Retweet from Washut - Being an Adidas School is recruiting disadvantage

[Nebrasketballer]

[hhcmatt]

Rick Pitino also notes 'our gene pool shrinks' by being a Kentucky school.

[TheKamdyMan]

Hes just mad a kid committed to him and was told not so fast my friend by his AAU coach thats nike sponsored it doesnt mean anything against the company of Adidas itself.  It sucks they have the influence on these kids.

[Swan88]

Here's a link to the Louisville Rivals article on the subject.  Here is a blurb from the article:

 

 "I don't like not being able to recruit a kid... because of shoe affiliation," Pitino said. "We need to get shoe companies out of their lives."  Pitino said he'd like to see more parental involvement and less involvement from AAU coaches or programs who are directly paid by shoe companies like Nike, Adidas and Under Armor.

[Norm Peterson]

adidas, under armour, whoever, need to step up their game when it comes to AAU basketball, and start competing with Nike or you might see more schools switching to Nike just to have a shot at recruits.

 

It's smart of adidas to sponsor the NBA, at least.  But air jordans have captured the desires of urban utes like no other shoe, apparently.

[hhcmatt]

Here's a link to the Louisville Rivals article on the subject.  Here is a blurb from the article:

 

 "I don't like not being able to recruit a kid... because of shoe affiliation," Pitino said. "We need to get shoe companies out of their lives."  Pitino said he'd like to see more parental involvement and less involvement from AAU coaches or programs who are directly paid by shoe companies like Nike, Adidas and Under Armor.

 

Pitino then ironically cashed his $1 mil/year check from Adidas. 

[Nebrasketballer]

[Swan88]

So, some of the recent schools we've lost recruits to are: (i) Elbert Robinson to LSU (Nike), (ii) Jordan Cornish to UNLV (Nike), (iii) Deng Deng to Baylor (Nike), (iv) Dusan Ristic to Arizona (Nike).

Coincidence?! . . . Or just sour grapes / convenient excuse?

[lanigan123]

Of course it can play a factor.

[TheKamdyMan]

So, some of the recent schools we've lost recruits to are: (i) Elbert Robinson to LSU (Nike), (ii) Jordan Cornish to UNLV (Nike), (iii) Deng Deng to Baylor (Nike), (iv) Dusan Ristic to Arizona (Nike).

Coincidence?! . . . Or just sour grapes / convenient excuse?

 

I dont think any of these guys were influenced.  None played in the Nike EYBL which is where most of the problems occur with recruits.

[49r]

So, some of the recent schools we've lost recruits to are: (i) Elbert Robinson to LSU (Nike), (ii) Jordan Cornish to UNLV (Nike), (iii) Deng Deng to Baylor (Nike), (iv) Dusan Ristic to Arizona (Nike).

Coincidence?! . . . Or just sour grapes / convenient excuse?

 

Who did we beat out for Glynn Watson?

Creighton - Nike

Purdue - Nike

Tennessee - Nike

Iowa - Nike

West Virginia - Nike

 

Who did we beat out for Ed Morrow?

Creighton - Nike

Iowa - Nike

Minnesota - Nike

Florida St - Nike

SMU - Nike

 

Who did we beat out for Andrew White III?

Maryland - Under Armour

Richmond - no sponsorship deal as far as I can tell but they wear Nike uniforms

Notre Dame - Adidas

Wake Forest - Nike

Miami - Nike

Florida St - Nike

 

It has more to do with coincidence than anything, seeing as how there are many more schools with shoe contracts with Nike than Adidas, we're going to lose out to/beat out mostly Nike schools.

 

FWIW, Baylor is an Adidas school for hoops:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Adidas_sponsorships#Colleges_and_Universities

[The Coach]

Recruits don't pick a school just based on shoe affiliation.....but they might eliminate a school based on shoe affiliation.

 

Adidas schools like Louisville and Kansas are still going to get top recruits because of their tradition.  But for schools like us that have no tradition, it gives recruits another reason to eliminate us from their list.

[49r]

Recruits don't pick a school just based on shoe affiliation.....but they might eliminate a school based on shoe affiliation.

 

Adidas schools like Louisville and Kansas are still going to get top recruits because of their tradition.  But for schools like us that have no tradition, it gives recruits another reason to eliminate us from their list.

