Huskerpapa Posted March 2, 2014 Report Posted March 2, 2014 I am going to disagree. I think Mr. Hammond will be a good contributor next year. We do not need him to be our go-to-player, we simply need him to play a role. I believe Mr. Hammond will be able to come in and contribute. Quote
GATA Posted March 2, 2014 Report Posted March 2, 2014 I am going to disagree. I think Mr. Hammond will be a good contributor next year. We do not need him to be our go-to-player, we simply need him to play a role. I believe Mr. Hammond will be able to come in and contribute. What do you mean by "contributor?" 5-10 mpg? Quote
Huskerpapa Posted March 2, 2014 Report Posted March 2, 2014 I am going to disagree. I think Mr. Hammond will be a good contributor next year. We do not need him to be our go-to-player, we simply need him to play a role. I believe Mr. Hammond will be able to come in and contribute. What do you mean by "contributor?" 5-10 mpg? con·trib·ute (kən-trĭb′yo̅o̅t) v. con·trib·ut·ed, con·trib·ut·ing, con·trib·utes v.tr. 1. To give or supply in common with others; give to a common fund or for a common purpose. 2. To submit for publication: contributed two stories to the summer issue. v.intr. 1. To make a contribution: contributes to several charities. 2. To help bring about a result; act as a factor: Exercise contributes to better health. 3. To submit material for publication. [Latin contribuere, contribūt-, to bring together : com-, com- + tribuere, to grant; see tribute.] con·trib′u·tive adj. con·trib′u·tive·ly adv. con·trib′u·tive·ness n. con·trib′u·tor n. The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2009. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. contributor (kənˈtrɪbjʊtə) n 1. (Journalism & Publishing) a person who contributes, esp one who writes for a newspaper or one who makes a donation to a cause, etc 2. something that is a factor in or is partly responsible for something: alcohol was a contributor to his death. Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003 ==================================================================================================== Sorry, just a bit of smart a** coming out. Next year we have the trio of Walter, Leslee and David back. Hammond becomes the fourth. He can come in the first year and learn the game as the season matures. He can play a lot of minutes in the pre-Big Ten games, and then contribute minutes, as needed, in the Big Ten season. He can play back to the basket, similar to Leslee, while David and Walter can play inside and out. Hammond is certainly not playing against the highest level of athletes right now, but he has played with, and against them in the past. This year he has dominated. Did Eliason play at the highest level in HS? Nope. And frankly, Hammond looks to be much more athletic than Elison, and much more dominant. One point I am trying to make is that this kid could be really good. But perhaps it will take a year to get him used to playing at this level, Either way, I believe he will be a player. trickey 1 Quote
bobcat402 Posted March 2, 2014 Report Posted March 2, 2014 I don't think we really have any idea how much he will play. He could easily beat out Leslie by conference play for major minutes. Our staff knows how to help big guys get better, the proof is in the pudding Vooch is the one big man who's been here his entire career and we can't even get him on the court to eat up fouls. vooch is an anomoly...an outlier..ill bet money that our staff can help big men out with the progress, Pitch has made in developing in the post on defensive end, and when smith is on, he is smooth...ill take my chances with them developing Sure, Pitchford has gotten better defensively in the post, but he's absolutely awful offensively in the post. The same goes for Rivers. Smith is OK. I don't want this to be a knock on Miles and his staff, I just don't believe we've proven we can develop big men just yet. If they had turned Vooch into a rotational big then I'd agree. I'm just not there yet, though. your expectations are off...Pitch will never..i repeat NEVER be a back to basket post player... Billy Donovan knew that the minute, he stepped onto Florida's campus, Miles knew this the second he was at NU, Rivers as i pretty decent midrange, game at the 4 spot, if your expectations are for them to be back to the basket frontcourt players, than of course it looks like we cant develop big men, but if you come from the aspect, that these are evolved post players, with the post is extended 15-20 out in some cases for pitch, and rivers, and on defense they are head and shoulders from what they were to begin the season, than that is the expectation we should have. Quote
