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I've been meaning to start this in another thread, but speaking of alley-oops, unless I've missed it, it never seems like we try to incorporate the alley-oop into our half court offense, and I've wondered why that is.  

 

I think I have witnessed a few, but not very many. Perhaps an uber-athletic Anton Gill will change that!

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I wonder if Coach Miles has any drawn up plays.  Of course when I see other teams do it, it is usually because they have just a freak athlete who you doesn't need a set play, just someone you can throw it up and they'll go get it.  

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I've been meaning to start this in another thread, but speaking of alley-oops, unless I've missed it, it never seems like we try to incorporate the alley-oop into our half court offense, and I've wondered why that is.  

Especially against teams that play a 2-3 zone against us.  Backside alley oops can happen AT LEAST once a game against zones like that

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I've been meaning to start this in another thread, but speaking of alley-oops, unless I've missed it, it never seems like we try to incorporate the alley-oop into our half court offense, and I've wondered why that is.  

Especially against teams that play a 2-3 zone against us.  Backside alley oops can happen AT LEAST once a game against zones like that

 

Which always surprises me when Syracuse has such success.  It always looks like the back door lob is open.  What's stopping teams from throwing it ten times a game?

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I've been meaning to start this in another thread, but speaking of alley-oops, unless I've missed it, it never seems like we try to incorporate the alley-oop into our half court offense, and I've wondered why that is.

Especially against teams that play a 2-3 zone against us. Backside alley oops can happen AT LEAST once a game against zones like that

Which always surprises me when Syracuse has such success. It always looks like the back door lob is open. What's stopping teams from throwing it ten times a game?
Those lobs develop from set plays and Miles runs a continuity offense?
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I've been meaning to start this in another thread, but speaking of alley-oops, unless I've missed it, it never seems like we try to incorporate the alley-oop into our half court offense, and I've wondered why that is.  

Especially against teams that play a 2-3 zone against us.  Backside alley oops can happen AT LEAST once a game against zones like that

 

Which always surprises me when Syracuse has such success.  It always looks like the back door lob is open.  What's stopping teams from throwing it ten times a game?

 

 

Syracuse has a bunch of long athletic defenders that will start turning those into turnovers if you spam it too much.

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I've been meaning to start this in another thread, but speaking of alley-oops, unless I've missed it, it never seems like we try to incorporate the alley-oop into our half court offense, and I've wondered why that is.

Especially against teams that play a 2-3 zone against us. Backside alley oops can happen AT LEAST once a game against zones like that
Which always surprises me when Syracuse has such success. It always looks like the back door lob is open. What's stopping teams from throwing it ten times a game?
Those lobs develop from set plays and Miles runs a continuity offense?

 

I'm not speaking specifically of Miles...I'm saying people who play Syracuse.  They play their 2-3 zone with their low players sneaking up off the baseline quite a distance...I'm always surprised people don't scout them to run lobs behind the zone to pull those guys back, opening up holes in the middle.

 

Of course I've never coached beyond the junior high level, and my record was far from stellar (unlike some kidney fellow who used to spend time here), so I admit I really don't know much about what I'm saying. 

 

It just looks open an awful lot.

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I've been meaning to start this in another thread, but speaking of alley-oops, unless I've missed it, it never seems like we try to incorporate the alley-oop into our half court offense, and I've wondered why that is.  

Especially against teams that play a 2-3 zone against us.  Backside alley oops can happen AT LEAST once a game against zones like that

 

Which always surprises me when Syracuse has such success.  It always looks like the back door lob is open.  What's stopping teams from throwing it ten times a game?

 

 

Syracuse has a bunch of long athletic defenders that will start turning those into turnovers if you spam it too much.

 

In order to do that, wouldn't the back defenders have to cheat low in order to be in position to better snag the lob, thus opening up the middle of the zone?

