uneblinstu's postgame chatter: vol 15, ed 3: @ St. John's

[uneblinstu]

They can win with what we saw from them in the first half. They'll lose a lot with what we saw in the second.

[HuskerFever]

[Huskerpapa]

Simple, we forgot that college basketball plays two halves.

Our ball handling was bad.

[hskr4life]

3 minutes ago, uneblinstu said:

They can win with what we saw from them in the first half. They'll lose a lot with what we saw in the second.

Honestly, I don’t know about this.  We can thank St Johns as much for our first half as we can thank ourselves.

[basketballjones]

I waaaaay behind on the game.

 

In my timeline we just played the toughest, hardest, competitive version of basketball I’ve seen in the Hoiberg era.

 

My text messages from buddies tell me I’m about to be very disappointed.

[mkroll12345]

Turned it off with 5 minutes to go, if this is how they're gonna play no point in getting angry, it will be better with walker back but man this sucked

[cornfed24-7]

The 1st half was bad, but St. Johns played down to our level. 

 

The 2nd half made my eyes bleed, but St. Johns realized who they were playing.

[busticket]

It’s normal for the home team to make a second half run.  I was prepared for that.

 

I didn’t expect it to last 20 minutes…

[HuskerBB]

Disappointed but not as disappointed as most of you.   We held off the pressure for awhile but ultimately it overwhelmed us.   Real problem is that our bigs play incredibly soft St John's figured that out and we had no answer.    Getting Walker will make a big difference with that part - but Wilhelm just seems lost at this level - and Keita has just as clearly not adjusted to D1 yet at a minimum.   

 

Did not expect to win this game and was really surprised to be ahead at half - particularly as poorly as we shot the ball (I know St Johns shot it worse in the first half).  But we needed a quicker whistle to take them out of their pressure game and give us a chance to keep our composure - and the opposite happened especially in the 2nd half.   

 

I do like that this team plays hard on D - even when things are going poorly and I still think they are much more fun to watch than what we saw the last couple years even if they are not as skilled in some ways as those teams.

 

 

[millerhusker]

Curbelo and that St. John's team are going to get humbled in a big way the first time they play a team with a good backcourt. They aren't going to be able to stop anybody in the Big East. Disappointed in the way Hoiberg decided to play this game. St. John's tries to speed you up, so we tried to slow it down and make it a halfcourt game. Thing is, I think we'd have been better off by taking what St. John's gives you. Their guards couldn't keep Sam in front of them the handful of times he decided to just go. Once he got them on his hip, they couldn't get back in front and he made good transition decisions in those situations that led to points. Almost all of his and Bandoumel's turnovers came in the halfcourt. I think Sam will figure out which passes he can and cannot make at this level and improve. Bandoumel, however, is not a natural ball handler at all. Ball gets away from his body any time he takes more than two dribbles. 

A very average Big East center made our posts look like children. Going to be a big issue until Walker comes back. And a big issue in the future unless we get a transfer or two. 

I'm afraid CJ is going to win us (or keep us in) a few games when he's hot, and be a non-factor in all the others.

Still looking forward to watching this team progress this year. 

Edited November 18, 2022 by millerhusker

[Dead Dog Alley]

Outside of that stretch where they outscored us 58-23, we were right in it.

[basketballjones]

Dare I say I was…….. encouraged… by that game?

 

 I think St John’s has a shot at being good. Mike Anderson is probably one of the most underrated coaches out there, and they’re one of the most physical teams I’ve seen play the game in a while. 

[hhcscott]

If I were HCFH, after the first 2-3 minutes, I put the four most solid guys on the floor and have Sam run Curbelo and Posh off of 4 tooth rattling  screens every time up the floor. I agree with a poster on the game thread, when a team plays that style the refs just seem to shrug and "let them play(cheat)"

[Handy Johnson]

ALL of my worst fears regarding this years squad were exposed tonight in Spades  

[hhcscott]

If Curbelo only was as good as he knows he is. 

[Crush78]

A decent team would've been up 15+ @ half with how terrible St. Johns played. A tourney team would've been up 25+.

[busticket]

I am glad we do not play another team that plays this style.  We aren’t built for it.

 

Not exactly sure what we are built for, but it definitely is not that.

[huskerbaseball13]

Utah is down 13-6 right now to Sam Houston. If Smith has a rough season at Utah does anybody think he would be dumb enough to take this job?

 

 

[OmahaHusker]

3 minutes ago, huskerbaseball13 said:

Utah is down 13-6 right now to Sam Houston. If Smith has a rough season at Utah does anybody think he would be dumb enough to take this job?

 

 

Would be awesome. I have a feeling there’s gonna be some big name teams going against us for coaches this off-season, tho. Syracuse and Georgetown are two of them. 

[cornfed24-7]

3 minutes ago, OmahaHusker said:

Would be awesome. I have a feeling there’s gonna be some big name teams going against us for coaches this off-season, tho. Syracuse and Georgetown are two of them. 

And this seems to be where coaching careers go to die.

[Dead Dog Alley]

37 minutes ago, hhcscott said:

If Curbelo only was as good as he knows he is. 

 

I never plan on watching Curbelo play again; and my life is already better.

[OmahaHusker]

16 minutes ago, cornfed24-7 said:

And this seems to be where coaching careers go to die.

Well ya that doesn’t help 

[Dead Dog Alley]

14 minutes ago, cornfed24-7 said:

And this seems to be where coaching careers go to die.

 

 

It puts you on the fast track to get the Merchant Marine Academy head coaching job - how could anyone turn it down.

 

[Navin R. Johnson]

I know St Johns missed shots but there were possessions where our defense was outstanding.  We rotated well, took charges and played with intensity.  In the second half we were man handled.  They were physical, aggressive on the boards and took us out of our game.  Their defense got their offense going which didn't allow our defense to guard a slow half court game.  

[HB]

1 hour ago, basketballjones said:

Dare I say I was…….. encouraged… by that game?

 

 I think St John’s has a shot at being good. Mike Anderson is probably one of the most underrated coaches out there, and they’re one of the most physical teams I’ve seen play the game in a while. 

U gotta be kidding me.   Most of our players can’t shoot or dribble.  We can’t shoot free throws.  We gave up 21 offensive rebounds.  No handles.  Offensive “scheme” still involves lots of one on one, dribbling, and piss poor ball movement.  Trev should make Fred hide in a dark office and watch film of Creighton.  It’s called ball movement.  As in, have some.   This can’t end soon enough.