Norm Peterson

Please don't say that our schedule needs frosting. Please don't say that. Find a different word for my sake. Thanks

Oh well. Give other kids a chance who want to be here. Time to move on. No longer have to worry about what's going to happen to Mo with that whole felony thing.

Well, #1, we're probably going to struggle, but not for reasons related to how well Jervay Green adjusts to the D1 game. I'll just go back to my point that if Jervay is not the star player we're hoping for, it'll become someone else's role. It's not like we have so few options at guard that we have to play him no matter how good or bad he happens to be. It's not like playing David Rivers at the 4 because we literally had no one else to slot there.

Maybe we should have applied for waivers for Banton and Walker also.

Thorir showing off his impressive vertical leaping ability.

I don't think there's any question that Jervay will have a lot higher percentage of his overall attempts coming from beyond the arc. I hope and expect he'll be more efficient as a scorer than Steve Harley was. But if we get 10+ points, 3 boards, 2 assists, and 1 1/2 steals out of him per game, I'll be pretty satisfied.

Or we could just use your username and password, amiright?

I'm guessing it's kinda odd for a 5'11 guy to have Steve's shooting volume (250-300 attempts/year) with only about 20% of those attempts from beyond the arc. Not unprecedented, but not typical either.

1. We have a lot of other options such that we're not dead if Jervay Green struggles to adjust to the D1 game; and 2. Steve Harley was a double-figure scorer who averaged 3 rebounds, 2 assists, and 1.5 steals per game as a senior. If you offered me the option of Jervay taking Steve Harley's stat line as his own or putting up whatever's behind door #3, I'd have him take Steve Harley's stat line.

Excellent chart, @Dead Dog Alley Obviously, Doc would be in a great position to tell us who's better, but my thoughts are indicated above. Looking at that comparison makes me feel better about this year. This year's bench is way better than the 2009 team. The starters could be better as well. And that was Doc's best team as a head coach and nearly made the NCAA tourney. I'd give Ade the probable nod over Haanif, but I have to think Haanif is no slouch and can hold his own. I'd give Ryan A the nod over Shamiel, but Shamiel could surprise us. Cookie was solid, but Cam Mack is 7 inches taller and I'm just going to guess he's a better player and maybe even a lot better. Steve Harley was a pretty good baller, but it's plausible that Jervay could be a lot better than Steve. And Sek was decent, but what I've seen of Dachon, he's better overall because Sek wasn't that good from the outside. This is going to be an interesting team. Very interesting comparison looking at both rosters like that.

We were a gnat's eyelash away from making the NCAA tourney with a team that featured 6'6 Ade Dagunduro and 6'5 Ryan Anderson as our front court starters. The starting guards on that team -- Sek Henry, Steve Harley and Cookie Miller -- were good but not great. We brought a walk-on guard off the bench as our 6th man in Paul Velander. I feel like there's every reason to believe this set of guards is better than that group. And we can certainly hope that we can find front court players from among everyone else on the roster that would come close to matching what we got out of Ryan and Ade. Ade was just a stud and played hard and left it all on the floor. He's a big reason that team was actually fairly successful. I think we can score. I think the big question is whether we'll be able to defend and rebound well enough to slow down the other team's offense enough to outscore them. It's not our size that worries me so much as our inexperience in the front court. The good news is that the last 7 years of making the other team's big man look like an all-American should help the fans not feel so demoralized this year when some other team's big man goes off on us.

I've heard those same comments about Jervay being good on the defensive end. That could be coach-speak or it could be an honest assessment. I know that playing defense is not the priority in the juco ranks as it is in the D1 game and that's certainly the case as far as what I saw of WNCC games. Jervay might be a very good defender. But that's one that, until we see him on the floor, we don't really know.

