So when is the last possible day to add a big for 2013?

[Nebrasketballer]

Unmoved by Miles recruiting, but will not take the gloves off on him.  Next season I expect higher quality recruiting.

 

On the other hand I am disapppointed in his ability to recruit and keep ast coaches.  Everyone though Chin was going to be the man when it came to recruiting, then he landed an on-campus position but couldn't  stick around for the first practice before he leaves for a mid-major ast job.  Then Johnson leaves for Minny after he supposelduy made some sort of a three-year pledge.

 

Some march out the closer-to-home or alma-mater argument.  But it doesn't hold water.  As someone pointed out earlier during the spring recruiting process, every player has a home town.  Its not an acceptable excuse for not signning a player.  The same applies to ast coaches and alma maters.

 

If Miles can't seal the deal on coaches it isn't reasonable to expect him to seal the deal with recruits.

You've basically posted this same thing in the past...

 

http://board.huskerhoopscentral.com/topic/2278-schnapps-expatriats/?p=28830

 

"Some march out the closer-to-home or alma-mater argument. But it doesn't hold water. As someone pointed out earlier during the spring recruiting process, every player has a home town. Its not an acceptable excuse for not signning a player. The same applies to ast coaches and alma maters."

 

Wrong.

I'm not sure if you are serious about this or not, but... I really don't know how you could be.  It happens all of the time all around the country.  For one thing, it is nowhere near the same thing to compare an athlete going to college for a few years to a coach making decisions about their career (which generally treated like as lifelong, or at least longterm, decision and often involves impact on family and kids). 

 

Are you telling me that you would be shocked if Scott Frost left Oregon if a job was available for him at Nebraska?  It would be the same thing.

 

Roy Williams had a pretty sweet deal at Kansas, but decided to leave one of the winningest programs of all time where McDonalds All-Americans are lining up to have a chance to play, because Kansas is a legit NCAA title contender on an annual basis.  He left Kansas to go where?  North Carolina.  Why? Because that's where he grew up and that's where he played in college...  Which is pretty much the exact thing you were talking about when you said : "Some march out the closer-to-home or alma-mater argument. But it doesn't hold water."  It does hold water.  Don't be ridiculous.

 

 

"If Miles can't seal the deal on coaches it isn't reasonable to expect him to seal the deal with recruits."

 

Wrong.

It only took Miles a few months to assemble the best recruiting class that Nebraska has signed in over a decade.

[Nebrasketballer]

Unmoved by Miles recruiting, but will not take the gloves off on him.  Next season I expect higher quality recruiting.

 

On the other hand I am disapppointed in his ability to recruit and keep ast coaches.  Everyone though Chin was going to be the man when it came to recruiting, then he landed an on-campus position but couldn't  stick around for the first practice before he leaves for a mid-major ast job.  Then Johnson leaves for Minny after he supposelduy made some sort of a three-year pledge.

 

Some march out the closer-to-home or alma-mater argument.  But it doesn't hold water.  As someone pointed out earlier during the spring recruiting process, every player has a home town.  Its not an acceptable excuse for not signning a player.  The same applies to ast coaches and alma maters.

 

If Miles can't seal the deal on coaches it isn't reasonable to expect him to seal the deal with recruits.

It's warm outside, so why are you wearing gloves in the first place?  And why are you on him?...

 

Or are you saying that you will not take his gloves off of him?  And if so, why would you take someone else's gloves off of them? 

[The Polish Rifle]

Unmoved by Miles recruiting, but will not take the gloves off on him.  Next season I expect higher quality recruiting.

 

On the other hand I am disapppointed in his ability to recruit and keep ast coaches.  Everyone though Chin was going to be the man when it came to recruiting, then he landed an on-campus position but couldn't  stick around for the first practice before he leaves for a mid-major ast job.  Then Johnson leaves for Minny after he supposelduy made some sort of a three-year pledge.

 

Some march out the closer-to-home or alma-mater argument.  But it doesn't hold water.  As someone pointed out earlier during the spring recruiting process, every player has a home town.  Its not an acceptable excuse for not signning a player.  The same applies to ast coaches and alma maters.

 

If Miles can't seal the deal on coaches it isn't reasonable to expect him to seal the deal with recruits.

