Emotion vs Intensity

[Navin R. Johnson]

I have been a little surprised at the comments about Brice Williams needing to show more emotion on the court.  I find it enjoyable watching a kid just play and not show the emotion that some athletes feel they have to show.  Tominaga is one that comes to mind.  No doubt he is fun to watch but his antics are starting to get old to this old school basketball fan.  I don't need to see a gesture from him every time he makes a shot.  I know he plays on emotion but I like it when guys act like they were suppose to make that shot, basically act like you have been there before.  I think KT right now is trying to do to much and just needs to let the game come to him. Please don't take this as complaining because I do like to watch KT play, just a minor concern from a long time fan.  As for guys like Williams and Lawrence, don't change a thing.  I guess variety is the spice of life and the challenge of being a coach is to blend the different personalities together into a cohesive unit.

Edited November 17, 2023 by Navin R. Johnson

[millerhusker]

20 minutes ago, Navin R. Johnson said:

I have been a little surprised at the comments about Brice Williams needing to show more emotion on the court.  I find it enjoyable watching a kid just play and not show the emotion that some athletes feel they have to show.  Tominaga is one that comes to mind.  No doubt he is fun to watch but his antics are starting to get old to this old school basketball fan.  I don't need to see a jester from him everytime he makes a shot.  I know he plays on emotion but I like it when guys act like they were suppose to make that shot, basically act like you have been there before.  I think KT right now is trying to do to much and just needs to let the game come to him. Please don't take this as complaining because I do like to watch KT play, just a minor concern from a long time fan.  As for guys like Williams and Lawrence, don't change a thing.  I guess variety is the spice of life and the challenge of being a coach is to blend the different personalities together into a cohesive unit.

Could be wrong, but I don't think that's what anyone is talking about. I don't want Brice to show more emotion. The even keeled nature of Griesel and Walker were ideal imo, especially for a player's coach who isn't real strict about reigning personalities in on the court. Brice could definitely be more "violent" with his movement, though. Again last night he watched a ball bounce and waited for it to come to him rather than just grabbing it with authority. He sometimes moves without purpose when the ball isn't in his hands. This is nitpicking, but there's nothing wrong with pointing it out. I sure hope the coaches are on film, because these are fixable things. Brice is very talented and smooth on the court. He just needs to be more "solid" and disciplined at all times. Overall he's a big net positive for us. 

[Norm Peterson]

I think Brice Williams is this team's version of Jorge Brian Diaz. Except he dunks.

[hugh42]

1 hour ago, Navin R. Johnson said:

I have been a little surprised at the comments about Brice Williams needing to show more emotion on the court.  I find it enjoyable watching a kid just play and not show the emotion that some athletes feel they have to show.  Tominaga is one that comes to mind.  No doubt he is fun to watch but his antics are starting to get old to this old school basketball fan.  I don't need to see a jester from him everytime he makes a shot.  I know he plays on emotion but I like it when guys act like they were suppose to make that shot, basically act like you have been there before.  I think KT right now is trying to do to much and just needs to let the game come to him. Please don't take this as complaining because I do like to watch KT play, just a minor concern from a long time fan.  As for guys like Williams and Lawrence, don't change a thing.  I guess variety is the spice of life and the challenge of being a coach is to blend the different personalities together into a cohesive unit.

 

I like what I've seen so far from the new guys and the way they handle themselves on the court. Very businesslike but there is some fire there as well. The entire team appears to be that way which I like. Regarding KT, I don't care for the antics either but it is a part of the game right now unfortunately. Heck, I recall Walker flexing on a few occasions last season and even Griesel did the 'too small' sign after a make. No need for that IMO.

Edited November 16, 2023 by hugh42

[Huskerpapa]

Hard to change a kids personality.   Keisei is adored by the fans.  I believe he brings those that are somewhat passive at games, to their feet.  I also believe that the coaching staff either pushes or supports Keisei's reactions.  I have no issues with any of the players emotions so far this year.  Although, Boogie never likes to come out of games...and that can be okay IF he doesn't show up his coach AND he supports his teammates.