 

Obviously it can't be this easy to take advantage of their zone, otherwise everyone would do it.  I get that.  But I scream inside my head every time I see the 'Cuse play, "throw the lob!"

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I've been meaning to start this in another thread, but speaking of alley-oops, unless I've missed it, it never seems like we try to incorporate the alley-oop into our half court offense, and I've wondered why that is.  

Especially against teams that play a 2-3 zone against us.  Backside alley oops can happen AT LEAST once a game against zones like that

 

Which always surprises me when Syracuse has such success.  It always looks like the back door lob is open.  What's stopping teams from throwing it ten times a game?

 

 

Syracuse has a bunch of long athletic defenders that will start turning those into turnovers if you spam it too much.

 

In order to do that, wouldn't the back defenders have to cheat low in order to be in position to better snag the lob, thus opening up the middle of the zone?

 

Obviously it can't be this easy to take advantage of their zone, otherwise everyone would do it.  I get that.  But I scream inside my head every time I see the 'Cuse play, "throw the lob!"

 

 

Syracuse has a whole lot of athletic 6'-8+ defenders in their zone, so it's tough to throw that lob unless you have an uber-athletic guy to catch & finish above the rim: Perhaps Brice Johnson of UNC will be that guy...

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I've been meaning to start this in another thread, but speaking of alley-oops, unless I've missed it, it never seems like we try to incorporate the alley-oop into our half court offense, and I've wondered why that is.  

Especially against teams that play a 2-3 zone against us.  Backside alley oops can happen AT LEAST once a game against zones like that

 

Which always surprises me when Syracuse has such success.  It always looks like the back door lob is open.  What's stopping teams from throwing it ten times a game?

 

 

Syracuse has a bunch of long athletic defenders that will start turning those into turnovers if you spam it too much.

 

In order to do that, wouldn't the back defenders have to cheat low in order to be in position to better snag the lob, thus opening up the middle of the zone?

 

Obviously it can't be this easy to take advantage of their zone, otherwise everyone would do it.  I get that.  But I scream inside my head every time I see the 'Cuse play, "throw the lob!"

 

 

Syracuse has a whole lot of athletic 6'-8+ defenders in their zone, so it's tough to throw that lob unless you have an uber-athletic guy to catch & finish above the rim: Perhaps Brice Johnson of UNC will be that guy...

 

Guys don't have to be uber athletic to finish above the rim, do they?  Most D-1 forwards/wings can catch and finish a lob, can't they?

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It just seems to me that teams could do this all day!

 

Look how far up/out their forwards are playing.  Throw the lob!

 

Rant over...I know I'm in the wrong, as it can't be this easy.

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I've been meaning to start this in another thread, but speaking of alley-oops, unless I've missed it, it never seems like we try to incorporate the alley-oop into our half court offense, and I've wondered why that is.  

Especially against teams that play a 2-3 zone against us.  Backside alley oops can happen AT LEAST once a game against zones like that

 

Which always surprises me when Syracuse has such success.  It always looks like the back door lob is open.  What's stopping teams from throwing it ten times a game?

 

 

Syracuse has a bunch of long athletic defenders that will start turning those into turnovers if you spam it too much.

 

In order to do that, wouldn't the back defenders have to cheat low in order to be in position to better snag the lob, thus opening up the middle of the zone?

 

Obviously it can't be this easy to take advantage of their zone, otherwise everyone would do it.  I get that.  But I scream inside my head every time I see the 'Cuse play, "throw the lob!"

 

 

Syracuse has a whole lot of athletic 6'-8+ defenders in their zone, so it's tough to throw that lob unless you have an uber-athletic guy to catch & finish above the rim: Perhaps Brice Johnson of UNC will be that guy...

 

Guys don't have to be uber athletic to finish above the rim, do they?  Most D-1 forwards/wings can catch and finish a lob, can't they?

 

 

I don't think it's quite that simple. In-sync timing of the pass and being able to finish *above* the rim are not that common... in tandem, that is. ;)

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