Seriously???? Pat Fitzgerald wont leave NW ever, he's probably been offered a handful of better jobs. Bob Huggins returning home to WV. It happens all the time,

[Silverbacked1]

 

Unmoved by Miles recruiting, but will not take the gloves off on him.  Next season I expect higher quality recruiting.

 

 

Unmoved by your posts.  Next season I expect higher quality posting.

 

I think I wet myself because I am laughing so hard at your answer. 

 

Best one in a very long time.

[The Polish Rifle]

 

Unmoved by Miles recruiting, but will not take the gloves off on him.  Next season I expect higher quality recruiting.

 

On the other hand I am disapppointed in his ability to recruit and keep ast coaches.  Everyone though Chin was going to be the man when it came to recruiting, then he landed an on-campus position but couldn't  stick around for the first practice before he leaves for a mid-major ast job.  Then Johnson leaves for Minny after he supposelduy made some sort of a three-year pledge.

 

Some march out the closer-to-home or alma-mater argument.  But it doesn't hold water.  As someone pointed out earlier during the spring recruiting process, every player has a home town.  Its not an acceptable excuse for not signning a player.  The same applies to ast coaches and alma maters.

 

If Miles can't seal the deal on coaches it isn't reasonable to expect him to seal the deal with recruits.

It's warm outside, so why are you wearing gloves in the first place?  And why are you on him?...

 

Or are you saying that you will not take his gloves off of him?  And if so, why would you take someone else's gloves off of them? 

 

we gotta stop feeding this troll man.

[FredsSlacks]

Miles needs to find someone to fill this last scholarship, even if it is for one year. I am going to be upset if Menke is on scholarship for a second straight year when those 2 years wasted on Menke could have been given to a juco guy for 2 years.

 

I'm not worried about the assistant position at all. Miles has coached all over the midwest. He knows plenty of people and will pick the right guy.

 

I am a bit concerned about why we haven't filled chin's position. Bringing in another AAU guy wouldn't hurt.

[uneblinstu]

Miles needs to find someone to fill this last scholarship, even if it is for one year. I am going to be upset if Menke is on scholarship for a second straight year when those 2 years wasted on Menke could have been given to a juco guy for 2 years.

Why?

[MandRHusker]

 

Miles needs to find someone to fill this last scholarship, even if it is for one year. I am going to be upset if Menke is on scholarship for a second straight year when those 2 years wasted on Menke could have been given to a juco guy for 2 years.

Why?

 

I'm not convinced we need to fill the spot to see real improvement next year. Yes, it would be nice to find another quality big man, but not necessary in my mind.

[FredsSlacks]

 

Miles needs to find someone to fill this last scholarship, even if it is for one year. I am going to be upset if Menke is on scholarship for a second straight year when those 2 years wasted on Menke could have been given to a juco guy for 2 years.

Why?

 

our 3 bigs are going to have a combined 5 min of d1 experience.

[uneblinstu]

 

 

Miles needs to find someone to fill this last scholarship, even if it is for one year. I am going to be upset if Menke is on scholarship for a second straight year when those 2 years wasted on Menke could have been given to a juco guy for 2 years.

Why?

 

our 3 bigs are going to have a combined 5 min of d1 experience.

 

That doesn't mean you have to take a guy though.  You only take him if he can help the program.  You get in trouble when you start handing out 'ships just to have them all filled.  I'd rather reward a guy like Peltz or Tyrance or Menke  for a year than take a guy  just because you still have an open scholarship.  these are valuable commodities, can't be casual with them.

[hhcmatt]

 

 

Miles needs to find someone to fill this last scholarship, even if it is for one year. I am going to be upset if Menke is on scholarship for a second straight year when those 2 years wasted on Menke could have been given to a juco guy for 2 years.

Why?

 

our 3 bigs are going to have a combined 5 min of d1 experience.

 

 

You're only off by 377 minutes unless you aren't counting Leslee Smith for some reason.  He played at SMU his freshman year.

[Nebrasketballer]

 

 

Miles needs to find someone to fill this last scholarship, even if it is for one year. I am going to be upset if Menke is on scholarship for a second straight year when those 2 years wasted on Menke could have been given to a juco guy for 2 years.

Why?

 

our 3 bigs are going to have a combined 5 min of d1 experience.

