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Petteway

It's more complete. But do we have a petteway who can put us on his back

Even more so than that...not even in the next 10 either. Have a hard time seeing Roby or Tshimanga not a part of the top 25 freshmen in the conference

Terrible

We wont get that many. We already have Agau. And I don't see more than 3 more spots opening up this fall

Of course everyone has off nights. But supposedly for our best player who is a 4 year starter and all Big 10 honoree....it happened more than you'd like it too.

Agreed with kldm. Shavon is/was a very good player for us. But he had some real stinkers for us. Creighton, of course. He had a handful of games at the beginning of the Big 10 were he wasn't very good. Most remember him coming back strong after the injuries with some real good games against Penn State and Purdue and the conference tourney....but there were some real winnable games early on in the conference play where he was off.

Some of the points CWG mentioned is why I am still optimistic for this year. I'd feel better if White was still here....but I still think we can be competitive. Mostly because we now have a complete lineup. Miles has even spoke about it in the past, about having empty minutes. In the past, we had times where we would have 1,2 or even 3 guys on the floor who were simply no threat to score. Teams left Parker practically unguarded at times and we couldn't make them pay for it. We'll, for the first time, be putting a lineup on the floor where all 5 guys have the ability to produce. We may not have the definitive go to guy to show for it right now...but we'll have 5 guys instead of 3 that can do something. That takes a lot of pressure off.

Considering he had what....7-8 scholarship guys his first year...and two of them were true frosh (one of which missed most of the non-con) and another was coming off a redshirt after unproductive freshmen and sophomore seasons...I think it's fair to acknowledge that's less than ideal. Talley was solid. Ubel had a solid senior season. Gallegos developed. But that team was pretty thin. Winning 15 games and staying competitive that year may have been as big an accomplishment as the NCAA the next. Also think that the shape of the roster he inherited had an impact on how he was going to build the roster over the first several years here. Had he had more talent in the ranks, he may not have taken a chance on so many transfers early on.

I like Miles and I think everyone here remembers my feelings on Sadler and Collier. But I don't think it is unfair to compare the three after 4 years. I think it needs to account for several factors when it's done...but I think the comparison is fair. Miles has built up a lot of good will with the NCAA run and the increase of talent on paper. He inherited a mess from Sadler, has attempted to actually play some teams in the non-con, and has been in the Big 10 full time (unlike the others). But has also had the new arena and practice facility as well. At some point in time...it does come down to wins and losses. I don't think we are at that point yet....but it's getting close. That talent has to translate.

Pretty sure Nova and Clemson aren't necessarily coming here. Wasn't Nova the Gavitt Tip-Off Classic and Clemson as part of the ACC/Big 10Yes but I'm under the assumption that they always have a return game, not sure about the Gavitt Tip off since that is new, but atleast in the ACC/Big Ten. No guarantee of a return game

Pretty sure Nova and Clemson aren't necessarily coming here. Wasn't Nova the Gavitt Tip-Off Classic and Clemson as part of the ACC/Big 10

Not sure he really surpassed expectations last year.In my opinion they did. Taking in to account 6 newcomers who didn't play D1 Basketball the previous year, the lack of size to defend the post, and Shavons injury I was pleased with the season.If Shavon doesn't go down we for sure win one more regular season game and potentially up to 3 more. That would have put us at 15 to 17 regular season wins plus however we did in the tourney (since our draw would have been different with a better record). But like I said that is just my opinion. I like Miles....but the lack of size is/was on him so I don't consider that as an excuse in my expectations. Could also make a case for the amount of newcomers too. And I don't think Shavon's injury cost us 3 more. 1 at best. Ohio State. And even with that...had the appropriate foul been called on Glynn's final shot..we win that.

Not sure he really surpassed expectations last year. there weren't really any expectations last year. I certainly didn't expect an NCAA bid....but I expected better than 16 wins and a home loss to Samford.

Not sure he really surpassed expectations last year.

Here is our RPI last year Here is our RPI if we drop our win vs Arkansas Pine Bluff (RPI 311) Obviously both of these records aren't good enough to make it into the tournament but notice how our RPI and SOS moves up slightly when you take out that win? Here is what it looks like when you take out the Ark-LR game and add in a Div II win. To me it's equally as worthless as a 300 RPI win without the RPI hit. I think there are times where a win counts more than 3-4 spots in the RPI. Think of it this way. Say we go 8-4. The .500 in conference and win one in the big ten. That's only 17-14 against d1 teams. That's a hard sell. May seem small, but 18 wins carries more weight than 17

It will count in your win total but not towards your RPI. UNO plays a game like that every year against Iowa Western or some other team of that level. I'd consider us and UNO to be in different positions

Have a hard time seeing that win count on a resume

Just depends on how good we are. Certainly creates a major uphill battle. As I said above...if we make the dance...we will have more than earned it

The more I think about this...the less I like this schedule

I understand that...but I can hope. I don't like the way this shapes up for us.

I'd go find 2 patsies...even 300 level RPI teams to add two wins. Move the University of Mary to an exhibition game

Is this the year that we play in NYC a week early for our conference tourney and is their potential for us to play a game inbetween that tourney and the NCAA tourney? I had the wrong year. It's DC this year and NYC in 2018. Not really sure why we aren't playing 13 non-conf games Really hope we're looking to add some. Don't think this is a good situation for us.

I think it's Southern. Gardner-Webb graduated a lot of guys and Southern is typically among the top of the SWAC pile. Both games will be during the winter break though My only question is the University of Mary game...that won't count against our RPI right? In addition...that game likely won't be on our win/loss numbers if we are luckly enough to be on the Nitty Gritty report right? That would be my only concern from a total number of wins standpoint...not sure if College Basketball works like it does with Baseball. Doesn't count against us in the RPI but also doesn't count for us.

Hard to disagree until Miles actually beats them. It's only one game but I think that's a pretty important one for him this year. Probably will be pretty close to a pick em at home. Hate to say it...but I think Creighton will be pretty good this year.