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Buy them at Hy-Vee tonight, then leave the box open for a couple of days.

OP has a weird, and some might think, unhealthy obsession with Teddy Allen. Also, a bad habit of cluttering up the board with constant new threads finding ways to mention Teddy Allen. Here's a tip for anyone who thinks it might be a good idea to click on the button labeled "Start new topic"...don't. Just don't. There's almost always already a relevant topic on the board where one can post their thoughts. There's already at least two current threads OP could have posted his thoughts in that would serve to move discussion forward. Starting new threads to post a random thought then never following up is a strong indicator of troll activity and whenever we have a new member that comes in and starts a bunch of new threads I'm always very leery. And just for the record, @Husker Hoops Penitent seems like an okay person. I don't really have a beef with his Teddy Allen obsession per se, I just have hope that he will be a more active participant in the community's discussion rather than forcing everyone to participate in topics only he's interested in. This is just a pet peeve of mine. I wish there was a minimum post requirement for starting new threads here.

I think we need to start expecting more of our guys. Not saying we should expect 20 wins or even that we should have expected them to win today. However we have to expect them to shoot better, play hard the whole game, not fall behind by 30, ect. We can’t just sit back the ENTIRE year and say “well we haven’t played together that much, well it’s year one, etc. I don’t think it’s right to let the players or Fred off the hook for losses like we saw in our first two games or for being behind 40-9.

Serious question...when Creighton vacates this win in a few years, will this retroactively impact the 2019-2020 HHC prediction contest?

Weird Curtis didn't want the free trip to Omaha

On a day like today, coming here to bash a guy that hasn’t been our coach in 9 months, got us our first NCAA tournament appearance in so many years I don’t remember, got us our first draft pick since I don’t remember, and was an overall great guy and ambassador for the program as one of your first posts is a good way to make one think you might be wearing blue today.

I'm not buying the "whole team is new" argument. This is the reality of college basketball and there are a ton of teams with huge turnover who wouldn't fall behind Creighton by 30.

your co-workers were full of shit. They brought back a lot and were just out of the top 25 to start the season

Not sure how bringing in a guy who didn't believe in anyone enough to stick around would make any difference in this game

Hell... right now, Hallmark Christmas movies might be more entertaining.

Can we chalk the slow start up to jet lag?

Might as well leave now to beat the traffic...

To the Husker community, and 49r in particular- I meant no harm by starting a new thread and will try to participate more in current threads. I must confess a weakness for Husker outbursts of that nature. As for my obsession with Allen, it definitely is that, and quite likely unhealthy. Consider it a form of P.T.S.D. at seeing the rare few local players who could likely reverse the trend of Husker basketball's historic underachievement sign with other schools. But I will go one step further: the whole notion of a fifty-four year old man caring about the on-court results of late-teen-early twenty year old men I don't know, playing a game I never played competitively is weird. As for the oblique intimations that I am a troll are unfounded. I'm quite sure I would score in the upper 80th percentile in any reasonable survey of Husker basketball history, but as I am not as seasoned as 49r in message board protocols it seems fair to assume. That said, now go get Teddy Allen!

Play Easley.

And then, one day, they made computers so easy to use that even the simplest members of the population could give voice to their opinions on the magic that is the internet. And then, the world went to shit.

Pouting your way into the lineup isn't going to cut it at this school nor should it. If Arop or Easley end up in the rotation it will because they earned their way in

Teams have roster turnover, that's NCAA basketball in 2019, but after a trip to Italy and eight games of the season, blaming 30 point deficits on newness is disingenuous, It's lack of talent, lack of effort, lack of strategy.

Arop and Easley coming in

Huh. I never figured a bunch of rich entitled kids from Chicago and Millard would still be complaining about officials' calls with a 23-point lead late in the game. Who knew?

well, they score like doc's old teams. a shame they can't defend like them tho.

All I heard was that JD Speilman wasn’t good enough to start for Minnesota or Ohio St...

Leaning toward not winning another game, even if we don’t come back in this one. Let’s do our part to tank Creighton’s SOS & NET rankings. (Hey, if you can’t find something to cheer for, try to bring everyone else down with you...)

Well fellas, this sucks. I work with a bunch of CU Alums in Omaha and work won’t be fun on Monday. I will just say this. Somewhere, somehow, Nebraska male athletes don’t compete with as much fire as other schools. I know that’s a big generalization, but look at Marcus Zegarowski and Shereef Mitchell. Those guys are playing 120% full out offensively and defensively. Their effort can’t be questioned. Most of our guys look like they’d rather go back to the “just got done with the scrimmage now waiting for Rick Ross to perform” memory. You can say it’s a transition year or a rebuilding year all you want, but that doesn’t mean the players should come out tucked and defeated within the first few minutes. My CU alum coworkers all told me this was a massive rebuilding year for CU, I think they only have 7 available scholarship players today. i didn’t expect to win, but I did expect more effort and fight.

