jimmy, in honor of your wit and Norm's always spot on threads, the next cip contest we have, whenever that is, the prize will be two 14 oz wagyu ribeyes. Can't call them Kobe, unless they were raised in Kobe, Japan. For you city slickers, wagyu is the breed of cattle they raise in Kobe, Japan. Similar to angus in appearance, but the meat is more marbled. Doubt we've ever had an FFA meat judging discussion on this forum before.