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  1. 1. The 2005 class was recruited and coached by Barry Collier not Doc Sadler. Doc's first season coaching at Nebraska was 2006-2007. Oddly enough, the 2006 class that Barry brought in had promise with Roburt Sallie, Toni Soda, Kris Douse, and Ryan Anderson (I think Jay-R Strowbridge and Sek Henry were added by Doc, please correct me if I am wrong). 2. Doc's first real class was the 2007 group which, as I recalled, was supposed to fill roster spots with ready-to-play guys like Steve Harley and Adie Dagunduro mixed with some good high school kids in Cookie Miller, Alonzo Edwards, and Tony McCray. But there was immediate trouble in the front court with JC's Adam Chapman and Shang Ping. Those two misses were HUGE as pretty much all of Barry's big men, with the exception of a hobbled Balham, were gone. We were left with a guard heavy team and no future front court outside of Edwards (who transferred). 3. 2008 Was supposed to cure the front court problems but . . . the facts speak for themselves. Niemann had knee problems and Diaz was not even admitted until half way through the season. However, it seems Doc's attempt to just fill the bench with warm bodies backfired as there were not enough scholarships to bring in more than 3 players (also wasn't Bear Jones a last minute addition when he had qualification issues??). 4. 2009: Good class but it almost seemed Doc was just trying to fill out his bench. Cookie Miller and Alonzo Edwards transfer. Harley, Adie, and Balham graduate. Sek Henry and Ryan Anderson are left from 2006, and Richardson and McCray remain from the 9 member class of 2007. That FIVE (5) players remaining from classes comprising FIFTEEN (15) players. Keeping 1 of 3 recruited and signed players is NEVER a good thing. As a result Doc had to bring in Jeter (a solid player) and Hankins (McDonald's anyone?): two more JUCO players when he should have been giving scholarships to high school players. The high school players, Standhardinger, Gallegos, Ubel, Holley were probably Doc's best group of high school players. However, Ubel was supposed to be more of a stretch PF (so no true big man) and there was no true point guard in the high school class. 5. 2010: Walker and Almedia. While both had their value, the complete lack of high school kids pretty much signaled the end of Doc. Still no young point guard since Cookie Miller and no high school inside banger. 6. 2011: Finally a high school PG in Hilliard with two SF's; no JUCO's; still no high school big man to play in the post. I think this class was finally in the right direction but it was too late. Looking back, Doc was poor at planning around his needs. He seemed to keep loading up on combo guards and wings. That is fine except when having those players defend a 6-8 to 6-10 bruiser in the middle. Yes the big guys he recruited had unforeseeable issues (transfers, injuries, and qualification issues), but his fix was short term in the form of JUCO's. Plus, factor in issues at PG, and a squad comprised entirely of combo guards and wings just will not work without a ball distributor or a legitimate post presence. If Doc had not relied so heavily on JUCO's and focused on developmental guys, there probably would be more depth on this team. One last thing to think about. Let's assume Gallegos had not redshirted, Rivers would be most senior player on the team with him and Biggs being the only upperclassmen. Now that is even more scary to think about.
    2 points
  2. That class was a serious problem for this program. It drives home the point of how you cannot consistently make a living with juco players. Theyr'e gone too soon. Caleb Walker was a good player for us (not great, but certainly good.) But we only had him 2 years and one of those years he was basically adapting to the D1 game. Andre has struggled with injuries and weight but has had moments of decent productivity. Refuse to call him a wasted scholarship. But Kamyron Brown was a total waste. I think we had two players transfer in under Doc and neither one of them panned out. One of them never played; the other played half a season. Both were kicked out of the program for one reason or another. But if you look at what we signed that year -- Caleb, Andre, and Kamyron Brown -- you have to call that a horrid recruiting class. Find one that's worse. (OK, maybe don't. That might get depressing.) And let me ask this question: Can a program like Nebraska afford to have a year where you wind up with a recruiting class that contributes a grand total of 2,278 career minutes, 692 career points and 76 career starts for the whole recruiting class*? For comparison purposes, Brandon Ubel alone has 2875 career minutes, 837 career points and 85 career starts**. *With 2 games left to play in that class's final season. ** With 2 games left to play in his career.
    2 points
  3. I love following Nebrasketball, as a student/alum/fan it's easy to follow every sport we offer (because we have seen major success in almost all of them), but Nebraska Basketball is different it's the "True Nebraska Fan's Team", my favorite line of dear old Nebraska U. states it best "we'll all stick together in all kinds of weather". The potential has never been truly reached, but it can be seen, and one day it will reached, and I'm sure for many of us it will be quite rewarding when that day does come. As a recent graduate of Nebraska, I used to have a lot of "ins" with the athletic department through walk-ons, trainers, and support staff. However, as my friends have also graduated, and now that I'm at Iowa State working on my Ph.D., I was looking for ways to stay informed and found the HHC around 2 years ago. I officially got a log-in to follow the recruiting section on this board, which by the way is a great add to this board. I enjoy reading each of your perspectives on game performances, philosophies, and long term prospects for our team. I have thought many times about posting, or adding to the conversation, but always deleted it, maybe now that the ice has been broken I will start to add my input from time to time. Being in Ames, and having friends who are fellow B1G alums, I travel to a bunch of our road games, and I've lost count of how many times opposing fans have told me that they're concerned UNL will become a contender in basketball, how they wish Tim Miles was their head coach and how much they think Nebraska is an ideal fit in the B1G (this has been accelerated when we announced the addition of Rutgers and U. of Maryland). I'm one of those four loud yells you hear when we score and crowd goes silent (usually when my fellow Kansan Shavon Shields starts to take over the game, boy does that kid have some potential). Last but not least, I can't think of a better day to have a first post on HHC than the closing game of the Bob (which will be a win)! Yell loud for all of us fellow Huskers who can't make it Lincoln this evening, it means a lot to us, when we can show our fellow B1G fans how well we travel for football, volleyball, (one day basketball), and how loud our home-court can be even when we have a below-average team.
    2 points
  4. Worst class? How is that? Diaz and Jones were some of the most skilled players that Doc ever recruited! How are they doing this season at Nebraska....oh wait thats right none of them are still here. Skilled or not they never lived up to any of their hype and are not here anymore so thats a wasted class when not one of them are here anymore. Last I check Bear was leading his team in scoring and did pretty well last year. It's not their fault Doc didn't use them properly and wouldn't take the leash off. And if they were here this would be a much improved team. I'd hope he was leading a D-2 team in scoring after being a D-1 transfer.
    1 point
  5. So... You like the Shields kid, too, eh? Indeed! I know this has been posted on here before about Shavon being streaky, and if you look at his stats, there's no denying that, however if you get past the early season injury conversation there is one key stat that you can look at to show why he's on or off, that's his foul trouble look at this past month: Opp-PF-PTS-REB @MINN 1 10 3 OSU 1 6 3 PSU 4 7 3 @IU 4 5 3 MSU 1 19 13 IOWA 2 17 7 @WISC 4 2 7 @ILL 4 9 5 As a Freshman post player in the B1G it's tough to stay out of foul trouble, but when he has and is able to stay in the game, he has really been able to show his true potential, and that's why I believe an off-season with this staff, learning how to play the game better, improve his basketball IQ and stay off the bench due to fouls, boy we could be looking at real special player!
    1 point
  6. We seem to be putting a lot of weight on the shoulders of three or four true freshmen and 3 guys who haven't played an actual game in over a year. I expect next year's record to be similar to this year's, but the style of basketball and natural talent on the court will see a huge improvement. Naturally, not showing any improvement record-wise will lead to some idiots to start calling for Miles' head. If you are expecting a huge leap in year two, I'd recommend tampering your expectations. Ubel and Talley are going to be bigger losses than they appear
    1 point
  7. TheKamdyMan

