Norm Peterson Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 OK, and still they're weighing in significantly lighter than the centers whose weights you listed, which proves my point. Comparing the weight of a DL to the weight of an OL is not an apples to apples comparison. OF COURSE DLs weight less. But 270# doesn't make a DL "very undersized." A little light? Sure. But "very undersized"? No way. He's over 20 pounds lighter than the average starting Big Ten D-tackle. To me that is very undersized...especially considering the job he will be asked to do in Bo's scheme. He's not being asked to start. Play a lot? Probably. Start? No. Compare him in size with the STARTERS at Michigan State and he compares. Not "very undersized." Quote
huskerbaseball13 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 OK, and still they're weighing in significantly lighter than the centers whose weights you listed, which proves my point. Comparing the weight of a DL to the weight of an OL is not an apples to apples comparison. OF COURSE DLs weight less. But 270# doesn't make a DL "very undersized." A little light? Sure. But "very undersized"? No way. He's over 20 pounds lighter than the average starting Big Ten D-tackle. To me that is very undersized...especially considering the job he will be asked to do in Bo's scheme. He's not being asked to start. Play a lot? Probably. Start? No. Compare him in size with the STARTERS at Michigan State and he compares. Not "very undersized." Reading up on MSU defense and actually watching their defense they ask their d tackles to do different things. I'm not some football genius but from what I understand MSU asks their d tackles to penetrate and be disruptive. Under Bo's 2 gap scheme this isn't the case. He wants his D Tackles maintaining and eating up blockers so the linebackers can fill the hole. If we are going to have to rely on an undersized true freshman D Tackle I fail to see where this great depth is at the position? D Tackle may be the toughest position for any true freshman to make an impact. I guess we will have to agree to disagree...and just pray Collins and Valentine remain healthy. Quote
huskerbaseball13 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 Kevin Williams was carried off on a stretcher today, the same day one of our DT starters decided to transfer. Ouch. Curry wasn't going to start but still a big loss. It's too bad we failed to recruit depth at the dline all these years. Bo will pay for it now.Actually we recruited way more depth in the Dline starting 3 years ago, so I don't what "all those years" has to do with it. We are better prepared to deal with transfers/injuries than now than in previous years, precisely due to improved recruiting. Highly touted oline recruit DJ Foster was practicing at DT today. Again, where is the depth? Answer...it's not there and we have struggled to recruit quality depth on the dline since Bo was hired. It raises red flags when you have to move olineman to defense to shore up the lack of depth. Quote
Huskerpapa Posted August 21, 2014 Author Report Posted August 21, 2014 Haters going to hate. Lovers are going to love. Quote
huskerbaseball13 Posted August 25, 2014 Report Posted August 25, 2014 Game Week. Can't believe it's here already. Looking forward to seeing how much Armstrong has improved. Also curious to see if our D-line really is as good as everyone thinks it will be. D-line can't afford anymore injuries. Quote
HB Posted August 25, 2014 Report Posted August 25, 2014 Game Week. Can't believe it's here already. Looking forward to seeing how much Armstrong has improved. Also curious to see if our D-line really is as good as everyone thinks it will be. D-line can't afford anymore injuries. Could really use Lewis and Cotton to stay healthy on the left side of the Oline also. Pretty big dropoff after them. Go skers. Quote
huskerbaseball13 Posted September 11, 2014 Report Posted September 11, 2014 McMullen and Collins played every defensive snap last weekend vs McNeese St. The lack of depth on the D-line may prove to be a killer on the back end of the schedule if that continues. Quote
colhusker Posted September 17, 2014 Report Posted September 17, 2014 Bo has a similar record as Dr. Tom at the same point in time. Bo will be fine. This team will be excellent. Injuries suck...but I want to see a tough team and this is a tough team Please read this... http://m.omaha.com/huskers/blogs/mad-chatter-putting-in-perspective-early-struggles---/article_183c9a6f-9947-5775-818f-e3145da6dcc1.html?mode=jqm Lost my interest when I saw Dirky's name on it. Silverbacked1 1 Quote
colhusker Posted September 17, 2014 Report Posted September 17, 2014 Kevin Williams was carried off on a stretcher today, the same day one of our DT starters decided to transfer. Ouch. Curry wasn't going to start but still a big loss. It's too bad we failed to recruit depth at the dline all these years. Bo will pay for it now. Curry took his ball and went home do to not getting enough playing time. He also saw the two kids coming next year and headed for the hills/ Quote
huskerbaseball13 Posted October 5, 2014 Report Posted October 5, 2014 Same ole same ole in Pelini land. Quote
Huskerpapa Posted October 5, 2014 Author Report Posted October 5, 2014 Hate how this game played out...but MSU has taken advantage of breaks where we have not...this is not a melt-down game. Quote
Silverbacked1 Posted October 5, 2014 Report Posted October 5, 2014 That was fun. Wish we could have won that to spite those that quit watching and gave up on the boys. HB and 49r 2 Quote
HB Posted October 5, 2014 Report Posted October 5, 2014 Same ole same ole in Pelini land. Not if you're paying attention. Future is bright. Quote