 

Then we better get some tradition quick.

 

Because we ain't getting rid of Adidas anytime in the foreseeable future.

[doc1394]

We could be wearing crocs and still be hauling in studs with Tim

[a0t0w0]

We could be wearing crocs and still be hauling in studs with Tim

 

Let's really shake the world and bring out a deal with British Knights

[Huskerpapa]

To some...money and shoes matter.  Whatya goin to do?

[Nebrasketballer]

Recruits don't pick a school just based on shoe affiliation.....but they might eliminate a school based on shoe affiliation.

Adidas schools like Louisville and Kansas are still going to get top recruits because of their tradition. But for schools like us that have no tradition, it gives recruits another reason to eliminate us from their list.

Excerpt:

Jerry Meyer of 247Sports reported that Blakeney was under pressure from folks at Nike to at least look into other schools because the 6-foot-4 shooting guard plays for the Nike-affiliated AAU team Each One Teach One, and Louisville is one of adidas' flagship schools.

"I don't play up shoe company angle in basketball recruiting but decommitment of Antonio Blakeney from Louisville is shoe company related," Meyer tweeted. "Nike infrastructure [and] those part of [and] affiliated helped Antonio Blakeney get where he is. Considered rash to commit after visiting one school."

It's unclear which schools Blakeney will now visit, but it's a safe bet many of the programs originally involved in his recruitment will resurface as contenders. LSU, Missouri, Kentucky and Oregon — all Nike programs — are expected to be among the schools Blakeney considers.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/antonio-blakeney-s-commitment-to-louisville-proves-short-lived-124454903.html

[Cookie Belcher]

Meant to upvote your post nebrasketballer and accidentally hit the down one

[HB]

Meant to upvote your post nebrasketballer and accidentally hit the down one

Fixed it for you, Cookie

[Norm Peterson]

 

Meant to upvote your post nebrasketballer and accidentally hit the down one

Fixed it for you, Cookie

 

Second the motion.

[Concrete]

I don't know how/why some of you keep trying to deny this is a real factor. It's like taking a stance that the surface of the sun isn't hot- You're just backing a factually incorrect position. There is no opinion involved here.

[Swan88]

So, some of the recent schools we've lost recruits to are: (i) Elbert Robinson to LSU (Nike), (ii) Jordan Cornish to UNLV (Nike), (iii) Deng Deng to Baylor (Nike), (iv) Dusan Ristic to Arizona (Nike).

Coincidence?! . . . Or just sour grapes / convenient excuse?

Who did we beat out for Glynn Watson?

Creighton - Nike

Purdue - Nike

Tennessee - Nike

Iowa - Nike

West Virginia - Nike

Who did we beat out for Ed Morrow?

Creighton - Nike

Iowa - Nike

Minnesota - Nike

Florida St - Nike

SMU - Nike

Who did we beat out for Andrew White III?

Maryland - Under Armour

Richmond - no sponsorship deal as far as I can tell but they wear Nike uniforms

Notre Dame - Adidas

Wake Forest - Nike

Miami - Nike

Florida St - Nike

It has more to do with coincidence than anything, seeing as how there are many more schools with shoe contracts with Nike than Adidas, we're going to lose out to/beat out mostly Nike schools.

FWIW, Baylor is an Adidas school for hoops: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Adidas_sponsorships#Colleges_and_Universities

Wow! The prevalence of Nike on that list is overwhelming. And of the three or four non-Nike schools on the list (excluding Nebraska), two are there because of proximity to the recruit's home.

Having no personal knowledge about the issue, that list is the strongest argument I've ever seen in support of the proposition that shoe identification matters in recruiting . . . and matters a lot! And it shows the recruiting success of Tim Miles & Co. to be even more impressive than previously thought.

[TheKamdyMan]

I don't know how/why some of you keep trying to deny this is a real factor. It's like taking a stance that the surface of the sun isn't hot- You're just backing a factually incorrect position. There is no opinion involved here.

Yes it's a real factor for an extremely small percentage of players. The players that this affects is probably less than 5% in reality.

There are plenty of guys that were on Nike AAU teams that chose adidas and vica versa. Kansas, Indiana, UCLA, Louisville, Michigan before the Nike switch, etc all have tremendous basketball teams and were able to pull in talent. Many of which were stars in the Nike EYBL. Yes it will influence some but there's so much talent out there that it shouldn't make or break you otherwise you weren't that good to begin with.