    Nick Fuller POY

    I could see him playing the same amount of minutes as Sam Dekker at Wisconsin did at the beginning of the year and then hope he has the same progression Sam has had in conference by playing and scoring more as the year went on.
    1 point
  8. Tim Miles remarked to a few boosters recently that he's concerned about fan expectations for next season being unrealistic. Losing Ubel and Talley will really hurt, we have no big men who can really play a traditional 4 or 5 role, and we have a ton of young, inexperienced players coming in. The staff definitely believes that it's possible that we actually could have a worse record next season than we do this season. Optimism can be fun, but it's very difficult for me, at least, to fathom a scenario in which Nebraska wins 10 B1G games next year. There's just no logical basis I can see for such a prediction. I find it hard to believe that a staff that believed they could win 8 games this year, fears that we will be worse next year. May I ask where you got that info? I'd rather not say where I got it, but the main gist of what was said was that fans should be realistic in their expectations given that we lose the team's leading scorer as well as the team's only true post players. Half of next year's scholarship roster will never have played in a B1G game before. There's only one scholarship senior on next year's team, and only two juniors, one of whom is a JUCO transfer who's only played in an exhibition game. It's going to be an extremely young team made up of mostly freshmen and sophomores. Next season is a huge wildcard. No one here really knows quite what to expect. How could we with so many new variables in the mix? I'm not saying the staff has a doom and gloom view toward next season, because that's not at all what I've heard -- just that they do have a bit of trepidation about how things will come together next year with so many new young faces in the mix and the team's only two real post players having departed.
    1 point
  9. swmckewon

    Dylan Talley

    Doc was skilled at weaving a compelling tale of woe.
    1 point
  10. Jorge Diaz, Bear Jones, and Chris Niemann would be a good fight for worst class.
    -1 points
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