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Interesting, I had a chipped kneecap right before senior year of high school. They said it wouldn’t get worse if you can handle pain but surgery you are looking at 7 weeks or so. Didn’t want to miss football so grinders through two a days limping badly it hurt so bad. Decided to have it done so I could be back for basketball at least. Turns out I was back playing linebacker in three weeks but couldn’t cut well enough to play qb. If I just did it immediately I may have been back for opener. Point is if break is similar to chip I would try to play through it if I were him as surgeory takes him out for year anyway. Probably all depends on if he can make it worse or not.

I have to think Watkins makes about a five point difference due to the matchups. No team in the league besides us would i consider him to be so important

Purdue 9/Illinois 176- 6pm FS1 Purdue - 8 1/2 Need Illinois played them twiceFlorida Gulf Coast 159/Stetson 325 - 6pm ESPN3 No line Need StetsonNorth Texas 203/Florida International 297 - 6pm http://conferenceusa.com/watch/default.aspx?Live=3711&path=utsa may be premium only FIU -2 Need N. TexasSouth Dakota 91/South Dakota State 66 - 7pm ESPN Full Court/ESPN3 S. Dak St -2 1/2 Need South DakotaSouthern Miss 218/UT San Antonio 188 - 7pm http://conferenceusa.com/watch/default.aspx?Live=3630&path=utsa may be premium UTSA - 4 1/2 Need UTSACharlotte 324/Western Kentucky 56 - 7pm BeIN for those with that W. Kentucky - 17 1/2 Need CharlotteMurray State 69/Eastern Illinois 272 -7:30 http://ovcdigitalnetwork.com/watch/?Live=6317&type=Live Murray St. -9 Need E. IllinoisHouston 19 /Memphis 116- 8-pm CBS Sports Network Houston -6 Need MemphisWashington 48/Stanford 94- 8 pm Pac 12 Network Stanford -5 Need StanfordUCLA 47/Utah 49 - 8pm ESPN Utah - 2 1/2 I cannot tell what is best so lean with Fever since he sounds confident we need UtahChicago State 337/New Mexico State 47 - 8pm http://nmstatesports.com/watch/?Live=517&type=Live no line Need Chicago StArizona State 28/Oregon 90 -10:30 FS1 Oregon - 3 1/2 Need Az. StLong Beach State 201/Hawai'i 224- 11pm http://bigwest.sidearmstreaming.com/watch/?Live=493 Hawaii - 4 1/2 Need Long Beach ST. others Wisconsin 128 at Northwestern 127 6pm BTN Northwestern - 3 1/2 Need Wisconsin as we played them twice Louisiana 41at Troy 221 7:15 ESPN3 Louisiana -7 Need Troy Pepperdone 326 at St. Mary's 29 9pm http://www.wccsports.com/ot/upcoming-events.html St. Mary's - 17 1/2 Need Pepperdine

Hell of a league, that big east. Soooooo deep!

I think it is rather obvious this is only at the very end, if at all.

I think what it is that he doesn’t know shit from apple butter the entire time and then is good at getting intel before releasing the final bracket which is what he bases his accuracy on.

At least a couple other teams of concern are getting boatraced themselves.

actually i should have added it as it does since played minny twice

Carolina wins!!!

duquesne down 4 with 337 left https://www.facebook.com/live/

What a meltdown by North Carolina. Carolina up 2 late.

Duquesne not getting a fair shake on the officiating at all over on Facebook live. Need to overcome it.

finishing it at noon eastern tomorrow at an on campus arena

Watkins doesn't appear to be coming back tonight.

quite a coaching mismatch unfolding here.

He is back in now.

Huge loss is right. He will force us to play Jordy more than we would otherwise like to. Also, if not playing, it allows Jordy to have more chance of success in his backup minutes when Roby is out.

my 2 cents from the games of interest thread Michigan 29/Penn State 76 - 6pm BTN Penn St. -4 I am going back and forth but currently lean Michigan. One part of me doesn't want to play Michigan in the 4-5 game as they are so well coached. Michigan would be favored similarly to Penn St over us in that game. Within a point for sure. I think the tie breaker here is the ludicrous Q1 perception. If going to be playing equal type of team in 4-5 game it may as well be the one we are going to me more rewarded for beating in the metrics. And the fact we would be playing them both twice, that part is a wash. One possible underrated aspect of a Michigan win, is that Penn St. at large hopes would be really crushed. It might make the game Sunday just a bit easier. If we go 13-5 in the league and get a double bye, I don't see how they can leave us out. That would be absurd. So a potentially easier game to get that 13-5 is best. Not saying it will necessarily be easier, but there is absolutely no way it would be harder, and could be MUCH easier if Penn St comes in knowing a tourney run is only realistic chance. Add in the fact Penn St. is one of the teams we are competing with for a bid, and I think it is go Michigan!! After typing this out, I am more confident that is the correct answer.

You might be correct. Don't think it is known yet.

One good thing is that Maryland is locked on the 8 line. That is as tough as that first round game could possibly be for Michigan St. playing a well coached desperate team and Northwestern is a veteran desperate team if they were to beat Maryland. I would like to see Iowa or Minny end up playing the 5 seed if we get 4. That sets up better chance of upset IMO.

