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Didn't see this video posted yet. Sorry if it is and lost in another thread.

I don't mind the way we are warming up. There are almost zero teams that roll all the way through their layup line with all form layups. I do have a question about warmups though. When did they change the dunking rule to now allow it? Used to be a technical at least during the final warmup period before the tip.

We do need to learn to step on throats. More killer instinct, prevent opponents spurtability. This game (and last) we would extend lead out to the verge of a knock out and then let them come back at us.

The most encouraging thing to me is that we have all this talent out there and it feels like they can get way way better. I feel like defense can improve a ton. We haven't peaked.

Jordy hustled and just played. I liked that we didn't force the ball through him just because he was in. He just played and if it was there then it was there.

Roby is so good. Smooth, glides, looks as if it's effortless as he jogs the floor. Never forces anything. Man we can shoot the 3 this year. We have 7 guys in the main rotation who I have confidence in when they shoot from range. Thomas Allen is gonna be a good one.

24 assists on 31 baskets

I'll tell you what, I can get a good look at a T-bone by sticking my head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take a butcher's word for it. --Tommy Boy

I thought about this during the course of the game and into the second half where Allen spent more time on the bench. Now this is no knock on Allen's talent and what he can and can potentially bring to the team. He's got everything to be a real special player here. But we kind of struck gold in the first half with Allen. The freshman comes in and hits some huge huge shots. Scores some big time points against a big time opponent in a big time game. Really kept us in the game with some key baskets. It's not that the coaching staff doesn't think he can do that against the best of the best it's just that maybe in this game it was a little unexpected. We weren't counting on him to step in and contribute 13. But he did. And so we feel fortunate that the freshman came in, probably that early because of Watson's early 2 fouls, and came up huge. Then the second half... The inexperienced freshman has 2 really, really bad freshman-like turnovers. Real bad ones. I think this was Allen's chance in the 2nd half to step up again and this time he didn't answer the call. Add to it the fact that Watson has now survived some time without adding to his foul trouble, and Miles rides the more experienced guys for the duration. It's a total risk reward proposition. In a game this close, 1 turnover can make the difference. I hate games like this because you can go back and second guess every little decision. Bottom line is we fell one shot short.

Is that the one where Azubuike was allowed to illegally screen the low man on the zone all the way down the lane? He looked like an offensive lineman on that play.

Without coming across like I'm okay with moral victories, without sounding pleased with a loss (still pissed) I'd like to point out that I'm encouraged by what I witnessed today. 1. We didn't crap our pants out of the shoot in a game against Creighton 2. We acted like we belonged on a road floor against a good team time to keep improving

Jaysker comment of the day as I left the arena. Blue fans sitting in a car waved my group of red clad people across the street. As soon as we crossed, Jaysker rolls his window down and yells "If you were Wisconsin fans I'd run you over!"

Yes. I get needing/wishing to have success inside in order to open things up for everyone else. But you can't force that. Work it inside out. Emphasis on the out. There's no reason to have Jordy begin the game with 2 straight wasted possessions. We hung with them for quite a time to start the game. I mean, it was just 10-5 after the longest time. Seemed like an opportunity to come out swinging and try to hit some shots and get a lead. Watson hit the early 3 and then it was nothing.

5-2 is about where most thought we would be to this point. We've played good in stretches and awful in other stretches. I liked the first 15 minutes of this game. The defense was there and the aggression on offense both to shoot and attack the basket was great. Movement and passing, overall energy was good. Now the tough stretch. Play only parts of a game well like today and anybody decent is going to throttle us. Continued growth, continued improvement, and a little learning on how to play a compete game. The parts are there.

Agree that we are better when we get out and run. Interesting thing about St John's and those guards they have is they play best in a helter skelter type of game. So possibly, the thought was for us to be deliberate and try to get them out of their game. Regardless, it didn't work as St Johns clearly dictated everything in that game.

Agree here about Jordy. I get why everyone's questioning whether he should start. Roby should start and Roby/Copeland are our best big guys are popular statements. These statements are correct to date and I can also see that Jordy is struggling mightily. Hopefully its just coming back from the knee surgery but we need Jordy badly. At some point we're gonna need Jordy to lean on somebody. On the season have we played a team with a traditional big yet? It certainly makes a difference. A lot of these smaller schools have "bigs" that are in the 6'7"-6'8" range who are athletic. I see all the things Jordy is doing wrong but these are also not ideal matchups for him. Hopefully he gets his act together before we see a traditional big. Like I said, at some point we'll need him.

WWW (3) L (1) Look at that. We have more Ws than Ls on the season. I like Ws. Let's keep getting them. Improve along the way. Learning how to play while accruing Ws is more fun than learning from a loss. Let's get Ws.

This thread is depressing. My thoughts after enduring that game in person. -those two guards for SJ are both pricks. Talked non-stop THE ENTIRE GAME. -game was awful -Watson out early with foul trouble in the first half, Palmer not really involved early so our guards reduced to just Gill and Allen for much of the first half. That didn't help -Gym was tiny and annoying. Noisy. Not too loud overall but just like you were in a small bathroom with someone beating on pots and pans. -students started a Fire Miles chant so that's good for everyone on here who is feeling duped by believing we'd be better and feeling like this could be last year all over again, I ask what happened to the team that beat Miss St and Iowa State and 'looked the part' of an improved team? Its just one game. It's a game we looked awful in but yet just one game. Will be extremely interesting to see what happens if we somehow get them on a neutral court next week. Have a feeling that those guys who talked crap the entire game last night won't come out on top again. Guys, we only made 16 shots from the field last night. That can't happen agaibagain

Remind me again what the max number of scheduling events is for a season??? Remember, the advantage of the neutral site preseason tournament is that it counts only as 1 scheduling event even though you are getting 3 games in most cases.

Yep Doc's scheduling made 17 wins pretty hard not to achieve.

Remember when Doc scheduled the non-con every year so we were looking at a 10-3 record worst case scenario heading into conference?

I don't think there are too many fools who expect it. But the signs out there pointing to 90-91 type season are glorious. And it's damn refreshing to think it's possible and could happen. Lets just say that the conditions are right. Most people talking about this are in the 'could be possible' club but are nowhere dumb enough to expect it. I think anyway...

But let's be honest about things. We had teams under Doc where a Brandon Richardson was "THE guy". And then there was no one else. Nothing against Brandon Richardson but that would kinda be like if our current team stopped after Evan Taylor. Good players, but need guys around them. We had teams and had certain lineups where we had 3 and 4 guys on the court at the same time that simply couldn't put the ball in the basket. You didn't know where scoring was going to come from. Sure, Doc had some go to guys he brought in with Bo Spencer or Dylan Talley but they didn't have close to the same players around them. I get that we usually hear the same type of hype and rhetoric heading into each season, and it's easy to dismiss after the team doesn't prove it on the court....especially when it happens year after year after year. Miles obviously has to have the on court results this year. But it's easy to see that the roster has trended in the right direction. Depth galore and finally have multiple low post players. The talent has risen as well. Time to win some games.

This right there means we've got options when things aren't going well. For as long as I can remember we've had players on the court because they had to be. It was like, who else? They were on the floor based on requirement and because there were no other options. No longer.