There's so, so much we don't know about this team. We think we know Hoiberg's style of play that he wants to implement but have to imagine he's modified a thing or two as a result of his stint with the Bulls. He's recruited a roster that he wanted. There might be a player or two he hoped for and didn't get, but by and large, this is the group he went after and the group he got. So … what the hell is this team really going to look like? I have this sense that our back court is going to be really, really solid. It's yet to be seen how good Cam Mack really is. Let's assume there's a lot of excess hype at this point and that he's maybe not quite the best player Hoiberg has ever coached. I wonder how good of a shooter he'll be. I think he has an unconventional shooting stroke that might be hit or miss depending on the night. I'm guessing he'll be a good distributor but until things go live and the action is real, we won't really know. But what I think I do know and isn't hyperbole is how fast he is. I think he and Dachon Burke could be the fastest pair of guards in the Big Ten. I don't think that's crazy talk, either. And I think they'll both be capable scorers who have a take-it-to-the-rack-and-score mentality. So, you have Mack who's fast as hell, Burke who's also very fast, and then you have another cast of characters in the backcourt who also have potential to be pretty solid weapons. Jervay Green is *potentially* an excellent outside shooter who's big and strong and can finish through contact. Can he defend well enough to see the floor? Does his juco shooting translate? Italy gave him a jump start on that typical juco transition time. That gives you some reason to hope it won't take half a season for him to figure things out the way sometimes happens with juco transfers. Haanif Cheatham was a double-figure scorer as a true freshman at Marquette. Career mid- to upper-30s 3-point shooter. He's pretty mature. He's really long. He's a good defender. If he can stay healthy, he gives us another offensive weapon that defenses will have to account for. Matej Kavas can shoot from the outside, but I don't think he's a one-trick pony. I also saw him do some things in the scrimmage that make me think he's pretty versatile. But his ability to spread the floor with his outside shooting will probably be his most important contribution. Given the roster we have (you go to war with the army you have, not the army you wish you had) he's probably going to have to guard the opposing 4, which I suppose makes him kind of a stretch 4 for us rather than the guard position they have him listed at on the roster. I'm going to go out on a limb and say 4 of the above 5 players will average 25 minutes or more per game. I don't know which 4. Maybe all 5. I'm not worried about the backcourt. At least 3 spots on the floor, we'll be credible. The question to me is whether we have guys at the other 2 spots who can defend and rebound well enough, and not be exposed as so big of a weakness, that our guards can win games for us on the offensive end of the floor.

@hhcmatt Do you know of any similar list of guys who were denied waivers? I figure we only hear about the guys who got them, but maybe there's a list of guys who didn't.

I'm hearing Washington left the team on Saturday and is planning on entering his name in the transfer portal.

From this angle, looks like Yvan's feet are flat on the floor and he's still the tallest player on the team. So that must mean everyone else is 6'6 or shorter, right?

We need his big body, for sure. Didn't see much of it in the open scrimmage, but he has the physique to hold his own on the glass.

It's going to take me awhile to get used to his new haircut. I was like "wait a sec, that's not Isaiah Roby; that's some dude with short hair."

Thor makes things happen in a good way. He's a very heads-up kind of player. Always have thought that about him. His lack of a jumper was what made me think he would a) not be suited to the Hoiberg system and, therefore, b) probably figure into the "roster attrition" thread. But if he's made strides with his jumper, he's a pretty decent player otherwise, and can obviously do some things we'd want and need. Happy for Thor if this pans out. By all indications, he's a great kid and a great teammate.

Let the discussion of camera angles and standing on tip-toes commence:

I agree with the lack of fretting. And agree that we were full up on guards and had other areas of greater need. Still, I wonder if someone got in his ear. That's a pretty quick turnaround from decommit to recommit, and there's a big part of me that doubts it would have happened had he not had such an impressive summer.

Given how quickly he recommitted, it makes me wonder if someone was in his ear. He turned heads this summer. Someone made it known that he could do better than Nebraska. I have a feeling it wasn't simply how well he fit into our system. I have a feeling he was poached.

Would your answer have been different two months ago?

At this point, I think only @hhcmatt could move this thread to the recruiting board. It's outta our hands. Having said that, I would absolutely wet myself if Jonathan Kuminga ends up playing for the Huskers in 2021. But the chances are probably only slightly better than a million to one. (Cue Dumb and Dumber gif.)

Interesting. We go watch a 2020 kid at a position of need whom we have no room for and, a week later, a current 2020 kid at a position where we're somewhat deep decommits. Opening up a spot. And now we've offered the other guy. Coincidence?