Edited for RPI, time, how to watch, line, and who I feel we need Georgia 66/South Carolina 78- 5:30 SEC Network S. Carolina -3 Need S. Carolina Seton Hall 24/Providence 35 - 5:30 Not sure how to watch. Providence - 1 1/2 I think we want seton Hall Texas Tech 14/Oklahoma State 109 - 6pm ESPNU TT -4 Need TT North Carolina 5/Syracuse 39- 6pm ESPN N. Carolina -4 Need North Carolina Clemson 9/Virginia Tech 54- 6pm ESPN Full Court/ESPN3 Va Tech -4 Need Clemson Michigan 29/Penn State 76 - 6pm BTN Penn St. -4 I am going back and forth but currently lean Michigan. One part of me doesn't want to play Michigan in the 4-5 game as they are so well coached. Michigan would be favored similarly to Penn St over us in that game. Within a point for sure. I think the tie breaker here is the ludicrous Q1 perception. If going to be playing equal type of team in 4-5 game it may as well be the one we are going to me more rewarded for beating in the metrics. And the fact we would be playing them both twice, that part is a wash. One possible underrated aspect of a Michigan win, is that Penn St. at large hopes would be really crushed. It might make the game Sunday just a bit easier. If we go 13-5 in the league and get a double bye, I don't see how they can leave us out. That would be absurd. So a potentially easier game to get that 13-5 is best. Not saying it will necessarily be easier, but there is absolutely no way it would be harder, and could be MUCH easier if Penn St comes in knowing a tourney run is only realistic chance. Add in the fact Penn St. is one of the teams we are competing with for a bid, and I think it is go Michigan!! After typing this out, I am more confident that is the correct answer. SMU 95/East Carolina 274 - 6pm ESPN News SMU -8 Pry don't matter but East Carolina best obviously Duquesne 238/St. Bonaventure 26- 6pm facebook live St. Bonaventure - 9 1/2 Need Duquesne Binghamton 325/Vermont53 - 6pm ESPN3 No line Need Binghamton TCU 21/Iowa State 101- 7pm Cyclones.tv TCU - 5 1/2 Need Iowa St. Loyola-Chicago 41/Southern Illinois 80 - 7pm ESPN3 Loyola -2 Need S. Illinois Alabama 31/Auburn 7- 7:30 SEC Network Auburn -8 Need Auburn St. John's 70/Marquette 60 - 7:30 available on FSN in some regions so maybe on direct tv channel? Not on Fox sports go for me. Not sure this is viewable for some of us. Marquette - 4 1/2 Need St. Johns Louisville 51/Duke 4 - 8pm ESPN Duke - 11 1/2 Need Duke Florida 65/Tennessee 13 - 8pm ESPN2 Tennessee - 4 Need Tennessee UCF 64/Tulsa 86- 8pm ESPN News Tulsa -2 Need UCF Texas 59/Kansas State 52 - 8pm ESPNU Kansas St -3 Slightly better off if Kansas St. wins it looks like Boise State 50/Colorado State 218 - 8pm ESPN3 Boise St - 7 1/2 Need Colorado St. USC 42/Colorado 74 - 9:30 FS1 USC -3 Need Colorado

Very much agree about the late in the shot clock switching.

A few random takes in no particular order. 1. Indiana played really good half court defense IMO. At least against our team. The did a great job of clogging up driving lines, and making us shoot from outside. Yes, we jacked up a lot of threes in the first half. To a large extent that is what was there. It always seemed uncomfortable to get it inside, especially via the drive. Palmer was not able to do very many Palmer things tonight, and that is a credit to Indiana D. It was fortunate that we were able to get multiple transition baskets in the second half. Had that not been the case, we very well may have lost. Indiana is a pretty good team right now. 2. I was really nervous when we were down 4, and still had Palmer and Copeland on the bench. I was calling for the horses to come back in before it was too late. And then Mr. Taylor had what very well may have been a season saving three point play to cut it to to a much more comfortable one point deficit. 3. It is good to hear that those huge Indiana treys to keep coming back at us were caused by communication errors. Communication errors that were caused by them not being able to hear each other because the crowd was too loud. Trust me, if the crowd is that loud it will typically result in very good things for us. 4. We really need Watson to take a breathe and make some shots. If he does, we are so much better. 5. Not a huge deal, but I think Miles needs to be just a touch smarter when he is using Gill versus Taylor. To me, Taylor should be starting. We need Gill in the game, when we have one or two of our primary scoring options on the bench. That is when we can live with him gunning threes. Taylor makes us a much better defensive team, and we have plenty of scoring out there with our starting group. I like him in there then a little more. Again, not a big deal, just my preference. 6. We really need to work on some inbounds stuff when we have the ball along the baseline by our hoop. Just tossing long passes in to someone that are not easy, is not good enough. Other teams are looking to score off a set in those spots against us. We are merely hoping to get the ball in somehow. I am afraid this is going to bite us in the ass at a key moment, if we don't improve it.

If any common sense is implemented, you are correct. If they are dumb enough to rely on the RPI and the ludicrous quadrants that it spits out, then who knows.

On a neutral floor Michigan would be favored by a half a point or point more than Penn St. would be against us. In a tourney setting, I prefer to play the team that isn't super well coached.