huskerbaseball13 Posted October 5, 2014 Report Posted October 5, 2014 Same ole same ole in Pelini land. Not if you're paying attention. Future is bright. Sorry, not getting sucked into that. Same problems under Pelini that we have had six years now. Future is bright if you are satisfied with zero championships and 9-10 wins. Haymarket Husker 1 Quote
jason2486 Posted October 5, 2014 Report Posted October 5, 2014 For all the negative talk about Bo, I've never heard who ppl think would be a good replacement...does he have things to improve? Absolutely. But he has continually gotten better and will continue to do so. Not many guys have taken over a top 5 all time program as their FIRST head coaching gig and been as successful as no. Quote
Silverbacked1 Posted October 5, 2014 Report Posted October 5, 2014 I was just happy how the boys didn't give up and played hard after really not playing well at all for most of the game. Guess I should say the o, not the whole team. And two punt returns for TD this year, OUTSTANDING! Quote
jason2486 Posted October 5, 2014 Report Posted October 5, 2014 Agreed Silverbacked1! I hate "moral victories," but it was nice that we didn't give up on the big stage. Silverbacked1 1 Quote
huskerbaseball13 Posted October 5, 2014 Report Posted October 5, 2014 For all the negative talk about Bo, I've never heard who ppl think would be a good replacement...does he have things to improve? Absolutely. But he has continually gotten better and will continue to do so. Not many guys have taken over a top 5 all time program as their FIRST head coaching gig and been as successful as no. Not our job. That's why Eichorst gets paid good money. Find someone who can make the NU football program competitive on the national level again. Bo has improved? How so? Last I checked he has lost 4 games every single year. Last I checked his team still commits penalties and turnovers at a high rate. The only thing that may save him this year from losing 4 games is our God awful schedule. We have clearly flat lined under him. Quote
HB Posted October 5, 2014 Report Posted October 5, 2014 For all the negative talk about Bo, I've never heard who ppl think would be a good replacement...does he have things to improve? Absolutely. But he has continually gotten better and will continue to do so. Not many guys have taken over a top 5 all time program as their FIRST head coaching gig and been as successful as no.Not our job. That's why Eichorst gets paid good money. Find someone who can make the NU football program competitive on the national level again. Bo has improved? How so? Last I checked he has lost 4 games every single year. Last I checked his team still commits penalties and turnovers at a high rate. The only thing that may save him this year from losing 4 games is our God awful schedule. We have clearly flat lined under him. Clearly we haven't. But the good thing is we can come back at the end of the season and revisit these posts. And if I'm wrong, I'll own it. But if you don't think we've hit our recruiting stride the past 2-3 years, again, your mind is made up and you aren't paying attention. If you don't think the front four defensively is heads and tails above where it was in earlier years, you're not watching. And for those whining about the depth, we played missing about 8 starters last night and still came close on the road against a good team. A work in progress (see, O-line and linebackers, and your point about penalties and turnovers is valid), but it is in fact progressing, not flat-lining. Special teams is a specific example of that; there is noticeable improvement this year. Just because we're in year 7 doesn't mean a staff can't keep getting better; T.O. did that 20 years into it in '93 after several rough years. 2015 and 2016 classes are looking good, and to blow it all up and start over again would not be good. But, I know none of this will convince the anti-Bo folks. Let's just check back at the end of the season, and I'll go on record as predicting high levels of success (barring even further long term injuries to key guys like AA, Tommy, Gregory, Maliek, and VV). Bugeaters1 1 Quote
Bugeaters1 Posted October 5, 2014 Report Posted October 5, 2014 For all the negative talk about Bo, I've never heard who ppl think would be a good replacement...does he have things to improve? Absolutely. But he has continually gotten better and will continue to do so. Not many guys have taken over a top 5 all time program as their FIRST head coaching gig and been as successful as no.Not our job. That's why Eichorst gets paid good money. Find someone who can make the NU football program competitive on the national level again. Bo has improved? How so? Last I checked he has lost 4 games every single year. Last I checked his team still commits penalties and turnovers at a high rate. The only thing that may save him this year from losing 4 games is our God awful schedule. We have clearly flat lined under him. Didn't you say the same thing about Erstad flat lining earlier this year when it was colder than hell out and the players weren't playing like you thought they should have been. 49r 1 Quote
