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    uneblinstu's postgame chatter: vol 15, ed 26: vs Wisconsin

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    52 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said:

     

    Rutgers is a Quad 1 game for us. As is the road game at Iowa. The only Quad 1 game at home left on our schedule is Maryland. Mich St is a Quad 2 and Minnesota is a Quad 4.

     

    So, of our 5 remaining regular season games, three of them are Quad 1, one is a Quad 2, and one is a Quad 4.

     

    From what I've seen, I think we have a shot at winning out at home; I do not think we have a shot at picking up a road game.

     

    In order for us to get to .500, therefore, we would need to win out at home AND pick up two wins in the conference tourney. And I think that would get us to 17-17. If my math is right. Which it usually isn't.

     

    Interesting if that will be good enough for NIT with our NET ranking being around 100 at the moment

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    2 minutes ago, kldm64 said:

     

    Interesting if that will be good enough for NIT with our NET ranking being around 100 at the moment

     

    Last time I checked, 32 plus 68 is 100, but, again, my math isn't very good.

     

    Of course, if we get to 17-17, we'll be well into the 80s, probably.

     

    But don't trust my math.

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    14 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said:

     

    Last time I checked, 32 plus 68 is 100, but, again, my math isn't very good.

     

    Of course, if we get to 17-17, we'll be well into the 80s, probably.

     

    But don't trust my math.

     

    Ha, yeah, 100 in the NET isn't going to cut it.  I know the NIT awards automatic bids to teams that win their regular season conference race but lose in the tournament.  That will probably suck up 10 or so spots in the NIT but that is purely a guess.  Plus, you have, I don't know, 16 or more teams make the NCAA tournament (thinking seeds 13-16) and would otherwise not qualify if not for winning their conference tourney and having the auto bid.  So, that's roughly 26 out of the 100 that would be well below 100 in the NET rankings.  My guess, having done no research, is that at worst you probably need to be in the 60's to low 70's to sniff NIT at large territory.

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    On 2/11/2023 at 6:53 PM, nuhusker7 said:

    The way I see it, I want them to play the first day. If we finish 15-16, then we win two games in the tourney we can be post season eligible.

     

    We could win out at home and that’s where we get. Beating Rutgers and iowa on the road are possible, but long shots IMO.


    Or we just win the next 5.

     

     

    I thought there was a tournament we could play in with a losing record?

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    5 minutes ago, PimpMario said:

     

    I thought there was a tournament we could play in with a losing record?

     

    Yeah, I believe the CBI and CIT (renamed The College Basketball Classic) typically allow sub .500 records.  These are pay to play tournaments and generally do not include Power 5 teams.

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    Regarding a .500 record requirement, here is information from that highly-authoritative source called Wikipedia:

     

    "In an effort to maintain some quality, a rule saying that a team must have a .500 or better overall record to qualify for the NIT was imposed.

    The NCAA announced a revamped selection process starting with the 2017 tournament. The main highlights are:

    • Teams are no longer required to have .500 or greater overall records to receive bids.
    • Similar to the automatic bids the NCAA Tournament grants for all conference tournament champions, all teams that won regular-season conference championships but failed to earn NCAA tournament bids are guaranteed places in the NIT."

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    3 minutes ago, Swan88 said:

    Regarding a .500 record requirement, here is information from that highly-authoritative source called Wikipedia:

     

    "In an effort to maintain some quality, a rule saying that a team must have a .500 or better overall record to qualify for the NIT was imposed.

    The NCAA announced a revamped selection process starting with the 2017 tournament. The main highlights are:

    • Teams are no longer required to have .500 or greater overall records to receive bids.
    • Similar to the automatic bids the NCAA Tournament grants for all conference tournament champions, all teams that won regular-season conference championships but failed to earn NCAA tournament bids are guaranteed places in the NIT."

     

    That makes sense, thank you!

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    1 hour ago, Nebrasketball1979 said:

     

    Ha, yeah, 100 in the NET isn't going to cut it.  I know the NIT awards automatic bids to teams that win their regular season conference race but lose in the tournament.  That will probably suck up 10 or so spots in the NIT but that is purely a guess.  Plus, you have, I don't know, 16 or more teams make the NCAA tournament (thinking seeds 13-16) and would otherwise not qualify if not for winning their conference tourney and having the auto bid.  So, that's roughly 26 out of the 100 that would be well below 100 in the NET rankings.  My guess, having done no research, is that at worst you probably need to be in the 60's to low 70's to sniff NIT at large territory.

     

    So, you think if we get to 17-17, we'll still be hovering around 100 in the NET?

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    Just now, Norm Peterson said:

     

    So, you think if we get to 17-17, we'll still be hovering around 100 in the NET?

     

    As some have pointed out, margin of victory is clearly part of the formula when you look at our wins and relative losses compared to other schools with similar Quad 1-4 records that are ranked substantially higher than us.  To me it looks like we need some style points in both are wins and losses down the stretch.  But, if we do manage to go 17-17, I would be shocked if we aren't higher in the NET than we are today.  Would it be enough to jump 30-40 spots.  Who the heck knows.

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    1 hour ago, hhcmatt said:

    Hold on to these fuzzy feelings for when we hit the 2nd half of the Rutgers game

     

    My prediction is we will almost immediately fall behind by 20-25 points in the first half, then cut the deficit back to single digits with about 3-4 minutes left and settle around 14-16 points behind by halftime.  There will be plenty of positive emotions because "hey we overcame the same obstacle against Wisco". 

     

    Then they bleed us dry in the second half and blow us out by 20+ points.

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    Looking at Bracket Matrix

     

    1st 4 out (1 seeds in the NIT)

     

    Texas A & M (33 NET) SEC

    Wisconsin (80) Big 10

    Mississippi State (41) SEC

    Oregon (50) Pac 12

     

    Next 3 (2 seeds in NIT)

    Utah State (37) MWC

    Arizona State(65) Pac 12

    Seton Hall (61) Big East

     

    Power 6 teams that would do not make NCAA tournament in the Bracket Matrix in the Top 100

     

    SEC

    Florida 53

    Vanderbilt 93

     

    ACC

    Wake Forest 73

    Syracuse 98

     

    Big 12

    Texas Tech 70

    Oklahoma 76

     

    Big East

    Villanova 85

    St John's 99

     

    Big 10

    Michigan 68

    Penn St 67

    Ohio St 54

    Nebraska 100

     

    Pac 12

    Utah 52

    Colorado 71

    Washington State 81

     

    MWC

    New Mexico 48

    UNLV 83

     

    We assume the top 7 make it, and give us 10 auto bids.  That leaves the NIT to fill 15 spots

     

    Last 4 in NCAA  tournament

    N Carolina (40)

    Memphis (42)

    Kentucky (46)

    Clemson (77)

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    Catching up on some threads after being away from the forum for a while. Nice call by everyone who gave us no shot at Rutgers 😂 (neither did I). 

     

    Seriously, reading these comments, is Rutgers the biggest and most surprising win of the year? I would’ve said the Creighton game couldn’t be topped in that aspect but maybe this did it?

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