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[atskooc]

BCS teams who have not lost fewer than four games per season since 2008.  A list of middling and terrible teams...and there we are.

 

Boston College
North Carolina State
Wake Forest
Syracuse
Duke
North Carolina
Virginia
Miami (FL)

Iowa State
Kansas

Indiana
Maryland
Rutgers
Minnesota
Nebraska
Illinois
Purdue

California
Oregon State
Washington
Washington State
Arizona State
Arizona
Colorado

Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Tennessee
Ole Miss
Mississippi State

[hhcmatt]

BCS teams who have not lost fewer than four games per season since 2008.  A list of middling and terrible teams...and there we are.

 

You could have also posted a list of teams that also haven't lost more than 4 games per season since 2008.

Our inclusion on both lists indicate we're not that bad but not that great.

Just because I'm not railing against Pelini doesn't mean I'm advocating for him.

[atskooc]

 

BCS teams who have not lost fewer than four games per season since 2008.  A list of middling and terrible teams...and there we are.

 

You could have also posted a list of teams that also haven't lost more than 4 games per season since 2008.

Our inclusion on both lists indicate we're not that bad but not that great.

Just because I'm not railing against Pelini doesn't mean I'm advocating for him.

 

I could have posted that, yes.  But the previous tweet could have just listed the teams who haven't won more than 10 games per season in the given time frame.  I was just sticking with the parameters set earlier.  Nine or more puts us with three teams.  Four or more gives us the list I provided (and that didn't include non Big-Five conference teams, which would have increased the list considerably).

 

And I agree, we've been not that bad but not that great.  That sounds like mediocre.  I don't want this program to be mediocre.

[hhcmatt]

I could have posted that, yes.  But the previous tweet could have just listed the teams who haven't won more than 10 games per season in the given time frame. 

 

That's Oregon and Alabama, BTW

[hhcmatt]

[atskooc]

That's higher than I expected him to be.

 

Honestly, I don't think he'll get fired this year (or next, for that matter), barring any unforeseen debacles (losing six or seven games in a season, worse sideline behavior, another audiotape-type scandal, etc.).  Eichorst isn't going to fire Pelini if he repeats his previous performance (record-wise). 

 

Pelini will probably get his nine wins and four losses, and that will be enough for him to stick around.

 

He probably won't get blown out at home again this year (the home sched is terrible), which should also help his chances of staying put.

[HB]

BCS teams who have not lost fewer than four games per season since 2008.  A list of middling and terrible teams...and there we are.

 

You could have also posted a list of teams that also haven't lost more than 4 games per season since 2008.

Our inclusion on both lists indicate we're not that bad but not that great.

Just because I'm not railing against Pelini doesn't mean I'm advocating for him.

I could have posted that, yes.  But the previous tweet could have just listed the teams who haven't won more than 10 games per season in the given time frame.  I was just sticking with the parameters set earlier.  Nine or more puts us with three teams.  Four or more gives us the list I provided (and that didn't include non Big-Five conference teams, which would have increased the list considerably).

 

And I agree, we've been not that bad but not that great.  That sounds like mediocre.  I don't want this program to be mediocre.

Personally I would call the 6 years "good, not great" vs. "mediocre". 3 division titles and 3 good bowl wins puts it above mediocre in my eyes. What to call what we did in the 6 years after having 2 losing seasons in 4 years (losing 5, 6 and 7 games in 3 of them) is in the eye of the beholder, of course, and I'll probably get ripped for having low standards. In any event, hopefully we will do better often going forward.

[JoeMccrayAllDay]

 

 

We should have been doing it from the get-go.

 

And we shouldn't have had our quarterbacks going live in today's scrimmage.  Armstrong got knocked out today.  After all the injuries we've had already, we're having our QB's go live in a scrimmage?  Not smart.

So says you, a football expert.  Your Bo hatred is over the top.  Has been on here for years.  Broken record at this point.

I don't hate Coach Pelini, I just don't think he's good enough at his job.

 

 

My thoughts exactly. 

[atskooc]

Kevin Williams was carried off on a stretcher today, the same day one of our DT starters decided to transfer.

 

Ouch.

[huskerbaseball13]

Kevin Williams was carried off on a stretcher today, the same day one of our DT starters decided to transfer.

Ouch.

Curry wasn't going to start but still a big loss. It's too bad we failed to recruit depth at the dline all these years. Bo will pay for it now.

[atskooc]

 

Kevin Williams was carried off on a stretcher today, the same day one of our DT starters decided to transfer.

Ouch.

Curry wasn't going to start but still a big loss. It's too bad we failed to recruit depth at the dline all these years. Bo will pay for it now.

 

Yes, I should have said a DT who started more than a handful of games last year.

[hhcmatt]

On one hand, Pelini is one of eight major-conference coaches in college football history to win at least nine games in each of his first six years. Of those eight coaches, only one, Pelini, took over a program coming off a losing season. Three first-time coaches have opened with six consecutive nine-win seasons: Pelini, Osborne, Switzer.

Yet he is 8-14 against ranked teams, 2-8 against top-10 teams and 0-3 in conference championship games, the last in humbling, humiliating fashion. Only one Pelini-coached team, in 2009, finished inside the top 19 of the final Amway Coaches Poll.

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2014/08/18/nebraska-cornhuskers-2014-countdown-preview-roster-depth-chart-schedule-football-four/14212855/

[HB]

 

Kevin Williams was carried off on a stretcher today, the same day one of our DT starters decided to transfer.

Ouch.

