2021-2022 expectations

[basketballjones]

13 hours ago, LK1 said:

 in-game dunker at 6'1".

You have the clip of that? Couldn't find that anywhere. 

[B-town hoopsfan]

2 hours ago, LK1 said:

Keisei is purely a 3pt specialist.  He might be a worse player than Kobe but more effective for Fred's system, even as a decoy that stretches the defense. 

Why’s he necessarily worse? Kobe was a complete liability at the end of the year on defense and doesn’t create for anyone else on offense. He was in there to shoot threes and takes heat check mid range jumpers.  I will say when he’s on he can cook, which is why I’m fine with him coming back but hope that Thor moves on. Wont be minutes or a necessarily a role for Thor if we are going be a competitive team next year IMO

[Nighthawk]

1 hour ago, basketballjones said:

You have the clip of that? Couldn't find that anywhere. 

This is all I could find. 

 

[basketballjones]

31 minutes ago, Nighthawk said:

This is all I could find. 

 

Hey. A dunk's a dunk. 

[HuskerFever]

45 minutes ago, basketballjones said:

Hey. A dunk's a dunk. 

 

Correction: a made dunk is a made dunk. We'll have to improve on our dunking shooting percentage next season.

Edited March 30, 2021 by HuskerFever

[cornfed24-7]

1 hour ago, HuskerFever said:

 

Correction: a made dunk is a made dunk. We'll have to improve on our dunking shooting percentage next season.

But isn't it assumed if ones says "dunk" the basket has been made? Like I can't go around saying I can dunk the ball knowing damn well I can't even jump high enough to be stuffed by the rim. 

[HuskerFever]

10 minutes ago, cornfed24-7 said:

2 hours ago, HuskerFever said:

 

Correction: a made dunk is a made dunk. We'll have to improve on our dunking shooting percentage next season.

But isn't it assumed if ones says "dunk" the basket has been made? Like I can't go around saying I can dunk the ball knowing damn well I can't even jump high enough to be stuffed by the rim. 

 

Exhibit A (0:07): missed dunk

Exhibit B (0:17): made dunk

 

That's dunking at a 0.500 clip.

 

(Don't mind the student announcers.)

 

 

[cornfed24-7]

47 minutes ago, HuskerFever said:

 

Exhibit A (0:07): missed dunk

Exhibit B (0:17): made dunk

 

That's dunking at a 0.500 clip.

 

(Don't mind the student announcers.)

 

 

Ahh. My brain was only letting me think of it as a verb.

[Fullbacksympathy]

7 hours ago, basketballjones said:

Hey. A dunk's a dunk. 

That ain’t bad for 6’1”.  

[jayschool]

Here's a great story from Sports Illustrated a few years back about a 42-year-old man, 6-feet-1 and with small hands, taking on the challenge to dunk on a regulation rim.

[basketballjones]

But to the OP of the post... My expectations are to be in NCAA tournament discussion. And honestly I'd be very disappointed to not make it. B1G loses plenty via graduation/transfer. We return enough. 

[Tallbaby21]

We might actually improve by 20% but our record could improve by 40% because of the unsettled nature of the bottom of the conference. 

[aphilso1]

9 minutes ago, Tallbaby21 said:

We might actually improve by 20% but our record could improve by 40% because of the unsettled nature of the bottom of the conference. 

 

Kind of the flipside of this year.  We knew going into the year that the conference would be stacked, and that we could be a significantly better team but with no improvement to record.  

[49r]

I expect to be pissed off at the fans/posters who will inevitably build this team up to be something it's not capable of being in the offseason and who eventually turn into whiny crybabies during the season when the team fails to live up to their unrealistic expectations during the course of the season.

 

That's what my expectations are for the 2021-22 season.

[basketballjones]

1 hour ago, jayschool said:

Here's a great story from Sports Illustrated a few years back about a 42-year-old man, 6-feet-1 and with small hands, taking on the challenge to dunk on a regulation rim.

I just got chills reading that article. Thank you for posting. 

[Silverbacked1]

1 hour ago, 49r said:

I expect to be pissed off at the fans/posters who will inevitably build this team up to be something it's not capable of being in the offseason and who eventually turn into whiny crybabies during the season when the team fails to live up to their unrealistic expectations during the course of the season.

 

That's what my expectations are for the 2021-22 season.

 

What I have never seen that on here ever...

[basketballjones]

1 hour ago, aphilso1 said:

 

Kind of the flipside of this year.  We knew going into the year that the conference would be stacked, and that we could be a significantly better team but with no improvement to record.  

