Starting PF: Andrew White

[Huskerpapa]

KNTK - Morning Take:  What will the Nebrasketball lineup look like this year?

 

http://www.theticketfm.com/podcasts/morningtake/2015_11_05_2.mp3

 

Also, should Nebraska fans storm the field if they beat Michigan State?

NO!!!!

[Silverbacked1]

KNTK - Morning Take:  What will the Nebrasketball lineup look like this year?

 

http://www.theticketfm.com/podcasts/morningtake/2015_11_05_2.mp3

 

Also, should Nebraska fans storm the field if they beat Michigan State?

That is assuming any students show up.

[AuroranHusker]

 

 

 

 

To me Fuller is the new David Rivers. He is the glue guy that every good team has.

Might not play for a month and then bang is in it up to his neck. I like the little things he does on the court, loose balls, rebound, set picks.

He seems to have a high Basketball IQ just not as physically gifted as we had hoped.

If he could find his 3 point stroke that he seemed to have in high school he would see the floor more.

 

I'm content that Nick Fuller is a Husker. A team is made up of all types of personalities and roles.  Not every player on the roster is going to be the 'go-to' guy on the squad. Fuller appears to enjoy being a part of the team in Lincoln, NE, and he's a great role player & practice performer from all accounts. Nothing wrong with that. 

 

 

On one hand, Miles had "the talk" with Benny and BP responded by contributing to our run to the NCAA tournament and becoming a valuable member of the rotation. On the other hand, if Fuller isn't going to play meaningful minutes ever we've locked up a schollie we could use on a JUCO big, another transfer, or something like that. Us playing zone this year will definitely help him to get on the floor and hide his slowness. Him actually shooting when he's out there certainly would help as well....after two years I can only speculate how good a guy with 8 3pt attempts is.

 

 

There's still an open schollie. Why does Nick have to 'open' up his?  He's a valuable member of the team, and he's clearly getting better as Nick was Lifter of the Year on the squad not long ago. It's too bad that he hasn't found a more defined role in which he could have contributed in a more meaningful way, but that's up to the coaches to put him in a position to contribute with his deficiency and all. Maybe NU should use that LAST schollie before we go with the notion that Nick's should be 'open' for some unknown *2nd* player. Just a thought...

 

 

You might want to re-read that again. I wasn't advocating for Fuller to be released from scholarship. I'm stating he's at the same crossroads that Benny was as a sophomore and I was pointing out what we're losing out on if he's not able to get on the floor and contribute over the next 3 years. I get that we have an open scholarship but we also don't oversign guys either. 

 

When Benny got his chance to play, he made the most of it. Is Fuller going to do the same thing? No idea.

 

 

I realize that, others here have, though. It was a general sentiment... BTW, Benny was told by Miles to hit the bricks if he wants to play, do we know that Nick has had a similar "talk"?

[hhcmatt]

BTW, Benny was told by Miles to hit the bricks if he wants to play, do we know that Nick has had a similar "talk"?

 

He has

[AuroranHusker]

 

BTW, Benny was told by Miles to hit the bricks if he wants to play, do we know that Nick has had a similar "talk"?

 

He has

 

 

That's news to me. Well, then, I temper those sentiments a bit with a sincere hope that he improves to help the squad more than he's done so far; I do like his hustle, constant work ethic and general stick-to-it-iveness. NU needs more guys that have Nick's intangibles, IMHO.

[MandRHusker]

What I like about Fuller in the bit I've seen of him on the floor is his headiness.  He moves without the ball and gets to the rim.  Backdoor cuts for open looks are things I like, and I have a vivid picture of Fuller doing just that for an easy bucket.  We haven't seen a lot of that from other guys the last couple of years.  He's also not afraid to go after offensive rebounds, something else we haven't seen much of in the recent past.

 

I'd like to see more of the kid, honestly.  I think he has things to bring to the table other than a 3-point shot that may or may not be any good.

I didn't mean to just bash Nick. I do love his gritty, do whatever it takes play.

[Hooper]

I don't see the upside of having Fuller on the court over someone like Jack McVeigh, for example. I feel that Nick is going to have a hard time seeing substantial minutes this season if his shot isn't falling. 