 

I get what you are saying, but just because Pitchford didn't play much as a true freshman at Florida when they finished the SEC regular season with a 10–6 conference record, and lost to Kentucky in the semifinals of the SEC Tournament, when they received an at-large bid in the NCAA Tournament as a No. 7 seed in west region where they advanced to the Elite Eight before losing to Louisville, doesn't mean that he won't be a stud.  There are alot of very quality post players that wouldn't not have gotten alot of playing time in that situation.  Alot of talented players don't get playing time as true freshman on an Elite Eight caliber basketball team.  I have heard multiple reputable sources, that after seeing him practice, say he has legit NBA athleticism and will end up in the NBA when he is done at Nebraska.

 

Just because a player doesn't have a bunch of D1 experience, doesn't mean they can't be a legit player.  Look at Andrew Wiggins (along with all of the other 1 and done players each season).  Wiggins has 0 minutes of D1 experience, but I have a feeling that he will do alright.  I'm not saying that Pitchford is as talented as Andrew Wiggins.  I'm just illustrating that it's not as simple as looking at how many minutes of D1 experience a player has racked up when projecting the amount of success they will have in the future. 

 

Remember...

Fuller, Hawkins, and Webster are Fr

Pitchford, Petteway, and Shields are So

Biggs, Rivers, and Smith are Jr

 

These guys will all likely see playing time already this season and have plenty of time to rack up D1 playing time together

[FredsSlacks]

here's what worries me:

 

Pitchford- probably a 4 with the skills of a 3, and we may ask him to be our starting center.

 

Sergej- Miles was afraid to play him in blowouts of a lost season.

 

Smith- Most likely a solid bench player with limited potential, injury concerns, and conditioning concerns. (only played 20 min a game in juco)

[Nebrasketballer]

here's what worries me:

 

Pitchford- probably a 4 with the skills of a 3, and we may ask him to be our starting center.

 

Sergej- Miles was afraid to play him in blowouts of a lost season.

 

Smith- Most likely a solid bench player with limited potential, injury concerns, and conditioning concerns. (only played 20 min a game in juco)

I wouldn't be shocked if Pitchford did have to play Center next season, but if that is the case, then I think it is very likely that he will be 6'10', 250+ lbs by the start of next season.  He was listed at 6'10", 230 lbs this season, so 250 lbs isn't too much of a stretch. 

 

I think though that since Vucetic is staying on the roster, Miles and his staff will do everything in their power do develop his strength and have him gaining weight.  I would be surprised if the plan wasn't to have Vucetic at 250+ by the start of next season.  If Vecetic can get up to 250+ lbs by next season, along with developing strength and conditioning, then I think he will play, which would allow Pitchford to start at the 4-Spot. 

 

Then Nebraska would be able to bring Smith and Rivers off of the bench to split time in the post.  I expect that Smith (currently listed at 6'8", 250 lbs) will be somewhere around 6'8", 250-260 lbs next season.  I would expect that Rivers (currently listed at 6'7", 190 lbs) will be somewhere around 6'7", 210-215 lbs next season.

 

That is a group of post players that I think Miles will be able to work with, especially considering the length that will be added at the 2-Spot and 3-Spot on the floor, which wasn't available this season:

 

Peteway (6'6"), Fuller (6'7"), Hawkins (6'5")

 

Not to mention that Pitchford will be more skilled than most players at the 4 or 5 spots that will be guarding him, so he should be able to use that athleticism to his advantage.  Maybe pull them out away from the basket to open up the lane, so he (and the other players on the floor) have more room to get to the rim.

 

Is the roster situation that Nebraska is in right now ideal? No.  But I would argue that it is much better than it was last season, which means that we have all seen Miles do some pretty good things with less.  Miles and the staff will have to get by with what they have next season and work overtime on guys like Myles Turner and Zylan Cheatham in the 2014 class.

 

I'm just as impatient as anyone.  I want Nebraska to win an NCAA tournament game next season.  Maybe that will happen.  Maybe it won't.  Generally speaking, these things don't happen in only one season.  But Miles has successfully turned around multiple bottom feeders with considerably less resources than he has now at Nebraska.  He has never been able to recruit to the best facilities in the country, in the best conference in the country, with a brand new arena that is sold out, all while being able to offer early playing time to a high caliber Center.  He can offer all of that now.  It's just up to us to be patient and allow him to do that.  This isn't his first rodeo... 