It is always funny to reevaluate how you feel at the end of the season - compared what your expectations were at the beginning of the season. The consensus on this board was exactly what you said - record might not even budge but we'll be excited about the improvements. That pretty much happened. AND HERE I AM, ABOUT READY TO JUMP OF A BRIDGE!!!

[aphilso1]

43 minutes ago, basketballjones said:

It is always funny to reevaluate how you feel at the end of the season - compared what your expectations were at the beginning of the season. The consensus on this board was exactly what you said - record might not even budge but we'll be excited about the improvements. That pretty much happened. AND HERE I AM, ABOUT READY TO JUMP OF A BRIDGE!!!

 

I think I've been pretty consistent in my expectations and analysis of the season.  That I would consider it progress, but only if we actually returned a fair amount of key pieces for next year.  It does us no good to have a historically bad record as we rebuild if the rebuild starts over every single season. 

 

Thus far I do think we are winning the offseason because:

1. We haven't lost any significant contributors other than Teddy (who technically was an in-season loss),

2. We're bringing Kobe back for an unexpected extra year,

3. None of our recruits have asked out of their NLI, and

4. We added what appears to be a great transfer fit in CJ. 

 

My thoughts may change slightly if Banton decides to move on and we are again replacing multiple starters who had eligibility remaining.  But thus far I like the combination of players returning and new blood.

Edited March 31, 2021 by aphilso1

[Cazzie22]

Improved play with less silly, sloppy turnovers would be a start.  Some consistency in effort and performance would be expected.  Knocking down 3’s at a higher level since we take so many.  If we can accomplish that then a middle of the pack finish might be attainable.  

 

On another note, it appears that the teams in the Final Four do not double team every possession. It seems they would give up a contested two but not uncontested threes.  Am I off base??

[Norm Peterson]

At the start of the juco season, you could be forgiven for having doubts about Keisei. But since about the 6th or 7th game, he's been impressively efficient. It makes you go from thinking he'll ride pine and maybe doesn't belong at this level to wondering if maybe he can contribute and contribute a lot.

 

My hangup on Keisei is Trevor Lakes and Jervay Green. Trevor was this 47% 3-pt shooter who couldn't see the floor on a team that desperately needed a couple of shooters. What he did a level or two below did not appear to translate. Similarly, Jervay, who was one of the top 5 juco recruits in the country, simply couldn't get it done at the next level.

 

Is Keisei's high 3-pt% a function of the closer arc in juco ball? Lower caliber of defense? That probably has something to do with it. Will his game translate? That's kind of the question nobody has an answer to yet.

 

I'll tell ya, if he's quick and athletic enough to play defense, his shooting could punch his ticket to playing time. He has a really good platform as a shooter: he has a very compact and repeatable shot; he gets good elevation on his jump; he has a very quick release; and he shoots well off the bounce going either left or right, all of which will  allow him to get shots off without needing a ton of space.

 

He could fall flat on his face like Jervay. Or he could be sneaky good. Only time will tell. But if "sneaky good" ends up being what we get, it'll have a very favorable impact on the W/L numbers.

[49r]

@Norm Peterson I believe they use the same 3 point line in JUCO as in NCAA now.  But even still it doesn't matter much, it looks like Keisei typically likes to jack it up from NBA distance anyway.  (and he's most likely been shooing from the FIBA line his whole life which I believe is what the NCAA uses now)

 

Still...count me firmly among the "believe it when I see it" camp on him.  Like you mentioned earlier Lakes and Green and Kavas should all be cautionary tales about lower division guys not being able to get their shots off in the Big Ten anywhere near as easy as they could before.

[Norm Peterson]

On 3/29/2021 at 12:32 PM, hhcmatt said:

https://barttorvik.com/rostercast.php?run=1&team=Nebraska&player=

 

I can't get this thing to tell me what our forecast would be if we dropped Shamiel and added Devin Askew.

 

Maybe Torvik's computer is just laughing at me for asking the question. Like, seriously? You think you guys have a shot? Please.

[hhcmatt]

31 minutes ago, Norm Peterson said:

I can't get this thing to tell me what our forecast would be if we dropped Shamiel and added Devin Askew.

 

Thought it would be a bigger impact

[Dean Smith]

19 minutes ago, hhcmatt said:

 

Thought it would be a bigger impact

 

[Norm Peterson]

I think we'll be a better team when Lat is our 4th option from 3-point range rather than our best option. I'm OK with him having a green light. But he'll get better looks (and have more opportunity to get his feet set) if we catch other teams looking because they're having to guard 3 other shooters tight.