Waiting for the other shoe to drop

[Norm Peterson]

As I write this, Bo Pelini is still the head coach at Nebraska.  And maybe that won't change any time soon.  But just a little tidbit looking back on this season:

 

We have 4 losses to teams who have an average of 3 losses each.  By the end of the regular season, the teams we've lost to will have racked up either 12 or 13 losses themselves.  That's 4 losses each for the teams not named Michigan State.  

 

By the end of the season, chances are good that only one of the teams we lost to will be ranked.

 

In 4 losses, we've been outscored by 65 points.  That's an average margin of loss of 16.25 points.

 

I have mixed feelings about getting rid of Bo.  Part of me says we shouldn't; part of me says we should.  Don't know if we will, but if we did, I think there would be reasons to justify it.

[HB]

Norm, this is over.  It was over the day Tom Osborne resigned.  Today's meltdown didn't affect the decision by HP/SE, but it will affect public opinion about it.  Which in the end may make it much less divisive. 

[atskooc]

Our last twelve losses have come, on average, with a score of 24-43.

 

That's not good, folks.  Not good at all.

[jimmykc]

Norm, it would seem to me that Coach Pelini's demeanor/decisions/attitude yesterday would indicate that he will not be on the sidelines at our bowl game. I have heard from two "informed but inside" sources that the only part of the process that is not finalized is whether a structured resignation or a firing is imminent. The sad part is that Bo's passion did not translate into a product which satisfied a delusional fan base which still feels that NU can should be a perennial top ten power. Vince Lombardi would not have been able to overcome the  injuries the offense had this year. And what coach will be able to come and restore both the respect and past achievement level the fans seem to expect? Turner Gill? Scott Frost? Houston Nutt may be available now. I think that Tim Miles has a much easier task before him that any new football coach will find awaiting him.

[Huskerpapa]

Horse bleep...Bo should remain the coach.  I tend to agree with HB though, I think this has been a done deal for some time.  Harvey is not a fan, and what Harvey wants, Harvey gets.

[HB]

Wow, I didn't expect today's events to unfold as they did.  Still, I'm not sure this is over.  The next 10 days will be interesting.  Watch as people parse Eichorst's statement.  Watch to see if we have aggressive action with recruiting.  Watch to see what the Big 10's punishment will be for Bo's tirade about the refs--will it be more than Cook got?  And see if Mr. "I apologize to no one" actually apologizes or at least expresses regret for his conduct beginning at halftime of the Iowa game, and continuing through the post game press conference.   

[Norm Peterson]

What's more surprising?  That Bo was retained back in November or that we beat Georgia in the bowl?

 

And if, as so many insisted was true, Eichorst planned to fire Pelini AFTER the bowl game, well, that'd be damn near impossible now.  If you like Bo and want to keep him as your coach, congratulations, I think you got your wish.

[Huskerpapa]

I'm just glad that Bo was retained.  I will say it again, it was horse bleep that this subject was even a topic of discussion.  I lived through the same horse bleep discussion when Dr. Tom "struggled" to nine or ten wins a year, but failed to win it all.  Heck, I am currently reading a book regarding Godfather Bob.  Those back in his day were even after him at one point. 

 

People simply do not understand the program buidling process.  Bo has us on the edge...now, we need a couple of difference makers to take us to the next level.  Coach Miles has the same burden.  We need to build the foundation; then you build the structure which will hopefully put us consistently in the dance.  Then, a couple of difference makers, and boom goes the PBA, we will see... .  Well, let's not get too far ahead of ourselves

[TheGov21]

What's more surprising? That Bo was retained back in November or that we beat Georgia in the bowl?

And if, as so many insisted was true, Eichorst planned to fire Pelini AFTER the bowl game, well, that'd be damn near impossible now. If you like Bo and want to keep him as your coach, congratulations, I think you got your wish.

Those who think Eichorst was going to wait till the bowl game to fire Pelini need to get their heads checked out. That would be the dumbest thing. It's so dumb that if Eichorst did that, he should be fired on the spot

[hhcmatt]

 

What's more surprising? That Bo was retained back in November or that we beat Georgia in the bowl?

And if, as so many insisted was true, Eichorst planned to fire Pelini AFTER the bowl game, well, that'd be damn near impossible now. If you like Bo and want to keep him as your coach, congratulations, I think you got your wish.

Those who think Eichorst was going to wait till the bowl game to fire Pelini need to get their heads checked out. That would be the dumbest thing. It's so dumb that if Eichorst did that, he should be fired on the spot

 

 

We were healthy and Georgia's best two offensive players were hobbled/out (Girley/Murray) This wasn't the monster Georgia team from last year.

[Huskerpapa]

 

 

What's more surprising? That Bo was retained back in November or that we beat Georgia in the bowl?

And if, as so many insisted was true, Eichorst planned to fire Pelini AFTER the bowl game, well, that'd be damn near impossible now. If you like Bo and want to keep him as your coach, congratulations, I think you got your wish.

Those who think Eichorst was going to wait till the bowl game to fire Pelini need to get their heads checked out. That would be the dumbest thing. It's so dumb that if Eichorst did that, he should be fired on the spot

 

 

We were healthy and Georgia's best two offensive players were hobbled/out (Girley/Murray) This wasn't the monster Georgia team from last year.

 

I am assumming you are joking dimes... .  Goodness, our best two players on offense were out as well (Taylor and Long).  We were extremely hobbled on our offensive line plus one of our best d-linemen played on one leg.  But again, I did perhaps detect a bit of sarcasm in your response...

[hhcmatt]

 

 

 

What's more surprising? That Bo was retained back in November or that we beat Georgia in the bowl?