[uneblinstu]

 

 

 

To me Fuller is the new David Rivers. He is the glue guy that every good team has.

Might not play for a month and then bang is in it up to his neck. I like the little things he does on the court, loose balls, rebound, set picks.

He seems to have a high Basketball IQ just not as physically gifted as we had hoped.

If he could find his 3 point stroke that he seemed to have in high school he would see the floor more.

 

I'm content that Nick Fuller is a Husker. A team is made up of all types of personalities and roles.  Not every player on the roster is going to be the 'go-to' guy on the squad. Fuller appears to enjoy being a part of the team in Lincoln, NE, and he's a great role player & practice performer from all accounts. Nothing wrong with that. 

 

 

On one hand, Miles had "the talk" with Benny and BP responded by contributing to our run to the NCAA tournament and becoming a valuable member of the rotation. On the other hand, if Fuller isn't going to play meaningful minutes ever we've locked up a schollie we could use on a JUCO big, another transfer, or something like that. Us playing zone this year will definitely help him to get on the floor and hide his slowness. Him actually shooting when he's out there certainly would help as well....after two years I can only speculate how good a guy with 8 3pt attempts is.

 

 

There's still an open schollie. Why does Nick have to 'open' up his?  He's a valuable member of the team, and he's clearly getting better as Nick was Lifter of the Year on the squad not long ago. It's too bad that he hasn't found a more defined role in which he could have contributed in a more meaningful way, but that's up to the coaches to put him in a position to contribute with his deficiency and all. Maybe NU should use that LAST schollie before we go with the notion that Nick's should be 'open' for some unknown *2nd* player. Just a thought...

 

Stronger =/= better. He doesn't have to open it up for the team's sake, but I think it would make a lot of sense for him to open it up for his sake. If he likes it here and is content in his role, more power to him, but he if want s to play and have a meaningful role on the court, I think he'll regret not leaving.

[AuroranHusker]

 

 

 

 

To me Fuller is the new David Rivers. He is the glue guy that every good team has.

Might not play for a month and then bang is in it up to his neck. I like the little things he does on the court, loose balls, rebound, set picks.

He seems to have a high Basketball IQ just not as physically gifted as we had hoped.

If he could find his 3 point stroke that he seemed to have in high school he would see the floor more.

 

I'm content that Nick Fuller is a Husker. A team is made up of all types of personalities and roles.  Not every player on the roster is going to be the 'go-to' guy on the squad. Fuller appears to enjoy being a part of the team in Lincoln, NE, and he's a great role player & practice performer from all accounts. Nothing wrong with that. 

 

 

On one hand, Miles had "the talk" with Benny and BP responded by contributing to our run to the NCAA tournament and becoming a valuable member of the rotation. On the other hand, if Fuller isn't going to play meaningful minutes ever we've locked up a schollie we could use on a JUCO big, another transfer, or something like that. Us playing zone this year will definitely help him to get on the floor and hide his slowness. Him actually shooting when he's out there certainly would help as well....after two years I can only speculate how good a guy with 8 3pt attempts is.

 

 

There's still an open schollie. Why does Nick have to 'open' up his?  He's a valuable member of the team, and he's clearly getting better as Nick was Lifter of the Year on the squad not long ago. It's too bad that he hasn't found a more defined role in which he could have contributed in a more meaningful way, but that's up to the coaches to put him in a position to contribute with his deficiency and all. Maybe NU should use that LAST schollie before we go with the notion that Nick's should be 'open' for some unknown *2nd* player. Just a thought...

 

Stronger =/= better. He doesn't have to open it up for the team's sake, but I think it would make a lot of sense for him to open it up for his sake. If he likes it here and is content in his role, more power to him, but he if want s to play and have a meaningful role on the court, I think he'll regret not leaving.

 

 

Who said stronger essentially equates to being better?!  I simply stated that Nick proved his work ethic in the weight room. He was awarded the LotY, which was won by Andrew White III this year. Does that mean AW-III isn't better, either? Strange comment to lead with, 'stu.

