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Yep. I'd like everyone save Fuller to come back, but mcveigh would be next on my list. Doesn't offer a lot of the intangibles and is way to inconsistent at his 'specialty'

He's has multiple bad stretches each year. He had a good stretch, but that hasnt been the norm. He's been bad far more then he's been good. He was 15-49 since February. It's more than just that one stretch

More than just that 9 game stretch

NCAA or bust next year

Slump as in career to date?

Find a shooter in the 5th year market somehow. Get them on the floor. Defend the perimieter. Especially now that you have the size down low

Just the rumors here about having academic issues.

Only one I'm hoping for is for Fuller to move on and for us to sign a combo guard/shooter. Horne and Palmer are my next two I can see McVeigh leaving to play professionally internationally

Yep

Excuses will be interesting at least

November to March?

I'll stick to the child molestation cover up

There was no foul there

Itll be burnt and the ashes pissed on

This game is setting basketball back 10 years

Jordy has played very well

Embarrassingly bad

How was no foul called on tai's take

Don't really think the depth is ever going to get better than the situation we are currently in without winning some games. Which is the question with Miles at the helm. Keeping Miles, recruiting isn't going to get easier. And I agree, I don't think we should be throwing spots away. But do you see those guys as throwaways? I don't. It's not like those guys don't have skills. They may not be double digit scorers in the Big 10, but they are as good/better as some of the parts we have and have had.

We've had 3 straight losing seasons where we've collapsed at the end of the regular season. I'd be curious as to your definition of a step back.

Thurman could easily play for us. Hahn could too. The fact he can shoot gives him a skill we don't have much of again in hindsight is 20/20. Don't blame Miles for not taking These guys over others that we have. That doesn't mean they aren't better though. I do think it's fair to question what if we had taken them over leaving 1-2 spots open every year though

I think Hahn is what we hoped McVeigh would be

Hindsight 20/20 of course but there are a lot of guys playing tonight that would have an impact for us

Yeah. Hed start for us.

As far as Norm's original question....I think the answer is very clearly no...it is not the same time. I think there are a number of reasons for it. IMO..... 1. Confidence. As the losses mounted, some of the care free play goes away. You second guess yourself. Clearly not playing the same. 2. Health. Not a big fan of the injury excuse. But I think even when we got Ed back, despite a few wins, we never had the same chemistry we had when he went out to begin with. 3. Roles. Think we struggled to define roles for guys. Playing time for McVeigh, Roby, Horne changed periodically. Between MJ, Jordy and Ed down the stretch, their roles changed. We struggled to push the right buttons down the stretch. I think this impacted the chemistry of the team. 4. Defensive Philosophy. Very clearly an issue here and a flawed approach to things. It hasn't just been this year, but really mounted down the stretch. 5. Added scouting. Big 10 is full of good coaches. Early on, a lot wasn't known about some of our guys and what we would do. Down the stretch it became very obvious that we aren't a good shooting team. We also aren't a great interior post team. Big 10 coaches can exploit that. Combined with the fact that we are easy to defend and aren't very good defensively....that's not a good recipe.