And if, as so many insisted was true, Eichorst planned to fire Pelini AFTER the bowl game, well, that'd be damn near impossible now. If you like Bo and want to keep him as your coach, congratulations, I think you got your wish.

Those who think Eichorst was going to wait till the bowl game to fire Pelini need to get their heads checked out. That would be the dumbest thing. It's so dumb that if Eichorst did that, he should be fired on the spot

 

 

We were healthy and Georgia's best two offensive players were hobbled/out (Girley/Murray) This wasn't the monster Georgia team from last year.

 

I am assumming you are joking dimes... .  Goodness, our best two players on offense were out as well (Taylor and Long).  We were extremely hobbled on our offensive line plus one of our best d-linemen played on one leg.  But again, I did perhaps detect a bit of sarcasm in your response...

 

Actually, I wasn't joking. With all due respect to any of our players, Aaron Murray was the most talented player not on that field.

To me, Georgia seemed vulnerable and while we were missing a few key players, we were as healthy as we've been in a while.  I also think the game was more important to us.  I didn't feel like we upset Georgia...I thought we played more to our potential.

[Norm Peterson]

If we'd been fully healthy when we played Minnesota or Michigan State or Iowa, we probably win all three of those games.  So, arguing who was injured rather than who won, rings a bit hollow to me.  People weren't indulging the excuse of our players being hurt when we were losing this year.  So, call it both ways.  If injuries aren't an excuse for losing, they shouldn't be used to diminish a win, either.

[Norm Peterson]

P.S.  I think I've said previously that I was on the fence about Bo.  I don't think we can expect the kind of sustained success we enjoyed under Osborne to take place in the modern age of college football with recruiting limits Osborne didn't face.  On the other hand, Bo has done a lot to harm his own standing by his belligerent behavior and being kind of an all-around ass.  I'm not celebrating Bo's retention.  But I also wouldn't have been celebrating his ouster if things had gone down that way.

[Huskerpapa]

Count me as a fan of Bo and once again, I was more than a little miffed that Bo's seat was hot.  I understand that Bo has acted like a jerk on a number of occasions.  Yet that is not uncommon with coaches dating back to the beginning of time.  I wish Bo was much more like Coach Miles from that perspective.  But Bo brings many traits to the table that are ignored by his critics.  Plus, he has built a strong foundation for a program that was somewhat in turmoil when he took it over. 

 

By the way, did anyone watch Saben go ballistic last night?  How about Stoops after the alleged throat slash incident?  Watch almost any college, pro or heck, even HS and little league game.  I do not condone it, but put it in perspective. 

[huskerbaseball13]

Count me as a fan of Bo and once again, I was more than a little miffed that Bo's seat was hot.  I understand that Bo has acted like a jerk on a number of occasions.  Yet that is not uncommon with coaches dating back to the beginning of time.  I wish Bo was much more like Coach Miles from that perspective.  But Bo brings many traits to the table that are ignored by his critics.  Plus, he has built a strong foundation for a program that was somewhat in turmoil when he took it over. 

 

By the way, did anyone watch Saben go ballistic last night?  How about Stoops after the alleged throat slash incident?  Watch almost any college, pro or heck, even HS and little league game.  I do not condone it, but put it in perspective. 

 

Not saying you are wrong...but care to list the many good trains Bo brings to the table?  Also....how many times has Stoops or Saban had to apologize for his antics on the field?  I don't think anybody should be upset that Bo gets worked up on the sidelines from time to time...but he obviously crosses the line when your team gets flagged for it and you publically get reprimanded more than once.  Also....it's not very often you see Saban and Stoops getting into it with coaches and players on the sidelines....but then again, those two coaches have actually won something of note. 

[Norm Peterson]

So, Terry Joseph is mulling an offer from aTm, huh.  Said in the paper they've offered him a lot more money but he says it's not a done deal that he'll go.  He'll give Bo a chance to match the money.  And if Bo doesn't match the offer?

 

What he should have said (regardless of what he was thinking) was, "It'll be a tough thing to think about.  Everyone wants a raise and I'm flattered by the A&M offer.  But I love Lincoln and I've loved working with Bo.  There will be a lot to consider."

 

What he said instead was, "Now, if you say, 'It's a lot of money and Nebraska isn't going to match it'? Then, yeah, it's a done deal, because that's what it comes down to, getting my contract extended and me getting a lot of money."

 

Been nice to know ya, Terry.  Don't let the door hit you in the ass  on your way out.

[Huskerpapa]

 

Count me as a fan of Bo and once again, I was more than a little miffed that Bo's seat was hot.  I understand that Bo has acted like a jerk on a number of occasions.  Yet that is not uncommon with coaches dating back to the beginning of time.  I wish Bo was much more like Coach Miles from that perspective.  But Bo brings many traits to the table that are ignored by his critics.  Plus, he has built a strong foundation for a program that was somewhat in turmoil when he took it over. 

 

By the way, did anyone watch Saben go ballistic last night?  How about Stoops after the alleged throat slash incident?  Watch almost any college, pro or heck, even HS and little league game.  I do not condone it, but put it in perspective. 

 

Not saying you are wrong...but care to list the many good trains Bo brings to the table?  Also....how many times has Stoops or Saban had to apologize for his antics on the field?  I don't think anybody should be upset that Bo gets worked up on the sidelines from time to time...but he obviously crosses the line when your team gets flagged for it and you publically get reprimanded more than once.  Also....it's not very often you see Saban and Stoops getting into it with coaches and players on the sidelines....but then again, those two coaches have actually won something of note. 

 

No.  Sorry, if you don't like him, then you and I are going to agree to disagree.

[TheGov21]

Can't blame the guy. Wants job stability and Nebraska doesn't necessarily provide him a whole lot. Remember he left Tennessee a year before Dooley got the ax. He's also from the south and that's where he recruits.