Nebrasketballer Posted July 12, 2013 Report Posted July 12, 2013 https://twitter.com/CoachMiles/status/355536313887371265 Quote
Nebrasketballer Posted July 12, 2013 Author Report Posted July 12, 2013 Excerpt from article: -I exclude players that used a low number of possessions on the season. Thus I am basically talking about mid-level or strong freshmen at each program. If a freshman is just hoping to keep a scholarship, none of the above analysis really applies. -I drop players with injuries. I.e. Nerlens Noel and Kyrie Irving are not included in this calculation. -Finally, it matters a lot whether a coach is engaged in a rebuilding year. For example, Tim Miles has basically gone from one rebuilding job at Colorado St. to the next at Nebraska. I attempt to control for rebuilding jobs and that moves Tim Miles down some. But even after accounting for this, Miles has still been unusually committed to freshmen. For example, last year Nebraska’s Benny Parker had dreadful measured stats; but Miles stuck with him. In 2008 at Colorado St. Adam Nigon never shot and wasn’t efficient; Miles stuck with him. Nigon eventually became a productive senior for Colorado St. And Miles really stuck with Pierce Hornung at Colorado St. As a freshman Hornung was undersized and afraid to shoot - he wasn’t even a great rebounder yet - but Miles stuck with him. Hornung eventually became one of the all-time greatest rebounders in college basketball. Providence’s Ed Cooley has had a similar profile to Miles. He has faced rebuilding jobs at Fairfield and Providence, but he has also been even more committed to freshmen than the typical coach. Favoring Freshmen, Major Conference Coaches with at least 5 Years as HC Fr Rel to Soph - Team - Coach 6.1% - Nebraska - Tim Miles 4.5% - Providence - Ed Cooley 3.0% - Kentucky - John Calipari 1.6% - Texas - Rick Barnes 1.3% - Santa Clara - Kerry Keating 0.8% - Oklahoma St. - Travis Ford 0.4% - Drake - Ray Giacoletti -0.9% - George Mason - Paul Hewitt -0.9% - Alabama - Anthony Grant -1.0% - Colorado St. - Larry Eustachy http://basketball.realgm.com/article/228847/Freshmen-Playing-Time-Part-2 Quote
Huskerpapa Posted July 12, 2013 Report Posted July 12, 2013 It would seem to me that any incoming freshman or recruit would get pretty excited when reading this... Nebrasketballer 1 Quote
atskooc Posted July 12, 2013 Report Posted July 12, 2013 It would seem to me that any incoming freshman or recruit would get pretty excited when reading this... Except for the ones who don't play, or who rarely play. Those guys were all but forgotten when compiling this list. Quote
hhcmatt Posted July 12, 2013 Report Posted July 12, 2013 It would seem to me that any incoming freshman or recruit would get pretty excited when reading this... Except for the ones who don't play, or who rarely play. Those guys were all but forgotten when compiling this list. That's not the point of this article/list though. Simplistically, the question is 'If you're good enough to play as a freshman, will you?' Check out part 1 of the article for the full explanation. Nebrasketballer 1 Quote
Nebrasketballer Posted July 12, 2013 Author Report Posted July 12, 2013 It would seem to me that any incoming freshman or recruit would get pretty excited when reading this... Except for the ones who don't play, or who rarely play. Those guys were all but forgotten when compiling this list. That's not the point of this article/list though. Simplistically, the question is 'If you're good enough to play as a freshman, will you?' Check out part 1 of the article for the full explanation. I didn't want to post the whole list from the link you posted, because it's pretty long, but here is the percentage for Tim Miles: PctMinFr - Coach - Team 21% - Tim Miles - Nebraska Quote
hhcmatt Posted July 12, 2013 Report Posted July 12, 2013 It would seem to me that any incoming freshman or recruit would get pretty excited when reading this... Except for the ones who don't play, or who rarely play. Those guys were all but forgotten when compiling this list. That's not the point of this article/list though. Simplistically, the question is 'If you're good enough to play as a freshman, will you?' Check out part 1 of the article for the full explanation. I didn't want to post the whole list from the link you posted, because it's pretty long, but here is the percentage for Tim Miles: PctMinFr - Coach - Team 21% - Tim Miles - Nebraska That table from the first page is in terms of raw statistics and doesn't account for the roster. For instance, John Calapari leads at 37% of minutes because he's been fielding teams over the last 5 years that freshmen as the only option. The second article/table is playing time for freshmen relative to their output and uses Benny Parker as an example. Parker didn't have a great year. You can see it on the court and you could see it in the stats. He still received a considerable chunk of playing time. Miles did have a choice...he could have played upperclassmen walkons which is often times what Doc would do. I can only assume this all means that Surge must have looked like a train wreck in practice or worked his way into someone's dog house for him to not see the court. Nebrasketballer 1 Quote
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