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AW-III IS BACK FOR HIS SENIOR SEASON (SOMEWHERE)
zmagic30 replied to AuroranHusker's topic in The Haymarket Hardwood
That's pretty much my point. White would be dumb (as would almost any contributing major conference junior) to not put his name out there to get some feedback, of course this is assuming that he wants to be an NBA player. Seems like a lot of work playing basketball for a living and getting paid millions of dollars to do so. No need to post anti-Creighton graphics, I can just post scores from the last five years. -
AW-III IS BACK FOR HIS SENIOR SEASON (SOMEWHERE)
zmagic30 replied to AuroranHusker's topic in The Haymarket Hardwood
That's obviously not true. It also doesn't indicate which guys have agents and which ones don't.Clearly hyperbole on my part. But my point is, getting into the NBA is like, really REALLY hard to do. If one has even the slimmest of shots at it, they must take their chance.How AWIII declaring is an indictment against anything I'll not understand. Sure, we'd like to have kids come back to play for DONU just because they love playing in Lincoln NE for free and our entertainment SO MUCH, but that's unrealistic. Not everybody is as stupid as Douggie McBuckets... Here's a link to a 2013 NBA Mock Drafthttp://www.nbadraft.net/extended-nba-mock-draft-30 Now here's a link to the NBA rookie salary scale: http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/info/rookie_scale Now, obviously we can only take mock drafts at face value, and they're harder to find for info on Doug since he inevitably stayed for his senior year, but let's take a look at the salary scale. That mock draft has Doug going 19th. The 19th overall pick would make around $4mil over the course of his rookie contract. Not bad. But he was projected to go anywhere from 19th-mid 2nd round. By staying his senior year, and averaging higher numbers in a conference that is much better than the MVC, he elevated himself to a lottery-range guy, and ended up getting drafted 11th, where he'll end up making around $6mil over the course of his rookie contract. You might have been trolling, it's all good fun, whatever. Just wanted to clarify that basic mathematics tell me that a $2mil increase in salary doesn't really look like a stupid move. He played as a walk-on his senior year. Just like parochial schools in high school, Creighton went skirting around the rules. This is unrelated. He was in a unique position due to his father being the coach of the team. I'm not sure how this, of all things, is something to complain about when it comes to the landscape of the NCAA. Here's a link to a 2013 NBA Mock Drafthttp://www.nbadraft.net/extended-nba-mock-draft-30 Now here's a link to the NBA rookie salary scale: http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/info/rookie_scale Now, obviously we can only take mock drafts at face value, and they're harder to find for info on Doug since he inevitably stayed for his senior year, but let's take a look at the salary scale. That mock draft has Doug going 19th. The 19th overall pick would make around $4mil over the course of his rookie contract. Not bad. But he was projected to go anywhere from 19th-mid 2nd round. By staying his senior year, and averaging higher numbers in a conference that is much better than the MVC, he elevated himself to a lottery-range guy, and ended up getting drafted 11th, where he'll end up making around $6mil over the course of his rookie contract. You might have been trolling, it's all good fun, whatever. Just wanted to clarify that basic mathematics tell me that a $2mil increase in salary doesn't really look like a stupid move. I will concede that in hindsight it all worked out for him. He was able to hang out with his bros for another year, win the Wooden award, and likely earned his father enough goodwill with the Creighton fanbase that coach chewie will end up making millions of $ more than he possibly would have otherwise. The risk paid off. But let's play devil's advocate for a moment here. What would have happened if he decided to come back and had suffered a season ending knee injury in early December? (remember he had knee surgery first NBA season, so it's not like he was immune to potential knee issues) He wouldn't be drafted at all, let alone the lottery. NOW he's relegated to Europe or the D-League and is forced to fight his way into the NBA, where he may or may not have made it. How many millions of dollars would he have given up then? All so he can come back for his senior year...as a walk on? He would be looked at as being more foolish than Colby Donaldson in season 2 of Survivor. I understand where you're coming from, but I would say there's a chance that, given he does get injured his senior year, he still would have been a late 1st/2nd round pick. Not a lot of money there (comparatively speaking), but a pro team would still own the rights to his name. He still would have been on a summer league