[ajb5856]

here's what worries me:

Pitchford- probably a 4 with the skills of a 3, and we may ask him to be our starting center.

Sergej- Miles was afraid to play him in blowouts of a lost season.

Smith- Most likely a solid bench player with limited potential, injury concerns, and conditioning concerns. (only played 20 min a game in juco)

I wouldn't be shocked if Pitchford did have to play Center next season, but if that is the case, then I think it is very likely that he will be 6'10', 250+ lbs by the start of next season. He was listed at 6'10", 230 lbs this season, so 250 lbs isn't too much of a stretch.

I think though that since Vucetic is staying on the roster, Miles and his staff will do everything in their power do develop his strength and have him gaining weight. I would be surprised if the plan wasn't to have Vucetic at 250+ by the start of next season. If Vecetic can get up to 250+ lbs by next season, along with developing strength and conditioning, then I think he will play, which would allow Pitchford to start at the 4-Spot.

Then Nebraska would be able to bring Smith and Rivers off of the bench to split time in the post. I expect that Smith (currently listed at 6'8", 250 lbs) will be somewhere around 6'8", 250-260 lbs next season. I would expect that Rivers (currently listed at 6'7", 190 lbs) will be somewhere around 6'7", 210-215 lbs next season.

That is a group of post players that I think Miles will be able to work with, especially considering the length that will be added at the 2-Spot and 3-Spot on the floor, which wasn't available this season:

Peteway (6'6"), Fuller (6'7"), Hawkins (6'5")

Not to mention that Pitchford will be more skilled than most players at the 4 or 5 spots that will be guarding him, so he should be able to use that athleticism to his advantage. Maybe pull them out away from the basket to open up the lane, so he (and the other players on the floor) have more room to get to the rim.

Is the roster situation that Nebraska is in right now ideal? No. But I would argue that it is much better than it was last season, which means that we have all seen Miles do some pretty good things with less. Miles and the staff will have to get by with what they have next season and work overtime on guys like Myles Turner and Zylan Cheatham in the 2014 class.

I'm just as impatient as anyone. I want Nebraska to win an NCAA tournament game next season. Maybe that will happen. Maybe it won't. Generally speaking, these things don't happen in only one season. But Miles has successfully turned around multiple bottom feeders with considerably less resources than he has now at Nebraska. He has never been able to recruit to the best facilities in the country, in the best conference in the country, with a brand new arena that is sold out, all while being able to offer early playing time to a high caliber Center. He can offer all of that now. It's just up to us to be patient and allow him to do that. This isn't his first rodeo...

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[49r]

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[Creighton Fan]

It only took Miles a few months to assemble the best recruiting class that Nebraska has signed in over a decade.

 

 

Is this class really Nebraska's best recruiting class in over a decade?

[Nebrasketballer]

 

It only took Miles a few months to assemble the best recruiting class that Nebraska has signed in over a decade.

 

 

Is this class really Nebraska's best recruiting class in over a decade?

 

Yes

[FredsSlacks]

 

 

It only took Miles a few months to assemble the best recruiting class that Nebraska has signed in over a decade.

 

 

Is this class really Nebraska's best recruiting class in over a decade?

 

Yes

 

Fuller and Webster could be really good, but the lack of a true big man might be what keeps this class from being one of the best. Smith will be a big that fills a need, but I don't expect him to put up big numbers at all. Hawkins is a mystery right now as well. Hawkins played power forward on his high school team last year, so it is hard to tell how good of a guard he is going to be.

[Nebrasketballer]

 

It only took Miles a few months to assemble the best recruiting class that Nebraska has signed in over a decade.

 

 

Is this class really Nebraska's best recruiting class in over a decade?

 

Tai Webster: Ranked #32 at his position

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/169923/tai-webster

 

“This is a definite coup for the Huskers,” ESPN college basketball analyst Fran Fraschilla said in a phone interview with the Journal Star.

 

Fraschilla said he watched tapes of all of Webster’s Olympic qualifying games, and has kept tabs on Webster through friends in New Zealand.

 

If Webster was playing in the Unites States, Fraschilla said, he’d be a Top 25 recruit.

 

“I’d be shocked if there were 25 better 17-year-old players in the States than this kid,” Fraschilla said.

 

Webster is believed to be the youngest player to ever make the New Zealand national team. He averaged 13.5 points in Olympic qualifying play while shooting 52.5 percent from the field, including 62.5 percent from three-point range.

