Remaining Recruits

[colhusker]

 

 

 

 

 

 

i like the plan of nailing down and getting a commit from Gilmore and allowing the potential third scholorship (likely parker) to get Bolden that would give us a really nice looking roster

With another big, "wacker" I see vooch heading out about as much as Benny. You think that would be used as a late addition for 2014 or 15?

 

i cant see vooch walking he seems like he likes it here, and to be honest i think he's about to make some waves this year in limited action, Benny tho may get lost in the shuffle(and i like benny) as Tai, Ray, Petteway, Biggs can all handle the ball, he is to small to be a 2 guard and with Hawkins, and Fuller here as well i just dont see a lot of playing time in 2014 depends if he wants to stick it out and fight for PT in 2015. ive always been of the mindset you hold on to 7 footers you can always ask peltz or other walk on guards to contribute what benny brings to the table with possible better results.

 

Benny > Peltz and it's not close.

 

you missed the point...you cant keep benny on if dosnt improve this season which i hope he does, as i like his defense. But if he dosnt you keeping a guy on schollie that is 5'8'' maybe, dosnt have much of a offensive game and is log jammed at guard for mintues. by potentially wasting the schollie and not giving it to a big foward or bigger guard, when you could just as easily release benny should he not improve and give those mintues to lets say peltz or another walk on who isnt taking up roster space and can contribute something simliar to what benny gives. I like benny but if his offensive game dosnt improve were playing 4 on 5 whenever he is on the court because no team respects his outside jumper.

 

I understood your point, just after reading about Peltz before last year, well I bought into the hype and was very disappointed.

 

 

You were unimpressed by a walk-on that everyone knew before the season required knee surgery but played through it because they didnt have enough players?  Well when you read that sentence I just wrote again I would hope you were.  I hope you werent expecting a lot from him.  The guy was going to a D-2 school before walking on to Nebraska.  Hes a good ball handler but thats about it.  I think if he'd been healthy you would have seen a better side of him but to think he'd be a huge part of the time is just going in with rose colored glasses.

 

Kamdy not everyone knew he needed knee surgery, might have been everyone but me, but thus not everyone.  I also understand WHY he got the minutes he did and maybe my glasses were too rose colored based on what I read.  I guess I worded that I would prefer Parker gets the minutes this year and not Peltz poorly and that imo, Parker is a much better option.

[TheKamdyMan]

 

 

 

You were unimpressed by a walk-on that everyone knew before the season required knee surgery but played through it because they didnt have enough players?  Well when you read that sentence I just wrote again I would hope you were.  I hope you werent expecting a lot from him.  The guy was going to a D-2 school before walking on to Nebraska.  Hes a good ball handler but thats about it.  I think if he'd been healthy you would have seen a better side of him but to think he'd be a huge part of the time is just going in with rose colored glasses.

 

Kamdy not everyone knew he needed knee surgery, might have been everyone but me, but thus not everyone.  I also understand WHY he got the minutes he did and maybe my glasses were too rose colored based on what I read.  I guess I worded that I would prefer Parker gets the minutes this year and not Peltz poorly and that imo, Parker is a much better option.

 

 

I think anyone would expect a guy that had 6 D-1 offers to be better than a guy with none.  But if guy with no offers can provide almost the same level of play statistically that 6 offers guy can and you can show 6 offer guy the door for someone more highly regarded I am all for it.  I think we'd all take Gilmore, Bolden, Solomon, etc if it meant Benny were gone.  Hes a great person but he will be limited in what he can provide NU that someone else couldnt do.  

 

I look at it like the WAR stat in baseball.  WAR if youre not familiar with it stands for Wins Above Replacement.  Meaning if a player for a team was replaced with the average player at that position how many wins for your team does that good player give you over said average player.  Benny's WAR stat so far wouldnt be any better than Peltz or even Menke for that matter.  Benny isnt going to win you any games above a replacement player so youd want to find a guy that CAN raise your WAR stats. 

[colhusker]

 

 

 

 

You were unimpressed by a walk-on that everyone knew before the season required knee surgery but played through it because they didnt have enough players?  Well when you read that sentence I just wrote again I would hope you were.  I hope you werent expecting a lot from him.  The guy was going to a D-2 school before walking on to Nebraska.  Hes a good ball handler but thats about it.  I think if he'd been healthy you would have seen a better side of him but to think he'd be a huge part of the time is just going in with rose colored glasses.

 

Kamdy not everyone knew he needed knee surgery, might have been everyone but me, but thus not everyone.  I also understand WHY he got the minutes he did and maybe my glasses were too rose colored based on what I read.  I guess I worded that I would prefer Parker gets the minutes this year and not Peltz poorly and that imo, Parker is a much better option.