 

[hugh42]

20 minutes ago, Huskerpapa said:

Hard to change a kids personality.   Keisei is adored by the fans.  I believe he brings those that are somewhat passive at games, to their feet.  I also believe that the coaching staff either pushes or supports Keisei's reactions.  I have no issues with any of the players emotions so far this year.  Although, Boogie never likes to come out of games...and that can be okay IF he doesn't show up his coach AND he supports his teammates.

 

 

KT certainly plays with a lot of emotion and no one is saying that he should dial that back, but I have heard Fred say that he hates the gestures that players make in the game today (i.e. - flexing, too small, shooting arrows, etc.). Love the passion, not the showmanship.

[AuroranHusker]

Variety is the spice of life, that is true. Nebraska appreciates hard work and consistent effort first and foremost. Defense and rebounding are paramount. Offense when it's rolling can be a place to express some personality, so to speak. It's okay to show a little emotion on the court, it can release some stress or pent-up frustration, at times.

 

[hskr4life]

There’s also a time and place for that emotion and gesturing.  In the past, we’ve been doing all of the things when we were losing to KenPom 300 teams or down 20.

 

We haven’t encountered that yet, but we will at some point.  Emotion is good and gets the crowd going, but knowing when to use it is key.

[Vinny]

1 hour ago, Norm Peterson said:

I think Brice Williams is this team's version of Jorge Brian Diaz. Except he dunks.

His smooth, almost deliberate style of play reminds me a bit of Bear Jones. Though he brings more to the table in terms of attacking with the ball in his hands.

[jimmykc]

I don't care whether a player looks stoic or overexuberant as long as he hustles, performs up to his natural ability, and is a good teammate. Demeanor is irrelevant when compared with on-court results. Appearing to have too much disinterest or too much pizzazz Is often in the eye of the beholder.  

[AuroranHusker]

 

 

It's for the audience, it seems fine. Now I doubt Keisei is doing this when it's a one-point game in the final minute...

 

 

 

[TourneyBound]

I questioned his emotions a bit but that was just because I was wondering if he wasn't getting along with other players or what exactly was the deal.  I'm realizing now that thats just how he is and there is definitely nothing wrong with that I was just worried about the teams cohesiveness.

[Navin R. Johnson]

26 minutes ago, AuroranHusker said:

 

 

It's for the audience, it seems fine. Now I doubt Keisei is doing this when it's a one-point game in the final minute...

 

 

 

 

You mean like Lat did a couple years ago after a dunk and did not run back on D? I was yelling at my TV to "get back"

[hskr4life]

Just now, Navin R. Johnson said:

 

You mean like Lat did a couple years ago after a dunk and did not run back on D? I was yelling at my TV to "get back"

I don’t remember if it was a flex or an arrow or what, but I do remember we were losing… heavily… one time when that crap was going on.

[Navin R. Johnson]

2 hours ago, hskr4life said:

I don’t remember if it was a flex or an arrow or what, but I do remember we were losing… heavily… one time when that crap was going on.

 

I think we were playing Ohio State and we were up late in a close game.

Edited November 16, 2023 by Navin R. Johnson

[AuroranHusker]

16 minutes ago, Navin R. Johnson said:

 

You mean like Lat did a couple years ago after a dunk and did not run back on D? I was yelling at my TV to "get back"

 

Exactly. That was against Ohio St. as I recall. Ughh, that was brutal.

 

[Norm Peterson]

2 hours ago, Vinny said:

His smooth, almost deliberate style of play reminds me a bit of Bear Jones. Though he brings more to the table in terms of attacking with the ball in his hands.

 

Not talking about his skillset.

