NCAA Rules -- Additional Eligibility. Someone help me out here.

[Norm Peterson]

I saw a discussion over on a football board about whether Taylor Martinez would be able to gain an extra year of eligibility under the NCAA hardship rules.  Most everyone was saying he would not be able to get a 6th year because he redshirted his first season for reasons other than injury.

 

But then someone posted the (actual?) rule language, which apparently reads as follows:

 

NCAA Bylaw 14.2.4, Hardship Waiver, provides that a
student-athlete may be granted an additional year of competition by the
conference or the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement for reasons of
"hardship", which is defined as an incapacity resulting from an
injury or illness that has occurred under all of the following conditions:

a.      The incapacitating injury or illness occurs in one of the four seasons of intercollegiate
competition at any two-year or four-year collegiate institutions or occurs
after the first day of classes in the student-athlete's senior year in high
school;
 

b.     The injury or illness occurs prior to the first competition of the second half of
the playing season that concludes with the NCAA championship in that sport (see
Bylaw 14.2.4.3.4) and results in incapacity to compete for the remainder of
that playing season;

c.      In team sports, the injury or illness occurs when the student-athlete has not
participated in more than three contests or dates of competition (whichever is
applicable to that sport) or 30 percent (whichever number is greater) of the
institution's scheduled or completed contests or dates of competition in his or
her sport. Only scheduled or completed competition against outside participants
during the playing season that concludes with the NCAA championship, or, if so
designated, during the official NCAA championship playing season in that sport
(e.g., spring baseball, fall soccer), shall be countable under this limitation
in calculating both the number of contests or dates of competition in which the
student-athlete has participated and the number of scheduled or completed
contests or dates of competition during that season in the sport.  Dates
of competition that are exempted (e.g., alumni contests, foreign team in U.S.)
from the maximum permissible number of contests or dates of competition shall
count toward the number of contests or dates in which the student-athlete has participated
and the number of scheduled or completed contests or dates of competition in
the season, except for scrimmages and exhibition contests that are specifically
identified as such in the sport's Bylaw 17 playing and practice season
regulations.  Scrimmages and exhibition contests that are not exempted
from the maximum permissible number of contests or dates of competition may be
excluded from the calculation only if they are identified as such by in the
sport's Bylaw 17 playing and practice season regulations; and

d.       In individual sports, the injury or illness occurs when the student-athlete has not
participated in more than three dates of competition or 30 percent (whichever
number is greater) of the maximum permissible number of dates of competition as
set forth in Bylaw 17 plus one date for a conference championship (e.g., gymnastics:
13+1=14, wrestling: 16+1=17), regardless of whether the team participates in
the conference championship, provided the institution is a member of a
conference and the conference holds a championship event in the applicable
sport. Dates of competition that are exempted(e.g., alumni contests, foreign
team in U.S.) from the maximum permissible number of dates of competition do
not count toward the number of dates in which the student-athlete has
participated.

 

So, the argument is, apparently, that Taylor Martinez actually meets the requirements for a hardship extra season of eligibility.  He's only played in 3 games all of which occurred during the first half of the season.

 

But, if that's the case ... didn't Toney McCray also qualify?  He missed a whole season for a redshirt his freshman year and then missed more than 70% of the season including the entire last half of the year when he would have been a junior, right?

 

We had an open scholarship spot last year.  There would have been room for him.  And I think he qualified under the rules quoted above, so ...

 

Why didn't Toney McCray get an extra year?  Did we just not want another year of Toney?

[TheKamdyMan]

You can always apply but getting it is much harder.  The only people that end up getting that extra year are guys that missed two seasons to injury.  A guy like Sean Fisher could've applied after losing two years.  

[nustudent]

There are countless examples of guys getting a sixth year, without losing a year to injury prior to the injury in question.

 

We could've got McCray's year back had we wanted.

[FredsSlacks]

If Gibbs can do it, why can't martinez?

[a0t0w0]

I have mixed feelings when it comes to McCray, but it would have been great to have him another year.  Each year I had high hopes he would get it together and play a bigger role, but between injuries and what appeared to be a case of apathy, it just didn't seem to happen.  Maybe things would have came together in that extra year. 

 

The Martinez conversation will get interesting if he's not back after the bye week.  I thought the whole qb controversy argument was dumb, but every week it gets stronger.  If TA ends up starting the rest of the season and meets expectations, will TM even play a role if he's given an extra year?

 

Dangerous situation for Bo.  If TM comes back after the bye week and struggles Bo will be on an even hotter seat.  If TM gets another year and the team doesn't rack up more than 9 wins fans will be steaming.  Bo's future appears to be riding on one player right now...

[Norm Peterson]

I have mixed feelings when it comes to McCray, but it would have been great to have him another year.  Each year I had high hopes he would get it together and play a bigger role, but between injuries and what appeared to be lack of apathy, it just didn't seem to happen.  Maybe things would have came together in that extra year. 

 

The Martinez conversation will get interesting if he's not back after the bye week.  I thought the whole qb controversy argument was dumb, but every week it gets stronger.  If TA ends up starting the rest of the season and meets expectations, will TM even play a role if he's given an extra year?

 

Dangerous situation for Bo.  If TM comes back after the bye week and struggles Bo will be on an even hotter seat.  If TM gets another year and the team doesn't rack up more than 9 wins fans will be steaming.  Bo's future appears to be riding on one player right now...

Some days, I wish I had a lack of apathy.  But most of the time, I just don't care.

[a0t0w0]

Yeah Yeah, Norm.  I edited it right after I posted. 

 

I'm all hopped up on cold medicine.  Give me a break.

[Bugeaters1]

Yeah Yeah, Norm.  I edited it right after I posted. 

 

I'm all hopped up on cold medicine.  Give me a break.

Did Cip give you the NyQuil shots ?

[trickey]

 

Yeah Yeah, Norm.  I edited it right after I posted. 

 

I'm all hopped up on cold medicine.  Give me a break.

Did Cip give you the NyQuil shots ?

 

Damn, Cip deals in Salsa AND NyQuil....and I have never met him!

 

Yet!