One of Adidas' top NBA designers was at my daughters birthday party yesterday and asked him about this issue. He said he knows it happens and has dealt with the slimy AAU guys before. He said the only players at the end of the day it gets are the insecure ones that are letting people guide them instead of deciding for themselves. He said he recently spent a couple days with Andrew Wiggins. He was saying how so many people tried getting involved between coaches, agents, etc even in high school and how many were upset with his decision to choose Kansas after being a Nike AAU guy and Nike Canada representative. He said at the end of the day he knew no matter what that the decisions he himself made would be good enough and that if he played the way he knew could that he would be just fine.

Now will this factor in at nebraska? Maybe once in awhile but it shouldn't be often. Plus look at recent history and we will see that Glynn Watson (under armour), Ed Morrow (Nike) both highly ranked guys chose nebraska and should continue getting guys of that nature going forward as long as they win.

[ShortDust]

I don't know how/why some of you keep trying to deny this is a real factor. It's like taking a stance that the surface of the sun isn't hot- You're just backing a factually incorrect position. There is no opinion involved here.

Yes it's a real factor for an extremely small percentage of players. The players that this affects is probably less than 5% in reality.

There are plenty of guys that were on Nike AAU teams that chose adidas and vica versa. Kansas, Indiana, UCLA, Louisville, Michigan before the Nike switch, etc all have tremendous basketball teams and were able to pull in talent. Many of which were stars in the Nike EYBL. Yes it will influence some but there's so much talent out there that it shouldn't make or break you otherwise you weren't that good to begin with.

One of Adidas' top NBA designers was at my daughters birthday party yesterday and asked him about this issue. He said he knows it happens and has dealt with the slimy AAU guys before. He said the only players at the end of the day it gets are the insecure ones that are letting people guide them instead of deciding for themselves. He said he recently spent a couple days with Andrew Wiggins. He was saying how so many people tried getting involved between coaches, agents, etc even in high school and how many were upset with his decision to choose Kansas after being a Nike AAU guy and Nike Canada representative. He said at the end of the day he knew no matter what that the decisions he himself made would be good enough and that if he played the way he knew could that he would be just fine.

Now will this factor in at nebraska? Maybe once in awhile but it shouldn't be often. Plus look at recent history and we will see that Glynn Watson (under armour), Ed Morrow (Nike) both highly ranked guys chose nebraska and should continue getting guys of that nature going forward as long as they win.

Always love your insight! Awesome post kamdy

[Huskerpapa]

 

I don't know how/why some of you keep trying to deny this is a real factor. It's like taking a stance that the surface of the sun isn't hot- You're just backing a factually incorrect position. There is no opinion involved here.

Yes it's a real factor for an extremely small percentage of players. The players that this affects is probably less than 5% in reality.

There are plenty of guys that were on Nike AAU teams that chose adidas and vica versa. Kansas, Indiana, UCLA, Louisville, Michigan before the Nike switch, etc all have tremendous basketball teams and were able to pull in talent. Many of which were stars in the Nike EYBL. Yes it will influence some but there's so much talent out there that it shouldn't make or break you otherwise you weren't that good to begin with.

One of Adidas' top NBA designers was at my daughters birthday party yesterday and asked him about this issue. He said he knows it happens and has dealt with the slimy AAU guys before. He said the only players at the end of the day it gets are the insecure ones that are letting people guide them instead of deciding for themselves. He said he recently spent a couple days with Andrew Wiggins. He was saying how so many people tried getting involved between coaches, agents, etc even in high school and how many were upset with his decision to choose Kansas after being a Nike AAU guy and Nike Canada representative. He said at the end of the day he knew no matter what that the decisions he himself made would be good enough and that if he played the way he knew could that he would be just fine.

Now will this factor in at nebraska? Maybe once in awhile but it shouldn't be often. Plus look at recent history and we will see that Glynn Watson (under armour), Ed Morrow (Nike) both highly ranked guys chose nebraska and should continue getting guys of that nature going forward as long as they win.

 

Thank you for your insight...This kind of says it all:

 

"...He said the only players at the end of the day it gets are the insecure ones that are letting people guide them instead of deciding for themselves..."