Interesting stats! Thanks for looking this up. I think that it does show that it might be the horses and not the jockey/trainers. If we're criticizing Doc for bad D, then according to these stats, we should also criticize Fred for a bad O. Much like the win/loss totals, I will reserve judgement for a few years. Obviously, if you are looking at a 20+ loss season, you won't be ranked very high stats wise in most everything.