huskerbaseball13 Posted October 5, 2014 Report Posted October 5, 2014 For all the negative talk about Bo, I've never heard who ppl think would be a good replacement...does he have things to improve? Absolutely. But he has continually gotten better and will continue to do so. Not many guys have taken over a top 5 all time program as their FIRST head coaching gig and been as successful as no.Not our job. That's why Eichorst gets paid good money. Find someone who can make the NU football program competitive on the national level again. Bo has improved? How so? Last I checked he has lost 4 games every single year. Last I checked his team still commits penalties and turnovers at a high rate. The only thing that may save him this year from losing 4 games is our God awful schedule. We have clearly flat lined under him. Didn't you say the same thing about Erstad flat lining earlier this year when it was colder than hell out and the players weren't playing like you thought they should have been. Nope. Don't remember saying Erstad has flat lined. I do remember saying I thought we could have found a better head coach...one with experience. If Erstad is in year 7 without any hardware to show for it I will be saying the same thing. And the players werent playing up to par like they should have been...last I checked the opposing team plays in the same conditions as our team does. I can guarantee you Erstad wouldnt and never will use the temperature as an excuse for his team under performing. Quote
huskerbaseball13 Posted October 5, 2014 Report Posted October 5, 2014 For all the negative talk about Bo, I've never heard who ppl think would be a good replacement...does he have things to improve? Absolutely. But he has continually gotten better and will continue to do so. Not many guys have taken over a top 5 all time program as their FIRST head coaching gig and been as successful as no.Not our job. That's why Eichorst gets paid good money. Find someone who can make the NU football program competitive on the national level again. Bo has improved? How so? Last I checked he has lost 4 games every single year. Last I checked his team still commits penalties and turnovers at a high rate. The only thing that may save him this year from losing 4 games is our God awful schedule. We have clearly flat lined under him. Clearly we haven't. But the good thing is we can come back at the end of the season and revisit these posts. And if I'm wrong, I'll own it. But if you don't think we've hit our recruiting stride the past 2-3 years, again, your mind is made up and you aren't paying attention. If you don't think the front four defensively is heads and tails above where it was in earlier years, you're not watching. And for those whining about the depth, we played missing about 8 starters last night and still came close on the road against a good team. A work in progress (see, O-line and linebackers, and your point about penalties and turnovers is valid), but it is in fact progressing, not flat-lining. Special teams is a specific example of that; there is noticeable improvement this year. Just because we're in year 7 doesn't mean a staff can't keep getting better; T.O. did that 20 years into it in '93 after several rough years. 2015 and 2016 classes are looking good, and to blow it all up and start over again would not be good. But, I know none of this will convince the anti-Bo folks. Let's just check back at the end of the season, and I'll go on record as predicting high levels of success (barring even further long term injuries to key guys like AA, Tommy, Gregory, Maliek, and VV). If we win the Big 10 I'll gladly come back and say I was wrong. Have we hit our recruiting stride? I'm not sure maybe....but this staff hitting their recruiting stride is still not good enough to win championships IMO. Last years class was not even ranked in the top 25. The Dline is solid..but not as good as it was when Bo took over....of course I dont really every expect him to sign a Suh. Our defensive line recruiting out of Bo and his staff was a major failure his first few years...and we paid for it...and we still are depth wise. We have a solid starting four. Outside of that, we are razor thin. Bo can shut up his critics by just winning...win the Big 10. Year 7 I think it's fair to start demanding doing something of note. It's time to start gaining some national respect back. Winning last night would have gone a long with in that regard...not giving us is admirable. But we should have never been in the position to be down 27-3. And up until that point we were very hard to watch, the O-line failed to show up. Quote
Huskerpapa Posted October 5, 2014 Author Report Posted October 5, 2014 The area of disappointment last night was our offensive line, and quite frankly, that surprised me. Granted, MSU hit a couple of big plays, but it wasn't our defense that cost us last evening. We simply lost the battle with our offensive line. Ameer didn't even have a prayer last night, that was disappointing. That said, the way we came back made me proud. In the past several years, we would check out when we got behind. We did not check out, we found resolve and made a tremendous comeback. Wish we could have pulled it out...that would have been historic. Silverbacked1 1 Quote
Norm Peterson Posted October 5, 2014 Report Posted October 5, 2014 For all the negative talk about Bo, I've never heard who ppl think would be a good replacement...does he have things to improve? Absolutely. But he has continually gotten better and will continue to do so. Not many guys have taken over a top 5 all time program as their FIRST head coaching gig and been as successful as no. Well a couple of years ago, all the Bo haters were talking about how they wanted Brady Hoke and how much better off we'd be if we had Hoke instead and how Michigan would be kicking our football butts year in and year out and ... I don't expect anyone to admit publicly that they were among those who advocated for Hoke, but I think it shows what kind of crapshoot hiring coaches can be. Which is why Jason might not get many takers to say who they'd want instead. Quote
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