My expectations of the team this season aren't derived from the score of the game. 17% shooting for much of this game isn't acceptable from any Division 1 player.

Things to build on: No one transferred during the first half

Across multiple coaches and multiple different teams with about all new players.

The average Nebraska basketball fan isn't a fan of Nebraska basketball. So they'll continue to judge Hoiberg and yet not watch more than 20 minutes in an entire season.

He will get his time, especially because it is Husker Basketball. Can't judge the dude on anything that happens this year, with this roster.

Can't give up a bunch of O rebounds if they make all their shots!

Every member of this team is now qualified for a major in masonry.

I would be surprised if there isn't another player who transfers by the end of the year, at least. When Coaches with Hoiberg's ability and expectations field a team this bad, or perhaps "incomplete" yet there are scholarship players who don't see playing time it usually portends roster upheaval. I have always used Kansas as the measure of a healthy program. I can't recall ever seeing a scholarship freshman non-contributor stick around more than a couple of years before transferring- usually they leave after their forgettable freshman season. Scholarships are golden and if one aims for real success then seeing a man perpetually riding the bench is alarming. I am not saying improvement through the years isn't to be expected but rarely does anyone go from next to no minutes as freshmen on a bad team to any kind of large contribution in the next couple of years. I certainly can't recall any at NU- perhaps someone else does. Nevertheless an example cited likely proves the "rule" In addition to (hopefully) Teddy Allen, NU needs two great re-bounders next season to make significant improvement so Curtis' defection may be viewed as addition by subtraction. Now we'll see if Abdelmassih is worth the high salary. (I think he is but the verdict is out....)

Hey, maybe this is like the Deverell Biggs situation and this is the spark the team needs to make their NCAA Tournament run (or win 4-5 games in conference)

Without a doubt Creighton is a rivalry and it should be now. Like it or not they are a Power 6 conference, legit tourney team most years type of program right down the road. The hate is real. Iowa is/will be our main Big10 rival with Wiscy close behind. I don’t like the TO and OU comparison. Hoops you play a lot more games and your conference rivals twice a year, so no one game is make or break. I do think Miles got a lot of benefit winning last year at least in Omaha but obviously not enough to overcome the melt down.

Count me in on seeing Easley and Arop more.. At least they'll play hard.

First game against a tournament caliber team

We've had a trip to Italy, 2 months of practice, and 8 games to figure out how not to fall behind by 30. I think was Scott is saying is... when does this stop becoming the excuse and we expect to see more and improvement from this team?

What’s MOST discouraging, (& Fred speaks to this constantly) is when we get “popped in the mouth” we’re done...

Could be true for some. Its hard to tell when everyone/everything is new, many players are playing out of position and are taking on bigger roles than what their skill level calls for.

Summary of the first half

McVeigh or Kavas...give me Australia!

It's funny that FH was to be a shooting guru. but we haven't seen the progress from that.

Well, be thankful yer not here in person...

Would be nice if we had anyone who could shoot 40% from deep. Perhaps we should play Easely.

@Husker Hoops Penitent thanks for taking my constructive criticism at face value, I certainly don't want to discourage you from posting, like I said you seem like a pretty all right guy. I personally just like to see people get rewarded by starting thoughtful topics that have lots of active participation, and I think that when someone else then starts a very similar topic of discussion, especially when that similar thread is still so active, that seems like a slight to the original thread topic, plus it really clutters up the board. But like I said before it's a pet peeve of mine, that's all. And believe me when I say you aren't alone in your desire to see Nebrasketball start to lock down the local talent once again. That's how Danny built such a strong program during his time here. But also join me in recognizing that there are more dudes out there than just this one. I'm willing to put my complete trust in this staff to accurately evaluate who is likely to be a perfect fit for their program, and willing to let that happen. Hopefully the rest of us can too, because if we're willing to be patient I think they can build something pretty special here. If it happens to be they think Allen will work out then I'm good with that. If not, I'm good with that too. Trust me when I say I know that Fred Hoiberg alone has more basketball knowledge in his pinky finger than the entirety of the HHC community has combined. (except maybe Bruce Chubick but I'm not sure he's ever on here any more) Oh, and 54 is probably closer to the median age of the posters here than you might realize.

Hoiberg didn't recruit Burke nor Thor. Kavas and Cheatham won't be here next year anyway. The simplest explanation for Curtis not playing was that he wasn't good enough in practice to crack the rotation and the simplest explanation for his leaving is that he didn't come here to sit.

Just saw your bump, nice read. Very talented but if that attitude reared it's head this early, he will need to check that. Also with Hoiberg's NBA connections, maybe not the best person to butt heads with!

And I’d argue he’s one of the best at it.

Neb 88 The other school 80

Missouri losing a buy game. The epitome of brutality.