roster. He was a known, safe commodity after his junior year. The Bulls wanted to draft him since early in his sophomore season. I honestly believe (maybe I'm biased) that it was a reward > risk decison. I think there was more risk in him coming back and under-performing in the new Big East. If he hadn't been able to compete, I think it would have been a bigger problem than an injury. Kind of like how Petteway would have been better off declaring after his sophomore year (IMO) rather than stay another year and then deal with the 2014-15 team and all of the whole team's chemistry problems. Still think he finds his way on to a roster eventually though. As for AW3, I think he's a guy (much like Watson Jr.) who could benefit from the rule change. Put your name out there, get feedback, if you don't like what you hear then bust your tail working on whatever shortcomings were in your evaluation. -
AW-III IS BACK FOR HIS SENIOR SEASON (SOMEWHERE)
zmagic30 replied to AuroranHusker's topic in The Haymarket Hardwood
That's obviously not true. It also doesn't indicate which guys have agents and which ones don't. Clearly hyperbole on my part. But my point is, getting into the NBA is like, really REALLY hard to do. If one has even the slimmest of shots at it, they must take their chance.How AWIII declaring is an indictment against anything I'll not understand. Sure, we'd like to have kids come back to play for DONU just because they love playing in Lincoln NE for free and our entertainment SO MUCH, but that's unrealistic. Not everybody is as stupid as Douggie McBuckets... Here's a link to a 2013 NBA Mock Drafthttp://www.nbadraft.net/extended-nba-mock-draft-30 Now here's a link to the NBA rookie salary scale: http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/info/rookie_scale Now, obviously we can only take mock drafts at face value, and they're harder to find for info on Doug since he inevitably stayed for his senior year, but let's take a look at the salary scale. That mock draft has Doug going 19th. The 19th overall pick would make around $4mil over the course of his rookie contract. Not bad. But he was projected to go anywhere from 19th-mid 2nd round. By staying his senior year, and averaging higher numbers in a conference that is much better than the MVC, he elevated himself to a lottery-range guy, and ended up getting drafted 11th, where he'll end up making around $6mil over the course of his rookie contract. You might have been trolling, it's all good fun, whatever. Just wanted to clarify that basic mathematics tell me that a $2mil increase in salary doesn't really look like a stupid move. -
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The Best Players in Nebraska Since Miles Was Hired
zmagic30 replied to hhctony's topic in The Haymarket Hardwood
Not sure where you're coming from here, Tony, to be honest. Your post makes it sound like you think the one guy we actually tried to get wasn't worth the effort, but it sure would have been nice to have a 6'9", 240# center on the floor for us last night. The one at UNO that leads the nation in steals/game: You think he should be a Husker? You fault Miles for not offering? Now, Patton and Thomas. Let's take Patton. Who offered besides Creighton? He blew up the summer AFTER they offered and wound up something like a 5-star per Scout.com. But 5-star players don't need a developmental year as a redshirt. Players who need to take redshirt years weren't worthy of being considered 5-star players. Period. Thomas. You think Miles missed on him? Miles and 350 other D1 coaches? I agree. Here's what I said about Thomas, in the "In state kids" thread on the recruiting page on February 12, 2015: It's very easy to look at last night's box score and say we shoulda. Or to look at Creighton's season stats and see what this kid ended up doing. But what did you have to say about him BEFORE he stepped foot on a college campus? Patton actually had offers from Oregon and Texas almost immediately after he committed, but his AAU coach started handling all of the phone calls and telling schools that he was committed and that they should stop calling. -
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Nebraska (6-3) vs. Blueturds (5-3) Game Thread
zmagic30 replied to Bugeaters1's topic in The Haymarket Hardwood
Creighton fan here - just wanted to say that you guys have a lot of good tools going forward. White is a really good college player, and is pretty much who we thought we were getting with Huff. It's really just a matter of coaching when it comes to this game. McDermott just seems to gameplan really well for the Nebraska game, and not so well for others (ahem, Loyola and ASU.) Give it some time and you guys will be just fine, especially next year. Watson will be very good and Morrow will be a serviceable 4 man. Anton Gill is also a very good player. It's just one game and I think the Huskers will end up better in the B1G than Creighton will in the Big East. Good luck going forward.