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That's such an odd flex to keep pushing on when we've only been in the top 50% of our conference standings 8 times since Danny Nee took over the program.

It's tough. I've seen many examples how those numbers don't end up translating in a Nebraska uniform from high school or non-P6 (even P6). So that's the gamble. Or, in better terms, up to the professionals who do talent evaluation.

In Hoiberg's system? I still think we need 45% FG, 35% 3P, and/or 5+ rebounds type of players to make it work. We even lack that on our own roster.

The Athletic Department already gave you your answer to this.

That explains why I haven't been seeing $0.25 drop into my ebays yet.

Yes.

Can't say I know any of these coaches, but did this guy end up with any penalties?

All 358 NCAA teams experienced COVID. That's not unusual. What's unusual is losing so much that's you're literally the worst coach in Nebraska basketball history and refuse to adapt your philosophy or in-game schemes to have a fighting chance in the league. Hoiberg is much like Frost where he came into the league with a vastly different philosophy than the rest of the Big Ten and thought he could come in and roll over some of these teams. You look at a guy like Painter who is adamant about recruiting true centers and refuses to run zone because that's what works in the Big Ten but zone would work better in a league like the old Big East. That's a coach who exhibits situational awareness about the league he's in and adapts. Hoiberg hasn't exhibited that he can (or will) adapt. Even if we get our best recruiting classes every year, it's likely to flop until we find guys who can actually translate that into ~45% FG / ~35% 3P and can put in at least a moderate amount of defensive effort.

(Disclaimer: reading this old thread might cause flashbacks of optimism and hope) At that moment when we thought we were at Rock Bottom:

No further comments on the matter at this time: https://www.klkntv.com/nebraska-womens-basketball-moving-forward-after-dismissal-of-player-and-assistant-coach/

You might have posted this in the wrong forum..... Was this intended for the Rick Pitino coaching thread?

Skip to 7:20 to hear why Painter refuses to run zone:

#87 RPI team, #60 SOS, #228 PPG (66.9), #147 APG (13.2), #41 FG% (46.5%), #146 FT% (70.0%), #273 3P% (32.1%), #136 RPG (35.5), #129 BPG (3.68), #156 SPG (6.48) Beat #13 Texas A&M, #3 Texas, #22 Missouri (Texas was #2 in one of the polls at least). If I try to remember how I felt at the time, this wasn't an overly talented team (in regards to the definition of "talent" and "athlete"), but scrappy. The effort was there. I do also remember thinking "I don't know who I'd trust with the ball to make a shot". Looking at the stats, they clearly played Doc-style tempo, but wow... solid 2-point shooting. Three-point shooting was to be desired. I would take an average team with grit and tenacity than a highest-rated squad in Nebraska basketball history that flops. Makes you appreciate those prior teams even more.

Worst score gets dropped at the very end, so maybe that will help. Then again, I think we've all had some pretty bad picks already.

I said there was a chance it would have occurred given similar scenarios. I work around data all the time and environment and context matters. I felt this additional context was relevant and mentioned such. That is all. I'm not sure why this got so much attention, and I guess I'm still a bit confused by that, if I struck something or not. No bad blood, whatsoever, definitely appreciate your contributions on this board.

Once again. I'm not arguing that Hoiberg is the worst coach in Nebraska basketball history.

More power to you for making the games. If you had to take a wild guess, what percentage would you say the arena has been full lately?

Nobody? "...but given a 20-conference slate with even recent coaches, it likely isn't as uncommon as the OP has alluded to." I said that a with a 20-conference slate, it wouldn't be all that common for those coaches to have experience a 20-loss season. Nobody said that 3 years of 20-loss seasons was common. Understand what the argument is before introducing completely different arguments.

Game #26 vs. Maryland Results (74-90 L) Picked NU: 18 (42%) Average NU Score: 71.7 Average Opp Score: 74.2 Average HHCC Score: 45.1 Median HHCC Score: 45.0 Mode HHCC Score: 34 1 Handy Johnson -27 2 BLB115 8 3 1sdpad2 14 4 emwilliams 14 5 demone 24 6 DudeAbides 30 7 hal9000 30 8 Crush78 31 9 Huskerpapa 32 10 roscoe 32 11 NUtball 34 12 REDZONEDAN 34 13 Vinny 34 14 hskr4life 35 15 huskers29 35 16 ConkintheCorner 36 17 cornfed24-7 36 18 Cowboy Kermit 36 19 Cazzie22 38 20 Noah121 39 21 BjoeHusker 44 22 Busch Light 45 23 KenPom 45 24 HuskerFever 46 25 Ralph Wiggum 50 26 Silverbacked1 54 27 twinswingohuskers 55 28 bb33ch 57 29 hhcmatt 59 30 HuscurAdam 62 31 UnicamMan 62 32 aphilso1 63 33 AuroranHusker 63 34 Nebrasketball1979 63 35 Jurgey 64 36 brfrad 66 37 jimmykc 67 38 nuhusker7 67 39 thrasher31 69 40 LNKtrnsplnt 70 41 SkersHoops 72 42 TheNovice 73 43 throwback 79

