nustudent

It doesn't matter

January and February

Games not over yet

Michigan -10.5 was free money

I'd argue big man recruiting has been worse. We've recruited some guys who can make shots We haven't recruited big men. I'd also argue that the lack of a legit post makes it more difficult for our guards/wings to hit shots. Not saying we are a great shooting team...but our issues have as much to do with ahot selection and offensive sets as it does anything else. When you don't get good looks, you are going to shoot a lower percentage.

I’ll be shocked if he’s back. Would be a hell of a building block for the new coach

Absolutely think Copeland is/was more important to this team than JPJ

Think we'll be the 13 seed. Don't see us winning again during the regular season

I think the skepticism on Lue stems from the fact that the NBA and College are different games. That and the biggest issue that has plagued every coach here since Nee....recruiting. He's never done it. Not saying he can't but there's nothing to go by. I think we can do far far worse than Lue. I'm also hoping, probably naively, that we can do better as well.

That and the down side isn't worth it. If it fails, and it probably would, we'd look even worse than we already do.

I'm not saying we take or should have taken all of those guys. My point is...we've passed on some guys who can/could help for other reaches. It's not that we passed on these guys. If we didn't like a guy....that's fine...but then make it worth it. An example, If you don't think Arop is ready. that's fine. But don't part ways with him to sign Thor. If you are going to reach....reach with one that makes sense. The issues with the in-state players arent as simple as did we offer or not. Had we had a few legit bigs...the Daum conversation isn't nearly as debated. Had we ended up with a 4-star stud averaging 15ppg after burning bridges in Omaha...that's a much different look. Had we not had a bunch of open spots over (what looks to be) a 5th losing season in 7 tries....it's a much different conversation. I don't necessarily fault Miles on many of the decisions that were made on instate players. I do fault him for the compounding decisions on top of not offering. I don't think you should offer a guy solely because h'e's local. I do think being local is something that can/should tip the scale when all else is equal though. As far as the scholarship usage...I don't believe in signing a guy for the sake of signing a guy. With that being said....I think when you are consistently down spots....that's not good either. We've had one semester where we have been full of recruited scholarship players in MIles tenure. Thats not including guys who have been hurt and/or not eligible. That's not a good use of spots either. I'll also admit that my stance on this has softened a bit too due to the day and age we are now in with the transfer market. Odds are over 50% that any 4-year player you recruit isn't going to end up finishing here. With that in mind....I'm much more open to take a borderline guy now than I'd have been in the past because of the nature of the sport. The first year or two...I thought MIles was very smart to hold on to spots while he was building and starting to bring in more and more talent. 7 years later, when you still have multiple spots available and are thin on depth and talent in certain areas...with little success to show for it....you (I ) look at it a bit differently. As far as the recruiting profiles and offers.....I think there is a big difference between taking the occasional reach/stretch and having your entire recruiting classes year after year consist of them.

No way Miles is retained at this point short of winning the big ten tournament. Don’t know how anyone can even realistically think otherwise

well said

He's not better. He's flashed more than Sadler and Collier but he's also had more pitfalls and valleys. So at the end of the day, the results are practically the same It's unfortunate. He was likeable. He was a good face to the program. He was a good marketer for the program. But it's time. If he's back...things will get real ugly.

Disappointed. Not surprised in the least that we are falling short of expectations. A bit surprised that we are this bad though

Great play by Harris

Put Harris in for Palmer

And a bad shot by Palmer

That in bound play will haunt us

Harris putting together a few good games in a row

Or his shot selection

Bingo. Passing on the guys in this state is one thing. Who we ended up with at times in lieu of them is what's frustrating

Well...if next year spells doom regardless...we can use it as part of a rebuild or let it drag us down further

Is this a good thing or bad thing for us?

Forbes is one of the very few midmajors Im intrigued by. I think we need to stay away from that route, but if thats the way we go, he's the guy