 

People used to complain about Jorge Brian Diaz's body language and demeanor. Like he was too passive and had too flat of an affect, like he had no enthusiasm for what he was doing or something. And he would almost always do a layup when he could have had a dunk. And so people would get on him and say that it didn't look like he cared. Just going through the motions.

 

And that seems to be what people are saying about Brice as well. He doesn't have an animated personality and it just reminds me of what people said about Jorge.

[roscoe]

The group I went with last night were discussing KT's gestures on the way home. Our main concern was a ref deciding to give him a technical at a key moment. He also seems to be begging for calls at times.

[Norm Peterson]

8 minutes ago, roscoe said:

The group I went with last night were discussing KT's gestures on the way home. Our main concern was a ref deciding to give him a technical at a key moment. He also seems to be begging for calls at times.

 

Yeah, he spends too much time complaining about not drawing fouls when he gets the ball stripped. When he turned his ankle, he seemed like he was almost more pissed that there was no call than that he got hurt.

[Huskerpapa]

2 hours ago, roscoe said:

The group I went with last night were discussing KT's gestures on the way home. Our main concern was a ref deciding to give him a technical at a key moment. He also seems to be begging for calls at times.

Yet he seems to get along with the referee's.  He chats with them coming out of time outs and so forth. 

Heck if I was Keisei, and I was angry, I would simply speak Japanese and the refs would have no clue if I was angry.

[hskr4life]

10 minutes ago, Huskerpapa said:

Yet he seems to get along with the referee's.  He chats with them coming out of time outs and so forth. 

Heck if I was Keisei, and I was angry, I would simply speak Japanese and the refs would have no clue if I was angry.

With our luck, he’d get ejected in a big game by Kelly Pfiefer and we’d find out later Kelly took Japanese in college.

[KZRider]

Don't care too much one way or the other about anitics. They are only young once and ought to be able to howl at the moon sometimes. I kind of like it when KT hits a big 3 just before a clock stoppage and goes down to run into the other goal pads. IN GAME control is very different. Example, at one point in the OSU game, KT must have been abused by an OSU player but no call was made while he was on D. On the ensuing offensive position, he mixed it up with an OSU player, pushed him and got called for a foul. He can't do to that in a tight game. The exact opposite vs OSU was Mast. He was getting pushed around, elbowed and otherwise brutalized all game long. Mast got even by making good plays. He got the rebound, boxed a guy out so another player could get to the basket, made a pass or busted a move on O and scored a basket. Mast may holler with everyone else off the court but while the clock is running he is an intense player doing a great job! Glad he is on our side. Our other guys need to take him as their role model.

Edited November 20, 2023 by KZRider

[Dead Dog Alley]

On 11/16/2023 at 10:51 PM, hskr4life said:

With our luck, he’d get ejected in a big game by Kelly Pfiefer and we’d find out later Kelly took Japanese in college.

 

I'm thinking the only class Kelly passed in college was Screw Nebraska 101

[hskr4life]

3 minutes ago, Dead Dog Alley said:

 

I'm thinking the only class Kelly passed in college was Screw Nebraska 101

Not just passed... Aced.

[rwhiston]

On 11/16/2023 at 4:09 PM, Norm Peterson said:

 

Not talking about his skillset.

 

People used to complain about Jorge Brian Diaz's body language and demeanor. Like he was too passive and had too flat of an affect, like he had no enthusiasm for what he was doing or something. And he would almost always do a layup when he could have had a dunk. And so people would get on him and say that it didn't look like he cared. Just going through the motions.

 

And that seems to be what people are saying about Brice as well. He doesn't have an animated personality and it just reminds me of what people said about Jorge.

My big beef with Diaz was not just his emotions in his own game but also how he responded to his teammates and coaches. He made a lot of mistakes and anytime someone on the team called him out he just had this whatever look on his face. Isaac Copeland wasn't the most emotional guy but you could also tell it mattered to him.  I'll judge Williams when the going gets tough.