all really knew the parents involved............... Quote
Bugeaters1 Posted March 24, 2016 Author Report Posted March 24, 2016 If you all really knew the parents involved...............Well enlighten us allSent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Silverbacked1 and mwm89 2 Quote
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