Curry wasn't going to start but still a big loss. It's too bad we failed to recruit depth at the dline all these years. Bo will pay for it now.

 

Actually we recruited way more depth in the Dline starting 3 years ago, so I don't what "all those years" has to do with it. We are better prepared to deal with transfers/injuries than now than in previous years, precisely due to improved recruiting.

[huskerbaseball13]

 

 

Kevin Williams was carried off on a stretcher today, the same day one of our DT starters decided to transfer.

Ouch.

Curry wasn't going to start but still a big loss. It's too bad we failed to recruit depth at the dline all these years. Bo will pay for it now.

 

Actually we recruited way more depth in the Dline starting 3 years ago, so I don't what "all those years" has to do with it. We are better prepared to deal with transfers/injuries than now than in previous years, precisely due to improved recruiting.

 

 

As it stands...we have very little depth at the D Tackle position. We currently have 5 scholorship players at that position IF you count Newell as a DT which he may have to be now.  And one of those scholorship players has had chronic knee problems during his career and just re-injured a knee.  So that leaves us with 4 healthy tackles with one being a true freshman who right now is very undersized for the position at 270 pounds.  Needless to say...if Collins or Valentine go down we are in deep chit. 

[Norm Peterson]

How is 270# "very undersized" for a DT?

[huskerbaseball13]

How is 270# "very undersized" for a DT?

 

Below is the weights for the starting Centers in the Big 10 that Nebraska will be facing...

 

#315

#292

#300

#295

#298

#311

#306

#300

 

He will be giving up 30 pounds or more to most of the opposing players he will line up against...even worse, those players have had years in their programs strength and conditioning program.  I think Newell will be a player for us...but DT is one of the hardest positions as a true freshman to make an impact in.  As I said...we better hope Valentine and Collins stay healthy. 

[Norm Peterson]

Yeah, offensive linemen tend to be a lot heavier than defensive linemen.  So?

 

Why don't you compare him with defensive linemen?

 

The guy who is transferring away is about the same size as the kid who you described as "very undersized."

[Norm Peterson]

Phil Steele has 3 Ohio State DLs in his top 2 Pre-season All-conference teams.  They weigh ... 288, 278, and 252 pounds.

[huskerbaseball13]

Phil Steele has 3 Ohio State DLs in his top 2 Pre-season All-conference teams.  They weigh ... 288, 278, and 252 pounds.

 

Ohio States projected starting D Tackles are listed at 295 and 288.  20-25 pounds is quite a big difference.  If you want to talk about Defensive Ends...sure, 270 is a great weight for that position.  270 for D Tackle in a scheme that requires the D Tackle to eat up blockers? Not so much.   And that's nothing against Newell, he will eventually bulk up and get stronger....but I'm not buying we have good d-line depth.   

[huskerbaseball13]

Yeah, offensive linemen tend to be a lot heavier than defensive linemen.  So?

 

Why don't you compare him with defensive linemen?

 

The guy who is transferring away is about the same size as the kid who you described as "very undersized."

 

Average weight for a Big 10 Starting DT is #293.  This is going off of Rivals Depth Charts which may not be 100 percent correct on projecting the starters for this year.   

[Norm Peterson]

OK, and still they're weighing in significantly lighter than the centers whose weights you listed, which proves my point.  Comparing the weight of a DL to the weight of an OL is not an apples to apples comparison.  OF COURSE DLs weight less.  But 270# doesn't make a DL "very undersized."  A little light?  Sure.  But "very undersized"?  No way.

[Norm Peterson]

 

Yeah, offensive linemen tend to be a lot heavier than defensive linemen.  So?

 

Why don't you compare him with defensive linemen?

 

The guy who is transferring away is about the same size as the kid who you described as "very undersized."

 

Average weight for a Big 10 Starting DT is #293.  This is going off of Rivals Depth Charts which may not be 100 percent correct on projecting the starters for this year.   

 

Link this for me, please.

 

Edit:  nevermind, I figured it out.

[huskerbaseball13]

OK, and still they're weighing in significantly lighter than the centers whose weights you listed, which proves my point.  Comparing the weight of a DL to the weight of an OL is not an apples to apples comparison.  OF COURSE DLs weight less.  But 270# doesn't make a DL "very undersized."  A little light?  Sure.  But "very undersized"?  No way.

 

He's over 20 pounds lighter than the average starting Big Ten D-tackle.  To me that is very undersized...especially considering the job he will be asked to do in Bo's scheme. 

[huskerbaseball13]

 

 

Yeah, offensive linemen tend to be a lot heavier than defensive linemen.  So?

 

Why don't you compare him with defensive linemen?

 

The guy who is transferring away is about the same size as the kid who you described as "very undersized."

 

Average weight for a Big 10 Starting DT is #293.  This is going off of Rivals Depth Charts which may not be 100 percent correct on projecting the starters for this year.   

 

Link this for me, please.

 

Edit:  nevermind, I figured it out.

 

 

https://indiana.rivals.com/cdepthtext.asp?Year=2013&Team=IOWA

 

Use the drop down for the different teams.  Like I said, not sure how many are 100% updated.  But I wasn't going to go to each team's actual website.

[Norm Peterson]

Wisconsin's starting 3 down linemen in their 3-4 D weigh 268, 277 and 283.

 

Michigan State's starting DTs (not DEs) weigh 280 and 277.  Those are their STARTERS.

 

Those are the teams who are odds-on favorites, at this point, to win their divisions (now that the OSU QB is out.)