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2016-2017 Lineup since it was discussed as potent.... PG- Glynn Watson, So PG/SG-Bakari Evelyn, So PG/SG- Tai Webster, Sr SG-Anton Gill, rJr SF-Andrew White, rSr SF-Jack McVeigh, So SF-Isaiah Roby, Fr SF/PF-Nick Fuller, rJr PF-Ed Morrow, So PF-Michael Jacobson, So PF-Keanu Pinder, Jr C-Jacob Hammond, Jr OPEN That is a very long lineup.

We don't need Harris to be your traditional 5. Fact of the matter is that there are very few college teams with legitimate 5-men. Guys like Okafor and Kaminski are not the norm. Get me a bunch of long athletic guys who are quick leapers and can alter shots, play with an attitude and not just get pushed around like Walt did.

With or without Watson, we are extremely thin in the backcourt. We need another guard who can play the two badly. You have Parker (Sr- Can't play the two), Watson (incoming true frosh) and Webster (combo guard who has been wildly undependable). Not a ringing endorsement there. Wouldn't White be considered a two? He might be able to play there...but as M&R states...the guy is 6'7" Thats a pretty rare player that is going to be quick enough to defend the two in college at that size.

That would be like telling the guys... "Hey, we aren't going to win any games, so let's go out, play hard, and we'll see what happens next year." Thats a good way to get yourself fired real quick... but even more, a good way to lose the team. If we redshirted our best guy every year we were picked to be in the bottom half of the conference..... WE WOULD NEVER HAVE A BEST GUY. Thats like saying we should have redshirted TP when we made the run to the dance. We were picked to finish DAL Coach Miles has already said that he wanted Ubel to redshirt his first year. That would have been a similar situation Not really That was year 1, not year 4

With or without Watson, we are extremely thin in the backcourt. We need another guard who can play the two badly. You have Parker (Sr- Can't play the two), Watson (incoming true frosh) and Webster (combo guard who has been wildly undependable). Not a ringing endorsement there.

Maryland wont be in the top 4. Losing Wells is going to kill them and they got alot of breaks this year. Thats even assuming Trimble comes back

Piatkowski was also a true freshman

If Petteway returns, we will be in the top 10, worst case.

He shouldn't be on the top of our list but he's a guy that can play 10-20 minutes for us next year. He seems like Leslee Smith, a valuable role player, without the injury baggage. Yep. We need competent bigs for next year...even in a role player setting. If nothing else...hes a role guy off the bench that can take some pressure off of Hammond and Morrow

Yep. Don't take him over Edwards or anyone else we can get out of HS or JUCO...but if the scholarship is going to be open...fill it

you really think miles told him to leave when hammond is our only player over 6'8 left on the roster? Not say he did, not saying he didn't here....but if (hypothetically) Walter wasn't willing to do what was necessary...then yes...Miles is going to tell him to leave....regardless of what our depth looks like, You saw what bad chemistry can do to a team this year. And it is also debateable if we would have got the nice win over Michigan St. if he had not been ejected. It is possible that he was a detriment to our chemistry(not saying it was a detrimient). Agreed

You think he would mature? I would hope, but we don't need more chemistry issues... thats for sure. Thatd be my concern as well with Foster

I just don't understand this line of thinking. This team didn't fall apart so much as it just wasn't that good to begin with. I'm not saying things were all rosey...clearly they were not with some attrition...but attrition happens in college basketball and one of the guys leaving is leaving to play ball professionally. It's hard to blame TP's departure on Miles. There aren't too many guys who average 18+ in the Big 10 as a 3rd year sophomore and 4th year junior who are going to return. Its just the way it is. I also take into consideration Miles past as to what he has done and what he did no more than 380 days ago. We speak about resources but we also conveniently ignore the things that work against us. There's uncertainty because he inherited a sh!t storm. You don't erase 100 years of ineptitude over night. But maybe Rome was built in a day People also like to conveniently ignore the 2013-2014 season when attempting to explain how bad of a coach Miles is as well. Yep...that team had no business winning 10 games, let alone the 15 they won

Nah. I think we are a better team without him. Thought he should have been benched early this past season. Agreed

I just don't understand this line of thinking. This team didn't fall apart so much as it just wasn't that good to begin with. I'm not saying things were all rosey...clearly they were not with some attrition...but attrition happens in college basketball and one of the guys leaving is leaving to play ball professionally. It's hard to blame TP's departure on Miles. There aren't too many guys who average 18+ in the Big 10 as a 3rd year sophomore and 4th year junior who are going to return. Its just the way it is. I also take into consideration Miles past as to what he has done and what he did no more than 380 days ago. We speak about resources but we also conveniently ignore the things that work against us. There's uncertainty because he inherited a sh!t storm. You don't erase 100 years of ineptitude over night. But maybe Rome was built in a day

you really think miles told him to leave when hammond is our only player over 6'8 left on the roster? Not say he did, not saying he didn't here....but if (hypothetically) Walter wasn't willing to do what was necessary...then yes...Miles is going to tell him to leave....regardless of what our depth looks like, You saw what bad chemistry can do to a team this year.

Depends on the manner in which those stats come. What type of defense does he play?

Two regulars that gave us nothing that isn't relatively replaceable. agree completely. Neither was very good IMO. Pitchford was downright bad this year. Smith was up and down...the thing with him was potential....but if Watson is as advertised...we won't miss Smith much

Two regulars that gave us nothing that isn't relatively replaceable.Nu, who would make you worry? And glad you're back Shields and/or White would be the only ones on this team.

Two regulars that gave us nothing that isn't relatively replaceable.

I really struggle to say that 2015-2016 is going to automatically be miserable. Our schedule lightens up in the Big 10 next year. It's not a done deal that TP is gone, and if he isn't...even with Smith and Pitchford leaving, we are a more talented team than this year. And we still don't know how this class will finish up....with this day and age of the senior transfers....we catch fire with the right guy (i.e. maybe a Johnathan Williams) and things can change real real fast.

Transfers depend on who and why to me at this point.

Welcome back. Hopefully you aren't back just because things have turned a little negative. You are allowed to post when things are rolling as well. I'm not concerned about the way things are headed yet. I'm still pretty hopeful about Miles and Co.

Id say its different than Nate Hawkins. Hawkins shouldn't have been playing but he thought he should. Tarin should have been playing over Parker