Norm Peterson

Bottom line: drafted or not, he still didn't make a roster. Does anyone think one more year in college would have changed that?

The problem for guys like us reading articles like this is that none of these national writers know our team nearly as well as we do. Any perspective they take, any issue they try to address, has already been hashed and rehashed on this board a thousand times. We know better than they do. They do have better graphics, however.

All I have to say is... This team has two players 7'0+ and Ed Morrow worked them... Not only do they have two 7'0+ guys... They were both ranked in the top 10 by ESPN We will be fine!!! http://www.maxpreps.com/games/basketball-winter-14-15/bishop-gorman-vs-simeon/1-3-2015-Gi2X82SaQ0euwiyS8PyctQ.htm Edit they were 6'10 and 7'0 and only rated 11 and 12 http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/view/espnu100/sort/rank/class/2015 C'mon, get it right. Changes the whole point. (I keed, I keed. I hope you're not one of the thin-skinned peeps who don't get sarcasm.)

I'm sorry, but I found that very sad.

The biblical Noah or the Noah of HHC? Must mean Noah of HHC - just saying https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YX-gqRdK_8 You mean parting the Red Sea isn't a great dance move?! Noah built an ark. Moses was the one who parted the Red Sea. The HHC Noah just partied with a sea of red.

He meant to do that. I'm pretty sure.

Totally agree. The writer completely loses credibility for anything he says thereafter if he can't do the basics of at least looking to see how long the coach has been employed with that school. It is almost universally agreed that one means one. A single one of something. A pair is two. So is a couple. Most people would agree that a few is more than a couple but less than several. Generally three, maybe four or five. Several means more than a few. Certainly more than three. Several underwhelming years means at least 4 of them. IMO, there's only been one underwhelming year in the Miles tenure and that was last year. '13-'14 was amazing making the tourney when we were basically picked last in conference. As Donkey said, '12-'13 might have been an even better job of coaching and certainly wasn't underwhelming when compared to expectations. To say Miles has had several underwhelming years since he's been at Nebraska is so obviously wrong that it reflects a total lack of fact-checking and diligence on the part of the writer. Can't even bring myself to read what came after that part. You're so wrong on that, the rest of it doesn't even matter.

Absolutely! And, while we're at it ... Fixed that for ya, Silver. Fixed it for ya, Auroran. No, the wiener is for Anthony Weiner, the Dick-sexter. Remember that guy, he was a politician. Oh, nevermind... Okay, let's get this straight, so we can move on... Whiner, weiner. Wiener, Dick Pitino. Got it.Now, does that make him a pedantophile? Or does he just like Gabe Zwiener?

How many weeks before we play them? Is it on or before December 15?

I think it had more to do with Pepsi pretty much giving their products to the University for nothing, while Warren Buffett owned Coca Cola couldn't afford to beat that price. I love Coca Cola, but their marketing pretty much sucks. More places are switching/ have switched to Pepsi. Most bars I go to you can order a pepsi and jack (which is as awful as it sounds) but you can't order a jack and Coke....and if you do...you'll still get pepsi. However you are corrected on the Gatorade stuff. I don't think that Powerade (Cokes answer to Gatorade) had even come close in sales. Can you order a Royal Crown Royal at the bars you go to? (Crown Royal with Royal Crown cola -- not endorsing it.)

Absolutely! And, while we're at it ... Fixed that for ya, Silver. Fixed it for ya, Auroran.

Let me answer that question after she tackles me in an airport while I'm wearing a Husker Basketball shirt. Gabrielle Union or the escort? Um ...

Not listed: Benny Parker Nick Fuller Jake Hammond Bakari Evelyn Anton Gill (transfer) M.T. Sklarship (unused)

I thought I made a joke about her being recruited hard by Illinois. Can't find it.

Let me answer that question after she tackles me in an airport while I'm wearing a Husker Basketball shirt.

Oh, c'mon, jones. Don't be ridiculous. You have to admit they came down pretty hard on USC in the wake of the Reggie Bush scan ... Um, nevermind.