 

 

I think anyone would expect a guy that had 6 D-1 offers to be better than a guy with none.  But if guy with no offers can provide almost the same level of play statistically that 6 offers guy can and you can show 6 offer guy the door for someone more highly regarded I am all for it.  I think we'd all take Gilmore, Bolden, Solomon, etc if it meant Benny were gone.  Hes a great person but he will be limited in what he can provide NU that someone else couldnt do.  

 

I look at it like the WAR stat in baseball.  WAR if youre not familiar with it stands for Wins Above Replacement.  Meaning if a player for a team was replaced with the average player at that position how many wins for your team does that good player give you over said average player.  Benny's WAR stat so far wouldnt be any better than Peltz or even Menke for that matter.  Benny isnt going to win you any games above a replacement player so youd want to find a guy that CAN raise your WAR stats. 

 

Oh I agree if we can upgrade do so.  I am also a fan of OB% with baseball stats.

[bobcat402]

 

 

 

 

You were unimpressed by a walk-on that everyone knew before the season required knee surgery but played through it because they didnt have enough players?  Well when you read that sentence I just wrote again I would hope you were.  I hope you werent expecting a lot from him.  The guy was going to a D-2 school before walking on to Nebraska.  Hes a good ball handler but thats about it.  I think if he'd been healthy you would have seen a better side of him but to think he'd be a huge part of the time is just going in with rose colored glasses.

 

Kamdy not everyone knew he needed knee surgery, might have been everyone but me, but thus not everyone.  I also understand WHY he got the minutes he did and maybe my glasses were too rose colored based on what I read.  I guess I worded that I would prefer Parker gets the minutes this year and not Peltz poorly and that imo, Parker is a much better option.

 

 

I think anyone would expect a guy that had 6 D-1 offers to be better than a guy with none.  But if guy with no offers can provide almost the same level of play statistically that 6 offers guy can and you can show 6 offer guy the door for someone more highly regarded I am all for it.  I think we'd all take Gilmore, Bolden, Solomon, etc if it meant Benny were gone.  Hes a great person but he will be limited in what he can provide NU that someone else couldnt do.  

 

I look at it like the WAR stat in baseball.  WAR if youre not familiar with it stands for Wins Above Replacement.  Meaning if a player for a team was replaced with the average player at that position how many wins for your team does that good player give you over said average player.  Benny's WAR stat so far wouldnt be any better than Peltz or even Menke for that matter.  Benny isnt going to win you any games above a replacement player so youd want to find a guy that CAN raise your WAR stats. 

 

kamdy explained my point much better than i ever tried to..thanks man.

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i like the plan of nailing down and getting a commit from Gilmore and allowing the potential third scholorship (likely parker) to get Bolden that would give us a really nice looking roster

With another big, "wacker" I see vooch heading out about as much as Benny. You think that would be used as a late addition for 2014 or 15?

 

i cant see vooch walking he seems like he likes it here, and to be honest i think he's about to make some waves this year in limited action, Benny tho may get lost in the shuffle(and i like benny) as Tai, Ray, Petteway, Biggs can all handle the ball, he is to small to be a 2 guard and with Hawkins, and Fuller here as well i just dont see a lot of playing time in 2014 depends if he wants to stick it out and fight for PT in 2015. ive always been of the mindset you hold on to 7 footers you can always ask peltz or other walk on guards to contribute what benny brings to the table with possible better results.

 

Benny > Peltz and it's not close.

 

you missed the point...you cant keep benny on if dosnt improve this season which i hope he does, as i like his defense. But if he dosnt you keeping a guy on schollie that is 5'8'' maybe, dosnt have much of a offensive game and is log jammed at guard for mintues. by potentially wasting the schollie and not giving it to a big foward or bigger guard, when you could just as easily release benny should he not improve and give those mintues to lets say peltz or another walk on who isnt taking up roster space and can contribute something simliar to what benny gives. I like benny but if his offensive game dosnt improve were playing 4 on 5 whenever he is on the court because no team respects his outside jumper.

 

I understood your point, just after reading about Peltz before last year, well I bought into the hype and was very disappointed.

 

What "hype" ?  I don't remember the hyperbole going crazy.  IIRC, he was a pretty important part of the getting the season off to a really solid start, which laid the foundation for the season being a pleasant surprise.   He ran into confidence ( shooting ) issues and then injury issues.   He went to war for my team= I love the guy.   He was not touted as much of a scorer unless you go back to his HS days.   He and Benny both struggled with confidence with their shot as the season and stakes got higher (understandable considering neither of them were high end recruits ).   We just discussed on this board what a woeful shot Andre Woolridge was his FR year, it's just not uncommon for a first year guy regardless ( Jaron Boone struggled with his shot and free throws his FR year too ).   I don't expect Mike or Benny to play much this year, because of the increased competition and their ceiling is likely not very high let's face it...just trying to defend them a bit.