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I think it will be better and deeper. That's not really the question though. The question is....do we improve more than the other teams and where does that leave us in the mix. If everyone is healthy and plays to potential...you have to like us. But considering the last 20 years.....not an easy thing to hold our breath on

Um...where did you get those numbers? We lost basically 50% of our points.

Robin clarified later in the thread

Some clarification on this...the game still counts record wise. Its just an exempt game from scheduling.

Knowing our luck, we'll lose in Gavitt and then beat them in the tourney making our win exempt.

Yeah. I hate that. Frustrating though that the people scheduling the Gavitt games couldn't work around this

Didn't realize that the conference tourney got bumped up a week. Either way....I don't like it. Schedule it early. More returns, less risk. Less unknown

IMO....with Copeland there is a ton of upside and ceiling to the team. Losing him, even for just the non-con kills that. Especially considering the lack of depth in the front court without him. We'd be pulling guys from the wing to try to play the stretch 4 full time. It'd require more from a guy like Taylor, who we really should be seeing less of if we are really improving. Taking Copeland out of the equation would require a pretty remarkable development from someone to compensate, one, that I'm not sure is very realistic to expect. We can't keep losing contributors and just shrug it off. I agree that Jacobson probably lost his starting spot. That doesn't mean there still wasn't 18-24 mpg for him

Thinking in terms of upside though...you want Roby and Copeland on the floor...meaning one of them is playing the 3. Regardless...subbing Copeland out of the mix, assuming he doesn't get the waiver...Roby alone at the 4 is not a better situation. Roby and Jacobson would each bring different assets to the table. Regardless whether Roby would be better at the 4 than Jacobson...you need depth.

Duby is a big step down Roby and mcveigh aren't full time stretch 4s. We're not better off. He would've played....a lot and that's with Copeland. God forbid we don't get him full time.

I dont like the Big 10 tourney being sped up...but I can live with that and Delaney has earned that right. I dont like the idea of trying to fit an extra game in at the last minute

Losing one hurt. Losing both...really hurts....and at a devastating level until Copeland gets his waiver.

That makes it a bit more doable then. Dont like it. But makes the logistics a lot better

Jacobson is better than people give him credit for and we'll miss him more than people lead on right now. We have little PF depth right now and that's with a healthy eligible Copeland. And that's not a given. Jacobson would've still played 20+ mpg this year

Not sure how this works unless the big ten tourney is moved up as well. It ends on selection Sunday.

Some speculation on Twitter that the Gavitt Game will be us at St Johns

I guess I don't view recruiting outcomes (ours, or other teams) as breaks...for better or for worse. You can't control the decision, but you can control the effort, actions and approach leading to the decision.

I guess I don't view that as much of a break. We did a great job recruiting him over a long period of time and built the relationship with him. By break, I mean relying on something we can't really control....we controlled how we recruited him.

I think we'll have more than 5 more....especially using the +3 rule. But right now, we can use it to our advantage like you mentioned. Also think getting out in front, having a plan, being organized, showing consistent effort and selling Nebraska's benefits help too.

Which is why I can't buy into the hype train and the poo poo-ing of Ed and Jacobson's departure. Copeland is an NBA level talent...but we are depending on his health and the NCAA to grant the exception otherwise we are in a lot of trouble in the non-con. And when was the last time Husker hoops caught a break.

I don't buy that we have bigger needs either. We need talent period. We got our back up center in Duby. We've addressed outside shooting with Nana and Allen and Allen can probably play backup point as well. At this point...you find the best you can get. And this guy is pretty darned good. It'd be a hell of a catch if Miles can land him

They can both play the 2 or 3. Not to mention the only guys at the wing are now upper classmen besides Nana. You don't turn down Top 60 players with the offer sheet he has when you win 12-13 games a year

If he wants to come...take him. Brings some good will off the floor, adds another big for depth. If his attitude isnt where it should be...bench him...he's a reserve anyways

Yep Plus the off the floor goodwill it could help create

I'm still leary of the pro-style offense working in Lincoln, but I put little stock in the Riley's worst record than Bo argument at this point. Outside of a couple fluke plays that didn't go our way...Riley's 6-7 team was pretty much the same teams Pelini had his last couple years. A hail mary here and a field goal there and the records were the same. Not to mention the culture shift and the lack of talent and depth at the most important positions on the field. I think Riley has done everything right off the field and I think that warrants seeing what his culture and talent and can do on the field. As far as the basketball/football comparison. Obviously, expectations need to be lower for basketball with history. But it's also fair to note that football is not as able to hit the reset button and start over quickly like basketball can. Player development is more important and takes longer. As well as the fact, one guy is headed into year 3 on an upward trend whereas the other is headed into year 6 on a downward trend. In each case, I think both programs are experiencing talent increases. Whether the coaching is there remains to be seen.