[Norm Peterson]

Dimes, you and I are not on the same page as far as what a threat is. In your way of looking at it, apparently, a threat is someone you intend to utilize in your offense for that specific skill. To me, a threat is simply something where the guy is good enough at it that you can't ignore him and you have to guard him. If Ty can get up near 30% from three, he will be a threat that the opposing team will have to guard. It takes me back to your earlier post where you were talking about any configuration where Tai is a threat from three would be a bad thing for us. I don't think he has to be a good shooter from distance in order for opposing teams to have to account for him on the perimeter. He only needs to be a threat. Benny has not been a threat. Tai can be.

It very well might be semantics but we might also disagree on what Tai should be doing on offense. To me a three point threat is a guy who is going to take a lot of 3pt shots or a guy who makes a high percentage at a lower rate. For instance, Brandon Ubel throwing up 20-25 shots a year at a 25% rate isn't a threat. David Rivers hitting 100% of his 3pt attempts last year (1) also doesn't make him a threat.

Let's look at Tai's shot selection over the last 2 years

His freshman year he took 77 2pt shots and 35 3pt shots and got to the FT line 84 times.

His sophomore year he took 57 2pt shots and 52 3pt shots and got to the FT line 38 times.

I have no distance data on the 2pt shots.

I think he will be successful with a 70% 2pt / 30% 3pt shot spread where he's drawing contact.

I think he will lose minutes and maybe get benched if he has a spread like his sophomore year.

I want him to take near the ratio of shots he took his freshmen year. This makes him a threat to drive to the basket.

Also Benny, in very limited action, brought his 3pt % up near 30% (29.3%) last year. How is he not a 3pt threat by your definition when he's accomplished what you want Tai to do? To me they're both guys you have to worry about stopping the drive first.

Benny shot a higher percent from beyond the arc last year than "Walter P for Me" so that might mean Benny was a threat, especially if you think Walt was.

[Norm Peterson]

Nick Fuller is a good kid and I hope he does well in life. When I saw Nick play at the scrimmage, other than not connecting on and open three pointer, I thought he looked like his Game head really come a long way. Nick's problem is not that he hasn't improved enough to contribute. Nick's problem is that, with our recruiting, our roster has improved enough that Nick isn't likely going to be able to find minutes even with his improvement. There are just so many good players in that part of the roster anymore. I feel bad for Nick because of it, but he chose to return and that will probably now mean that he will continue to ride the pine notwithstanding his improvement.

[49r]

Remember when we were so excited for all the great talent we were bringing in, namely Hawkins, Fuller and Hammond?

 

Seems like forever ago...

[AuroranHusker]

Remember when we were so excited for all the great talent we were bringing in, namely Hawkins, Fuller and Hammond?

 

Seems like forever ago...

 

I have no recollection of that.

[uneblinstu]

To me Fuller is the new David Rivers. He is the glue guy that every good team has.

Might not play for a month and then bang is in it up to his neck. I like the little things he does on the court, loose balls, rebound, set picks.

He seems to have a high Basketball IQ just not as physically gifted as we had hoped.

If he could find his 3 point stroke that he seemed to have in high school he would see the floor more.

 

I'm content that Nick Fuller is a Husker. A team is made up of all types of personalities and roles.  Not every player on the roster is going to be the 'go-to' guy on the squad. Fuller appears to enjoy being a part of the team in Lincoln, NE, and he's a great role player & practice performer from all accounts. Nothing wrong with that.

 

On one hand, Miles had "the talk" with Benny and BP responded by contributing to our run to the NCAA tournament and becoming a valuable member of the rotation. On the other hand, if Fuller isn't going to play meaningful minutes ever we've locked up a schollie we could use on a JUCO big, another transfer, or something like that. Us playing zone this year will definitely help him to get on the floor and hide his slowness. Him actually shooting when he's out there certainly would help as well....after two years I can only speculate how good a guy with 8 3pt attempts is.

 

There's still an open schollie. Why does Nick have to 'open' up his?  He's a valuable member of the team, and he's clearly getting better as Nick was Lifter of the Year on the squad not long ago. It's too bad that he hasn't found a more defined role in which he could have contributed in a more meaningful way, but that's up to the coaches to put him in a position to contribute with his deficiency and all. Maybe NU should use that LAST schollie before we go with the notion that Nick's should be 'open' for some unknown *2nd* player. Just a thought...