Norm Peterson Posted March 2, 2014 Report Posted March 2, 2014 He tweeted he had another 40 point game tonight. 41 pts & 21 reb And, tomorrow is his 19th birthday! So he's already more than a year older than Brandon Ubel was when he started classes his freshman year. If I'm not mistaken, Brandon finally turned 18 after classes started his freshman year. So Hammond will have a year-and-a-half head start on where Ubel was when he puts on a Husker uni for the first time. That matters. That's like having a redshirt without it counting like a redshirt. hhcmatt 1 Quote
GATA Posted March 2, 2014 Report Posted March 2, 2014 I don't think we really have any idea how much he will play. He could easily beat out Leslie by conference play for major minutes. Our staff knows how to help big guys get better, the proof is in the pudding Vooch is the one big man who's been here his entire career and we can't even get him on the court to eat up fouls. vooch is an anomoly...an outlier..ill bet money that our staff can help big men out with the progress, Pitch has made in developing in the post on defensive end, and when smith is on, he is smooth...ill take my chances with them developing Sure, Pitchford has gotten better defensively in the post, but he's absolutely awful offensively in the post. The same goes for Rivers. Smith is OK. I don't want this to be a knock on Miles and his staff, I just don't believe we've proven we can develop big men just yet. If they had turned Vooch into a rotational big then I'd agree. I'm just not there yet, though. your expectations are off...Pitch will never..i repeat NEVER be a back to basket post player... Billy Donovan knew that the minute, he stepped onto Florida's campus, Miles knew this the second he was at NU, Rivers as i pretty decent midrange, game at the 4 spot, if your expectations are for them to be back to the basket frontcourt players, than of course it looks like we cant develop big men, but if you come from the aspect, that these are evolved post players, with the post is extended 15-20 out in some cases for pitch, and rivers, and on defense they are head and shoulders from what they were to begin the season, than that is the expectation we should have. Well, I'm not saying Pitch is gonna develop into a traditional big man, but I don't think it's too much to ask the guy to have the ability to post up and have actual post moves from time to time. The same can go for Rivers. But your post, I think, just underlines my point. We haven't actually developed a true big man yet, so I don't know how anyone could say the "proof is in the pudding." Pitchford is a tall small forward who I agree has become much better defensively as the year has gone by. David Rivers is basically a 4 that shoots midrange jumpers. Leslee Smith has shown some positive things, but he's certainly not someone who I believe has developed a great deal in his short amount of time here. That leaves Vooch, who we all agree hasn't developed a lick. Maybe if we go back to last year we could say that Miles and Co. helped Ubel reach the next level. I really don't want to turn this into me slamming the coaching staff because they've only been here two years and it's not easy to develop big men. My point is that it's far too early and we don't have nearly enough information to say that we are great at developing bigs. Quote
Section_316 Posted March 3, 2014 Author Report Posted March 3, 2014 I suppose his big men at CSU don't count either? Quote
GATA Posted March 3, 2014 Report Posted March 3, 2014 I suppose his big men at CSU don't count either? I know nothing about his big men at CSU. Do you have examples? Quote
husker11 Posted March 3, 2014 Report Posted March 3, 2014 If he can come in and give us the about the same amount of minutes as Hawkins has that will be a good year for him Quote
GATA Posted March 3, 2014 Report Posted March 3, 2014 I looked into a little bit of his time at it appears Miles and Co. had some success with the big men at Colorado State. Hopefully he can develop bigs in the Big Ten, too. Quote
Section_316 Posted March 3, 2014 Author Report Posted March 3, 2014 That Colton Iverson kid seemed to turn out ok... Quote
nebrasketball10 Posted March 3, 2014 Report Posted March 3, 2014 FWIW... in a recent speaking engagement, Miles said that he expects Hammond to develop into a player, noting that he was not sure when that would be. To me, it came off as "do not expect too much right away." He also said Fuller (and Hawkins) have a long way to go on defense before they will be able to consistently contribute. hhcmatt 1 Quote
lanigan123 Posted March 4, 2014 Report Posted March 4, 2014 I would agree w most of that. Neither need to be Terran or Walt right away but some can get good minutes. Quote
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