 

Webster’s club team, the Auckland Pirates, advanced to the Under-19 New Zealand National League championship final, a game in which Webster scored 42 points.

 

“I mean, you’re talking about some really great teams. Some high-level, NBA types, European professional players,” Fraschilla said. “The young man acquitted himself well. Really well.”

 

Fraschilla described Webster as a strong, powerful guard who’s able to get to the rim.

 

“He’s a throwback in that he’s not a point or a two, he’s a guard,” Fraschilla said. “He can score, he can drive, he’s strong, he can make the three, pass it. He’s a 6-2 guard that’s multi-skilled. He’s a skilled player. He’s not just an athlete.”

 

 

Nick Fuller: Ranked #21 at his position

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/104934/nick-fuller

 

 

Brian Snow (Scout's national basketball recruiting analyst) in an article "Five who could surprise" :

 

 

"The native of Wisconsin is someone who can really shoot the ball on the wing, but he also has the ability to take his man to the rim off the drive."

 

"Fuller has more athleticism than most give him credit for and is just an extremely tough kid. Also he has done battle against many of the top wings in the country, and usually has held his own. He could definitely be one of those under the radar type players who has a very good career and helps Nebraska make strides within the Big Ten."

 

 

Nathan Hawkins: Ranked #58 at his position

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/169665/nathan-hawkins

 

 

 

Leslee Smith: 6'8", 250 lbs, PF, Transfer with 1 year of D1 Experience 

[Nebrasketballer]

 

 

 

It only took Miles a few months to assemble the best recruiting class that Nebraska has signed in over a decade.

 

 

Is this class really Nebraska's best recruiting class in over a decade?

 

Yes

 

Fuller and Webster could be really good, but the lack of a true big man might be what keeps this class from being one of the best. Smith will be a big that fills a need, but I don't expect him to put up big numbers at all. Hawkins is a mystery right now as well. Hawkins played power forward on his high school team last year, so it is hard to tell how good of a guard he is going to be.

 

Which Nebraska basketball class in the last decade has been better?  Which class in the last decade has had 2 players ranked in the top 35 at their position?  Which class in the last decade has had 3 players ranked in the top 60 at their position?

[kldm64]

 

 

 

It only took Miles a few months to assemble the best recruiting class that Nebraska has signed in over a decade.

 

 

Is this class really Nebraska's best recruiting class in over a decade?

 

Yes

 

Fuller and Webster could be really good, but the lack of a true big man might be what keeps this class from being one of the best. Smith will be a big that fills a need, but I don't expect him to put up big numbers at all. Hawkins is a mystery right now as well. Hawkins played power forward on his high school team last year, so it is hard to tell how good of a guard he is going to be.

 

 

Seriously???  This isn't old school basketball anymore where you have to have a true center or big man.  Lots of great teams play with just 6' 7" to 6' 9" players due to their skill level.  Not saying it's not nice to have a 6' 10" or taller post player but it's not necessary with style of play lots of teams choose to run.  I'd rather have very athletic wing players as opposed to a big man.  Athletic talent can make up for the lack of a couple of inches in height.  I think this was a very solid effort from Miles and Company for their first recruiting class in the short time frame they have been here.  He is now building relationship for the next couple of classes and he going after players our previous two coaches wouldn't even consider trying to get. The lack of a big man doesn't diminish the quality kids he was able to sign.

[Norm Peterson]

Unmoved by Miles recruiting, but will not take the gloves off on him.  Next season I expect higher quality recruiting.

 

On the other hand I am disapppointed in his ability to recruit and keep ast coaches.  Everyone though Chin was going to be the man when it came to recruiting, then he landed an on-campus position but couldn't  stick around for the first practice before he leaves for a mid-major ast job.  Then Johnson leaves for Minny after he supposelduy made some sort of a three-year pledge.

 

Some march out the closer-to-home or alma-mater argument.  But it doesn't hold water.  As someone pointed out earlier during the spring recruiting process, every player has a home town.  Its not an acceptable excuse for not signning a player.  The same applies to ast coaches and alma maters.

 

If Miles can't seal the deal on coaches it isn't reasonable to expect him to seal the deal with recruits.

Sooooo ... do you and KearneyMan share the same computer?