Chuck Taylor

It's only hands down if you go by ppg. I think the voting will be tight, and it's not because everybody's stupid or because there's an anti-Husker bias. It's because you're looking at two players who had outstanding seasons.

Bryce isn't going to get robbed if Branham wins it. Branham has had a LOT more impact on the Big Ten by being the second leading scorer on one of the top teams. Bryce's scoring average is higher because he plays more minutes and takes more shots: Bryce: 40.3% fg, 27.9% 3s, 372 shots, 33 minutes/game Branham: 48.6% fg, 44.1% 3s, 245 shots, 28 minutes/game Only Husker fans see Bryce as the runaway choice for FOY. The argument for Branham is just as compelling.

One option is a mid/lower head coach who gets fired this spring. A lot of those guys got their jobs because they were top-notch assistants.

I'd like to see how they play when they don't shoot 65% on 3s in the next two games. What team isn't enthused when they're shooting out of their minds?

Went out to eat with the family and didn't watch. But shooting 65% on 3s cures a lot of ills.

Didn't have the same coach, however. I'd venture to say none of the teams in that list featured coaches with 3 horrible seasons who had giant rebounds in the 4th. Most either were new hires or were rebounding after one bad season.

I just noticed that Luke Jungers of Creighton Prep is shooting .467 on 3s this year. He's a 6-9 commit to UNO.

Great find, I was thinking about that and considering doing some research. Guess I'll take a nap instead. One thing that might have been mentioned but I haven't seen it: Trev got thrown into a tough spot with this program. Giving Fred an extra year allows him to thoroughly research a replacement. The likelihood of this getting turned around in a year is pretty low.

Thanks for the summary, that was exactly when the game turned. I'd point out that Verge didn't put his touch on the drought till the end. I get that Verge doesn't share the ball well, but he shot 50%, 5 rbs, 7 asts w/2 TO, 4 stls. That's a great line, no matter how he looked. As a previous poster noted, this game was lost on defense. We shot 51%, 44% on 3s and 80% on FTs with only 10 turnovers. We might have looked like crap on offense, but we didn't play like crap.

Pleeeease keep Rock Bottom. It's a touchstone for Husker misery (pun intended).

The school is nothing but a hype train with all the money spent of promotion. And you're right about Fred and Matt, they're the ones spoon feeding carp to the "press." I put quotes around it because there's no journalism involved, just PR. But good luck getting it to stop. Frost's record is abysmal but we're already hearing about how all their new assistant coaches are Vince Lombardi, Bear Bryant and Pop Warner. For god's sake, quit saying it, prove it.

Iowa (45) and Nebraska (13) are the only Big Ten teams in the top 100 for adjusted tempo.

Tryonn Lue on line 1. Erick Strickland on line 2. Eric Piatkowski on line 3 .... They all impacted winning and played 10+ years in the NBA. Bryce just has the most points on one of the worst teams in school history. He might be a 1st round draft pick (though not as high as Rich King). I doubt he'll be a star in the NBA or play 10+ years.

Got me to wondering how many teams with first-round picks had losing records. It's unusual, but there has been at least one every year the last 5 years: 2021 Josh Christopher Ariz St. 11-14* 2020 Aaron Nesmith Vanderbilt 11-21 2019 Darius Garland Vanderbilt 9-23 2018 Josh Okogie Georgia Tech 13-19 2017 Markelle Fultz Washington 9-22 * Played with Verge

Watch us play Iowa, same thing.

Fair enough, agree on both Dotzler and Ovbody. From what I've seen and heard, the 2023 and 2024 classes are down a lot. Kind of ironic that we now seem to be getting interested in instate recruiting. Or not.

A question for you: Do you think the flood of instate talent the last few years has ebbed with this year's class? I'm not that excited about anybody in 2023 or 2024. I think Dotzler is a solid D1 kid, but he's nowhere near the level of Traudt or Green, for example. I've heard UNO might offer Odvody from Westside. Not sure of anyone else from 2023 getting much notice. Brennon Clemmons maybe?

Man, my one wish for Husker fandom: Can we quit talking about the *(*&$ing statue we're going to build? It just drives me nuts, the epitome of "delusional." Hey, things suck now but some day we're going to great and we'll win a bunch of games and we'll stand up and cheer and our student section will be like the Cameron Crazies and our coach will be a hall of famer and we'll have a big parade AND THEN we'll build a statue! I'd just like the program to put one foot out and then the next foot and be actually going somewhere. Honestly, just something that shows that somewhere at DONU somebody knows what they're doing when it comes to basketball. That's my dream. Sorry for the rant.

I don't buy that. We may never be a permanent fixture in the top 4 in the league (at least not in my lifetime), but we can become a solid middle-of-the-pack team that makes the NCAA more often than not. It's not THAT hard. Honestly, the one thing we need is somebody in the administration who gives a damn about basketball. And have that person talk with people outside the NU program who actually know the sport because there isn't a top-notch basketball guy on the staff. Schools like Iowa State and Kansas State aren't perennial top 10 programs, but they really care about hoops and they have people in their programs who understand the sport. There's no reason we can't reach AT LEAST that level. KState has made it to the NCAA 9 times in the last 20 years and they're unhappy. Iowa State has made it 9 times and they fired their coach last year, even though he had the team in the 2019 tourney as a 6 seed. Basketball isn't something to pass the time between football and spring football, like it is for most of our fans (present company excluded obviously). And they have people inside the administration who understand the sport because it's important to them.

FTFY

I'd be fine with consolidating the Fire Fred threads, but for the love of God, don't touch ROCK BOTTOM. It must endure.

Basketball, always. I think we get this one to move one step closer to falling short of 10 wins.

Sure, they want the paycheck, but they also are looking for opportunity. That's why Dana Altman went to Oregon: he wanted to get to a Final Four (which he did). Neither Mack nor Pitino sees DONU as an opportunity, and Slick Rick is 70. If we were going to throw a pile of money at a big name, i'd throw it at Altman. He might want to get back closer to family.

Mack, Pitino: too much baggage, they'd only take the job for the paycheck, not because they want to be here Capel, Crean, Amaker: mediocre record in P5 jobs. Boals, Gates, Brown: "hot names" now, but lack the track record to merit the job. I'd look for someone with sustained excellence as a head coach, 5-6 years at least. Porter Moser: Yes, except he's not leaving OU after one year. None of the above. I've mentioned this on other threads, but Steve Pikiell at Rutgers had the resume I'd look for: consistent winner at Stony Brook, but he never made the big splash in the NCAA so he was never the "hot name." I'd scour the Summit, MVC, MWC and other leagues in the midwest for someone with a similar profile. Ben Jacobson at Northern Iowa is interesting, although his teams tend to be slow, grind it out types. Might work in the Big Ten, though.

Purgatory would look good about now.