It's hard to put a finger on the identity of this team. But it's not worth putting in the effort to figure that out if they're not going to put in the effort to play for 40 minutes. That is all. HHCC Standings - End of Week 15 1 KenPom 835 NC 2 Ralph Wiggum 862 NC 3 ConkintheCorner 906 U1 4 LNKtrnsplnt 915 D1 5 BLB115 926 U5 6 Crush78 934 U1 7 BjoeHusker 947 D1 8 HuskerFever 948 D3 9 Cazzie22 953 NC 10 demone 969 U3 11 hskr4life 973 U1 12 brfrad 978 D4 13 aphilso1 987 D2 14 Vinny 991 U1 15 NUtball 998 U1 16 Noah121 1018 U2 17 TheNovice 1021 D3 18 hhcmatt 1039 U1 19 Busch Light 1040 U2 20 roscoe 1042 U2 21 jimmykc 1052 D1 22 Bugeaters1 1076 D5 23 UnicamMan 1087 NC 24 AuroranHusker 1089 NC 25 emwilliams 1094 U2 26 Huskerpapa 1101 D1 27 hal9000 1117 U1 28 REDZONEDAN 1131 U3 29 1sdpad2 1142 U5 30 SkersHoops 1142 D4 31 bb33ch 1154 D1 32 throwback 1168 D3 33 Silverbacked1 1179 NC 34 doc1394 1225 D2 35 tcp 1278 NC 36 basketballjones 1288 NC 37 Nebrasketball1979 1290 U1 38 Handy Johnson 1294 U2 39 4NUfans 1315 D2 40 Cowboy Kermit 1329 D1 41 twinswingohuskers 1397 U1 42 huskers29 1433 U2 43 MichHusker 1435 D2 44 NeeandMe 1485 D1 45 cornfed24-7 1530 NC 46 nuhusker7 1612 NC 47 DudeAbides 1645 U2 48 HuscurAdam 1650 NC 49 huskerbaseball13 1657 D2 50 Jurgey 1688 NC 51 uneblinstu 1967 NC 52 northwillriseagain 2046 NC 53 HolyBobpilgrimage 2057 NC 54 BugeaterZ 2096 NC 55 pmd9 2135 NC 56 The Jazz Huddle 2147 NC 57 Rosno 2170 NC 58 nubest79 2184 NC 59 NU Follower 2191 NC 60 75unlgrad 2336 NC 61 Husker Hoops Penitent 2339 NC 62 bigred4 2345 NC 63 EAbby 2359 NC 64 dustystehl 2386 NC 65 colhusker 2470 NC 66 hguy44 2481 NC 67 Blindcheck 2510 NC 68 huskerbill85 2519 NC 69 jsthusker 2547 NC 70 Go Big Fred 2555 NC 71 thrasher31 2604 U4 72 Nighthawk 2611 D1 73 Nebrasketballin 2619 D1 74 Jugular 2620 D1 75 Red Don 2636 D1 76 timofarmer 2642 NC 77 Buglem 2648 NC 78 jayschool 2676 NC 79 Ron Mexico 2679 NC 80 CanadianHusker 2691 NC 81 HuskerPower #nato73 2691 NC 82 Bill Self's Toupee 2697 NC 83 bball23 2700 NC 84 CamHuskerbballfan 2712 NC 85 Swan88 2741 NC 86 jason2486 2744 NC 87 HuskerCager 2748 NC Biggest Rise BLB115 U5 Biggest Fall Bugeaters1 D5 (U# = Up, D# = Down, NC = No Change)

Nobody said it was.

Completely agree on that point. I mean, I pointed out the fact that he's statistically the worst coach in Nebraska basketball history (men's and women's). But cherry picking "ESPN" stats can be misleading. Yes, he has 20-loss seasons in every year but given a 20-conference slate with even recent coaches, it likely isn't as uncommon as the OP has alluded to.

Regardless of instigation, escalation, etc. where it brewed up to that point, I don't know how you can expect your players to act professionally if your own coaches can't do that themselves.

Let's not overblow this too much. Had some of our prior coaches had 20-game conference seasons, there's a chance Miles could have had 4 20-loss seasons, Sadler with 2, Collier with 2, Nee with 4, etc.