Just to further my point about it not being about just one class, I took a look at PSU. They lost 4 of their top 6 minutes guys from a year ago (including their 20 ppg scorer in Newbill) and have a couple of decent returning players. They have Shep Garner who averaged 29 minutes and just over 9 points as a freshman last year. They have a 6'6" senior power forward in Brandon Taylor who kicked in 9 and 5 per game last year. Outside of those two, though, they ain't got much in the way of returning umph. The three other seniors on their roster (outside of Taylor) COMBINED to contribute 8.8 and 8 per game last year. They have one junior sitting out as a transfer from UConn this year. They have the one sophomore who was really pretty good. And they have 4 unheralded freshmen recruits. By the time this super class of freshmen hits campus next year for them, they'll have one other guy on their entire team who, to this point, has really shown anything. Two super freshmen aren't going to be able to carry a team, I don't care who they are. Unless they're the kind of super freshmen who go to Duke and Kentucky, which these aren't. Compare that to our situation. We have two very solid seniors this year, including a guy who should have been pre-season all-conference. We have an eligible junior transfer who was a Rivals top 100 kid out of high school. And we have another junior guard who started for us as a true freshman and has been a big minutes contributor (read: experienced player.) And we've brought in a recruiting class this year that is comparable to what Penn State has committed for next year. When their really good class arrives next year, the cupboard, for them, will be close to bare and they're going to have to rely on those newcomers for significant contributions right out of the gate. Our really good class arrives this year and combines with a decent returning cast. Plus we have some Rivals 150 kids committed for the year AFTER our really good class. So, it'll be a second really good class in a row. Stockpiling some talent for the first time in a couple of decades of Nebrasketball. So, it's interesting that PSU has this good class coming in. But it's an anomaly for them. Miles at least bootstrapped another good class on the tails of one that is special.

It's fairly subjective, these type of rankings. And it's also rarely about just 1 recruiting class. It's about an accumulation of talent. As things stand, we'll have 6 players on the roster next year who were Rivals 150 players, 5 of whom were 4-stars in roughly the top 100. That includes: 1 PG (Watson) 1 SG (Gill) 2 SF (White and Roby) 2 PF (Morrow and Horne) We don't have to add a lot of pieces to that particular puzzle to field a quality playing rotation. Very high quality rotation by Nebraska standards. And I expect that, by next season, we'll have a very good idea who those other pieces would be. Jack McVeigh looked like a pretty solid weapon in Spain. Hammond, Jacobson or a player to be named later to lock down the post? Be nice to have one more combo guard. Tai Webster, perhaps? He started as a true freshman on an NCAA tourney team. Just sumthin to think about.

FYI: As of right now in the Hammond thread, it's running 28-18 that he doesn't start. Above, it's running 13-12 that the vets would beat the eligible newcomers.

Every year, our fans have recruits more ready to play than the recruits are ready to play. Hell, the only question now is whether Patrick O'Brien starts immediately or shortly after arrival, not whether he ends up like Harrison Beck or Peyton Manning. Understood. I just think there's a disconnect between the results of the earlier thread about Hammond starting (most thought he wouldn't) and then picking the vets to win. If Jacobson beats out Hammond, then the newcomers would have an edge in at least three positions. Is the experience factor for Parker and Shields that significant?

He can join the newcomers and the vets can bring Trevor Menke out of retirement, which might make atskooc change his vote to the Reds if he hadn't picked them already.

Well, experience counts to be sure, but more people were picking Jacobson to start over Hammond than vice versa. Between Fuller and McVeigh, who ya got? Between Webster and White, who ya got? Certainly, you take Shields over a 4-star recruit like Ed Morrow, but do you give a significant edge to Parker over a 4-star recruit like Glynn Watson? It would be interesting to see.

For the sake of this question, assume Jacobson is healthy and can play. First team to 15 wins; play 10 games. Which side would win the most? Reds or Whites?

I don't have higher expectations now than I had a year ago at this time. But I do expect this team will end up with a better record and be a better team than how last year's team wound up. (Last year at this time, visions of Sweet 16s danced in my head. Six months later, the visions dancing in my head looked more like the Shim-Shams than Sweet 16s.)

My categories only relate to people who present "insider information." The only poster (I started to type poser) that I can think of right now who falls into that bottom category once claimed that Mike Gesell's basement was "all decked out" in Notre Dame gear. I personally know someone who's been in the Gesells' basement. She went to school with Gesell at South Sioux. Graduated with him. Has known him for years. When I told her that someone claimed his basement was "all decked out" with Notre Dame stuff, she laughed. There's maybe a poster down there with Notre Dame on it, but it's not even prominently displayed. I was going to rub said poster's nose in it and challenged him to repeat the claim and he wouldn't do it. Anyway, sorry to sidetrack the discussion. I'm with Red Rum: No matter what brand they choose, "I'll pony up for the crap all the same." Well said, Red Rum.