Stronger =/= better. He doesn't have to open it up for the team's sake, but I think it would make a lot of sense for him to open it up for his sake. If he likes it here and is content in his role, more power to him, but he if want s to play and have a meaningful role on the court, I think he'll regret not leaving.

 

Who said stronger essentially equates to being better?!  I simply stated that Nick proved his work ethic in the weight room. He was awarded the LotY, which was won by Andrew White III this year. Does that mean AW-III isn't better, either? Strange comment to lead with, 'stu.

I'm sorry, how was I supposed to interpret "and he's clearly getting better as Nick was Lifter of the Year on the squad not long ago"?

I don't mean to be antagonistic, really, I don't. I just don't see where there's value in it for him if playing is actually something he wants to do. I don't see where that's going to happen if he stays here.

[AuroranHusker]

 

 

 

 

 

 

To me Fuller is the new David Rivers. He is the glue guy that every good team has.

Might not play for a month and then bang is in it up to his neck. I like the little things he does on the court, loose balls, rebound, set picks.

He seems to have a high Basketball IQ just not as physically gifted as we had hoped.

If he could find his 3 point stroke that he seemed to have in high school he would see the floor more.

 

I'm content that Nick Fuller is a Husker. A team is made up of all types of personalities and roles.  Not every player on the roster is going to be the 'go-to' guy on the squad. Fuller appears to enjoy being a part of the team in Lincoln, NE, and he's a great role player & practice performer from all accounts. Nothing wrong with that.

 

 

On one hand, Miles had "the talk" with Benny and BP responded by contributing to our run to the NCAA tournament and becoming a valuable member of the rotation. On the other hand, if Fuller isn't going to play meaningful minutes ever we've locked up a schollie we could use on a JUCO big, another transfer, or something like that. Us playing zone this year will definitely help him to get on the floor and hide his slowness. Him actually shooting when he's out there certainly would help as well....after two years I can only speculate how good a guy with 8 3pt attempts is.

 

 

There's still an open schollie. Why does Nick have to 'open' up his?  He's a valuable member of the team, and he's clearly getting better as Nick was Lifter of the Year on the squad not long ago. It's too bad that he hasn't found a more defined role in which he could have contributed in a more meaningful way, but that's up to the coaches to put him in a position to contribute with his deficiency and all. Maybe NU should use that LAST schollie before we go with the notion that Nick's should be 'open' for some unknown *2nd* player. Just a thought...

 

Stronger =/= better. He doesn't have to open it up for the team's sake, but I think it would make a lot of sense for him to open it up for his sake. If he likes it here and is content in his role, more power to him, but he if want s to play and have a meaningful role on the court, I think he'll regret not leaving.

 

 

Who said stronger essentially equates to being better?!  I simply stated that Nick proved his work ethic in the weight room. He was awarded the LotY, which was won by Andrew White III this year. Does that mean AW-III isn't better, either? Strange comment to lead with, 'stu.

 

I'm sorry, how was I supposed to interpret "and he's clearly getting better as Nick was Lifter of the Year on the squad not long ago"?

I don't mean to be antagonistic, really, I don't. I just don't see where there's value in it for him if playing is actually something he wants to do. I don't see where that's going to happen if he stays here.

 

 

Sorry, didn't realize I had used the "clearly" before the thought of Nick being better by improving as a lifter. To that point, my attempt at defending Nick on the roster as a valuable member is merely trying to indicate that Nick isn't 'dead weight' and he deserves an opportunity to prove or disprove his role before we cast him aside too quickly; Just get tired of hearing that Nick's gotta go, Nick's gotta go, Nick's gotta go. And, it's probably a good thing we don't have any role in determining who plays, if Miles thinks Nick can help, he'll play. That's what matters, not what any of us think of his value. Certainly did not intend to be contentious about it. As a matter of pride in core "Nebraskan" qualities, I am passionate about guys who aren't the most athletic being given a fair shake whether they're 1st string, 2nd string or otherwise. Nick has some skills, hopefully we'll see him break out with a defined role for Nebrasketball real soon. GBR

[basketballjones]

I don't see the upside of having Fuller on the court over someone like Jack McVeigh, for example. I feel that Nick is going to have a hard time seeing substantial minutes this season if his shot isn't falling.

Don't disagree