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I think every AD is going to have different rules for his guy. As far as a sports being better. Men's hoops is an example that is trending downwards. But if he steps in and makes a change to improve it, this board would rip him apart. Seems to be a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. It all comes down to football and men's basketball for me. I'm still intrigued with the Riley hire. He's everything you want as a leader representing your program away from the field. Remains to be seen how successful he'll be on it. Want to see what he does with an actual QB and his guys. My guess is SE would just assume have Miles win so he doesn't have to make a change.

I still don't get the hate for Eichorst.

Not really worried about the dirty recruiting tactics on him. Two main reasons....one....eyes are on him...he has to be cleaner.....secondly...our compliance area is overly uptight on things. Not sure any coach has much of a real chance to cheat with our admin. And if he does cheat...so be it....what's going to happen....a postseason ban? We already do that to ourselves. Sampson has Houston ticking upwards. If you are going to do it...now is the time before someone else bigger notices.

So basically like us now...sans the losing seasons

Kelvin Sampson, if a change is made

FTR....I haven't. I've never said he should be fired. I said several weeks ago in the Fire Miles thread that it was fair to have the conversation and fair for people to feel that way. I have never said he should be fired. My preference all along has been and is to keep Miles. We simply can't afford to screw up this next hire, which is why I would generally wait. That doesn't mean I feel good about him or totally buy into the youth excuse though, or think people are completely off base for wanting the change. This is far different than Sadler, where I wanted him gone regardless. If you tell me we have Sampson or Hoiberg lined up, I'd be for it. But I don't buy that we do, so I'd just assume he come back for one final chance.

I have?

Top 8 last year were 2 Srs, 2 Jrs, 4 Frosh. Top 8 this year is 1 Sr, 1 Jr, 4 Soph, 2 Frosh. Lose a bit at the top but not nearly as many true freshmen having to step in and player major minutes right away.

We were relatively young last year too and we passed. And our guys hadn't played with each other nearly as much. Hard for me to buy that explanation when we opted out of it last year.

Wonder how much perception plays into that. 3rd straight losing season. Potential for a likely 3rd straight nose dive to end the season. After year 5, that's not good vibes. Wonder if they are trying to get a couple of wins to close the season out to make everyone feel just a little bit better.

That was what I was thinking as well. My guess would be preseason, all those 6-7 win predictions would have been 8-9 win predictions

Be interesting to see what these numbers were prior to the season and not at the end of the non-con (if I read the above correctly)

We desperately need Palmer or Akenten (sp?) to be very legit

Defensively, it was same ole same ole. Offensively, ran into a team with something left to play for

And 3 point offense

They havent exactly been throwing stuff up with hands in their face. When you get wide open looks most P5 teams will shoot a decent percent

2 pathetic performances in a row since the save Miles press run

Weve been a bad shooting team for a long time. Dont understand why teams dont zone us more

Definitely needs to be a shooter.

If Miles is fired. It damn well better not be for Bruce Weber

While true....the difference is that it is isolated incidents with those teams....not regular like with us

The fact of the matter is that Illinois isn't very good. They are just ok at best. In no way whatsoever, if we are as talented and well coached as we want to believe, should we be losing to that team on our home floor.

Some more than others. Whats more realistic....controlling what you can control or hoping a tiger changes his stripes (pun intended)

Wow. Stole it. Nice. Fuller had some real nice hustle plays tonight

Zone OSU is athletic. Make them shoot it.